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@Ziggityzog.7389 said:Sorry unless it's tdm 2v2 3v3 5v5 or a better mode then circlequest. ESL will never happen.

Circlequest where speed is required more then skill killed ESL in the past.

Stuck on platinum 1 be like

Na I quit ranked after season 6 but with 2v2 and 3v3 I made top 100 each season of the 2 2v2 and 1 3v3 seasons :)

Whoa so skilled

To be real no one really wants to play Ranked conquest seriously, and those who do normally play in ATs. Ranked Conquest is a big meme, division isn't a determining factor of skill anymore and the game mode is filled with bots and the matchmaking giving you botched unequal matches, when you get past the bot filter. :Kekw:

Wvw player

I mean you're not wrong, I played pretty much every facet of the game, and made it to the top 250 solo queue in the older seasons when there were still a lot of decent players around too. :+1: .

And u didnt reach it again i suppose xdd

Well put it like this, I could've reached it again if I didn't quit Spvp conquest, because of top end's shenanigans of match manipulation and win trading, making me not want to participate anymore. You know the same shady gaming stuff they've been doing since the 1st Spvp season. but rest assured when i did participate I'd always reach platinum(1650) or if we go by the early seasons, Legendary, except for the very 1st season, i only reached ruby because I joined late.

How u knoq thw state of pvp or why u comment if u dont play spvp? Xd also is stupid af to u to complain about wintraders cuz u r not affected as gold plat1 player , if u cant climb is not cuz WiNtraDERS ,

How do I know the state of pvp, I mean what are you expecting to change when you don't support a game mode for how long, and patches come out at a snail's pace? Also the fact there are people who are on my friends list who are pretty much PVE heroes getting into top slots? I and did briefly comeback for 2v2s and when they were gone, that's when i stopped playing again. :Kekw: I think you misunderstand, I didn't quit mid season, I quit after the season ended, then never played conquest again.Win trading and match manipulation, mainstream popped up along with the show stopping $400 dollar game mode meme. That alone made sure for me not to touch conquest again, not so much that I couldn't climb :lol: The only way to progress further above top 100 was playing with a duo queue partner, which i didn't so which you can guess.

@Tharan.9085While it's true the first 4 seasons were grinding seasons, I think there's some merit in reaching Legendary, solo queue, in a system that promoted premades vs pugs. Since I usually ran into PvP guilds like DOLO, and Mist Initiative, etc, and then the usual players you'd expect towards the top end. I participated until after S6 , was going to try for Ruthless Legend in S7 then all the shady ugliness started presenting itself, and that's where it stopped. so take that as you will. I used to always run into matches with players like moobs, naru, vallun, nos, whisperingz, kratos, PaulXD, Rarnark, and more in ranked.

Thats not true , u could reach over top10p but the problem is u have to be actually a top player , ofc duoqing is sometimes a advantague but there shouldnt be any problem finding friends on a social based game .

Again wintraders shouldnt be a problem to someone who is not a top player aiming for top1 ,the fact u left pvp cuz there r lot of wintraders sounds like a bad excusr for i get frustraded cuz cant climb over top .

If u left the game mode cuz u find it boring or u dont like it i totally respect it but dont say stupid stuff like hehe wintraders made my rating go down ;( cuz thats totally false

There is support to pvp , meta had change a lot and build variety too , the problem is they dont do fast fixes to totally stupid thinfs like bugs

:lol: ofc it's true, that why a lot of the times top end players I ran into were always with a duo of another good or known player, because you cut a player that would potentially harm your chances of winning with one that boosts it. Which again i said i didn't bother grabbing a duo and capped near the top 100. If you didn't know when two top players get together, they get far together, or you can ask any of the top players made it to the top 25 without duo queuing.

I never said wintrading made my rating go down did I? Nice assumption? I'll put in the work to reach where I want to be, and if I don't reach it i'd be my own failing and it'll be a means to improve, is how i look at it when i was playing before. Me quitting conquest was more so because Anet allows such things to exist in a competative environment, and complete disregard for competative integrity, and what do you know it it still holds true even after I quit conquest on that note and looks like things only gotten much more prevalent. :kekw:

Right, there's support, it's why the population keeps falling lower and lower to a crawl, and there's thread after thread about bots in the game, and little white lies about faster balance patching, but not changing the snail's pace at all. But you know you're also right, I don't know why I'm even posting things like this when I've got better things to do with my time. I'll stick to meme-ing. :heart:

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@Ziggityzog.7389 said:Sorry unless it's tdm 2v2 3v3 5v5 or a better mode then circlequest. ESL will never happen.

Circlequest where speed is required more then skill killed ESL in the past.

Stuck on platinum 1 be like

Na I quit ranked after season 6 but with 2v2 and 3v3 I made top 100 each season of the 2 2v2 and 1 3v3 seasons :)

Whoa so skilled

To be real no one really wants to play Ranked conquest seriously, and those who do normally play in ATs. Ranked Conquest is a big meme, division isn't a determining factor of skill anymore and the game mode is filled with bots and the matchmaking giving you botched unequal matches, when you get past the bot filter. :Kekw:

Wvw player

I mean you're not wrong, I played pretty much every facet of the game, and made it to the top 250 solo queue in the older seasons when there were still a lot of decent players around too. :+1: .

And u didnt reach it again i suppose xdd

Well put it like this, I could've reached it again if I didn't quit Spvp conquest, because of top end's shenanigans of match manipulation and win trading, making me not want to participate anymore. You know the same shady gaming stuff they've been doing since the 1st Spvp season. but rest assured when i did participate I'd always reach platinum(1650) or if we go by the early seasons, Legendary, except for the very 1st season, i only reached ruby because I joined late.

How u knoq thw state of pvp or why u comment if u dont play spvp? Xd also is stupid af to u to complain about wintraders cuz u r not affected as gold plat1 player , if u cant climb is not cuz WiNtraDERS ,

How do I know the state of pvp, I mean what are you expecting to change when you don't support a game mode for how long, and patches come out at a snail's pace? Also the fact there are people who are on my friends list who are pretty much PVE heroes getting into top slots? I and did briefly comeback for 2v2s and when they were gone, that's when i stopped playing again. :Kekw: I think you misunderstand, I didn't quit mid season, I quit after the season ended, then never played conquest again.Win trading and match manipulation, mainstream popped up along with the show stopping $400 dollar game mode meme. That alone made sure for me not to touch conquest again, not so much that I couldn't climb :lol: The only way to progress further above top 100 was playing with a duo queue partner, which i didn't so which you can guess.

@Tharan.9085While it's true the first 4 seasons were grinding seasons, I think there's some merit in reaching Legendