Machineuzi.5604 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 They replaced Vampiric Rituals and made the cooldown reduction of wells baseline, but only a day after reverted the well cooldown reduction in competitive modes. Wtf Anet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dceptaconroy.7928 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Have you got a bun?Yeah!Here have a sausage.Hey, I'm taking back my sausage and your bun.But you know, keep the napkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machineuzi.5604 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 They really have no idea what they are doing do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonbdj.4021 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 It is unbelievable, how they picked an area within nerco that wasn't a major problem and turn it into trash. Not worth the trashy trait we got out of this as that only works in WvW blob lol.Completely trashed nerco for me and we have 3 months of it.I had hopes and even defended but this just killed what is left.I've really lost interest putting anymore time into this, I've been playing this since early start lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfyrik.2017 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I mean, was VampRit really OP cheese in WvW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emapudapus.1307 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 @wolfyrik.2017 said:I mean, was VampRit really OP cheese in WvW?even if it was, thats why seperate balance between gamemode exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpsssss.7530 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 @wolfyrik.2017 said:I mean, was VampRit really OP cheese in WvW?No openly available WvW build is using more than one Well (corruption), and none of them used the Vampiric Rituals over the other two traits... It was used very niche-ly. The protection was meh in blobs because Scourge used to exist. The sustain gained from the trait was peanuts compared to the nonsense that a guard/FB can do... It wasn't a very strong trait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 @wolfyrik.2017 said:I mean, was VampRit really OP cheese in WvW?Nope, It was probably changed to Buff Necros with Well CD reduction as baseline and add in their eyes a more supportive trait in PvE, perhaps in next balance patch they will update it or make it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 @Mini Crinny.6190 said:@wolfyrik.2017 said:I mean, was VampRit really OP cheese in WvW?Nope, It was probably changed to Buff Necros with Well CD reduction as baseline and add in their eyes a more supportive trait in PvE, perhaps in next balance patch they will update it or make it betterIt was changed for the same reason the signet trait was shifted from gm to master tier. Traits that do only buff one utility skill category should not be gm traits, because gm traits are meant to have a huge impact on your build and limiting their effect to only a handful of utility skills, limits gm trait choices for everyone who does not want to improve or even use that skill category.In contrast to the playerbase anet might be pretty happy now. Reasons:buffed the impact of wells in PvE and increased the reaper dpsreworked well of darkness to a very pick worthy well for all game modesadded a new gm trait that is not in the state, where it should be, but can potentially be buffedAnd indeed there is only one patch specific issue I have at this point: blood bank is currently trash. Everything else is just my usual incomprehension about how insufficient the individual balance patches are executed. This is not the worst patch necro has ever seen, but it leaves necro behind in a work in progress state, which is bad for everyone who wants to play the game now and not in a few months, when they fixed blood bank and the now clearly underpowered scourge shades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman.6349 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 @KrHome.1920 said:@Mini Crinny.6190 said:@wolfyrik.2017 said:I mean, was VampRit really OP cheese in WvW?Nope, It was probably changed to Buff Necros with Well CD reduction as baseline and add in their eyes a more supportive trait in PvE, perhaps in next balance patch they will update it or make it betterIt was changed for the same reason the signet trait was shifted from gm to master tier. Traits that do only buff one utility skill category should not be gm traits, because gm traits are meant to have a huge impact on your build and limiting their effect to only a handful of utility skills, limits gm trait choices for everyone who does not want to improve or even use that skill category.In contrast to the playerbase anet might be pretty happy now. Reasons:buffed the impact of wells in PvE and increased the reaper dpsreworked well of darkness to a very pick worthy well for all game modesadded a new gm trait that is not in the state, where it should be, but can potentially be buffedAnd indeed there is only one patch specific issue I have at this point: blood bank is currently trash. Everything else is just my usual incomprehension about how insufficient the individual balance patches are executed. This is not the worst patch necro has ever seen, but it leaves necro behind in a work in progress state, which is bad for everyone who wants to play the game now and not in a few months, when they fixed blood bank and the now clearly underpowered scourge shades.SOS was pretty good before though. They changed it because they wanted to nerf signets. The trait would surely not be worth the pick afterward. The nerfed signets and nerfed the SOS trait a ton and then moved it down. It was a very solid pick as it was. SOS would have been better off in the BM line since a long time ago really. Necro received so many nerfs out of this last patch that it's ridiculous.They should have moved SoS trait to the Blood Magic line where VampRitswas and moved VR to the Spite line, removed the life steal and change the name a bit. If they wanted to make it grandmaster tier they could add fury or quickness or whatever effect to it. Otherwise, I'd prefer they move it to master tier to replace Awaken the Pain. Awaken the Pain would be moved to the Grandmaster slot with the added effect 'Vulnerability is also 50% more effective' like Targeted Destruction(ie. 1.5% per stack;a 12.5% increase at max stacks).This would have been much simpler and slightly nerfed what they wanted to nerf as well as a solid buff to what they wanted buffed ALL WITHOUT RUINING ANYTHING. Core Necro would take a good shave to sustain (especially to shroud;the shroud decay rate nerf wouldn't be needed) while leaving the more selfish damage/sustain aspect for signets. Reaper would receive a good damage buff for PvE/PvP while losing a tiny bit of sustain while also wrangling wells in a bit in WvW (Spite line;less aoe spam). This would have been a solid way to handle the situation w/o killing any builds and even improving some build synergy options. *Revert all changes to Signets. They're terrible changes and now the trait is a GM again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machineuzi.5604 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 They nerfed signet of locust lul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonbdj.4021 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Puplic - Core nerco is too tankish and rewards people for low effect.Anet - Randomly trashes the full set of signet and removes the decent mechanics options from wells (that forces nercos to take blood line for the benefits which reduce their damage output) with shorter cooldown knowing full well it will caurse issues in WvW with scourge returning its original mechanic. Oh we got a trashy trait which only works in WvW (To replace a trait that had it uses in both modes Pve and PVP).Anet - Moments after they completely trashes wells and deletes scourge ( scourge sucks in PvE already ).Anet - Living story, why not trash nerco even more along with it instead of looking into our mistake on trashing part of nerco that didnt need touching at the first place. No one in PvP or WvW is complaining about it but completely ignores the other issues that people are complaining about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterman.1530 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 @"Pregnantman.8259" said:They nerfed signet of locust lulYeah. Cause that 1500 heal per foe struck + 645 per boon removed - IF IT WASN"T BLOCKED - was so OP What a stupid "nerf". By the way, did ANYONE run Signet of the Locust in WvW? I certainly never did except as a larf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpsssss.7530 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 @misterman.1530 said:@"Pregnantman.8259" said:They nerfed signet of locust lulYeah. Cause that 1500 heal per foe struck + 645 per boon removed - IF IT WASN"T BLOCKED - was so OP What a stupid "nerf". By the way, did ANYONE run Signet of the Locust in WvW? I certainly never did except as a larf.Its mainly used for roamers/havoc groups who aren't running blood magic, or the 25% speed runes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machineuzi.5604 Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 @misterman.1530 said:@"Pregnantman.8259" said:They nerfed signet of locust lulYeah. Cause that 1500 heal per foe struck + 645 per boon removed - IF IT WASN"T BLOCKED - was so OP What a stupid "nerf". By the way, did ANYONE run Signet of the Locust in WvW? I certainly never did except as a larf.Yeah the heal was potentially bonkers, but what gets me is first buffing the skill and then nerfing it on a LS patch. Its kinda similar to what they did with wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elanesse.4310 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Necro was my main but after I all this nerfs I switched to Guardian again. Rip necro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonbdj.4021 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 @Elanesse.4310 said:Necro was my main but after I all this nerfs I switched to Guardian again. Rip necro.Anet loves guardians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniMe.1960 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 @Jasonbdj.4021 said:@Elanesse.4310 said:Necro was my main but after I all this nerfs I switched to Guardian again. Rip necro.Anet loves guardians. Anet loves doing bad things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galmac.4680 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 What is love? [cowerAndRun] :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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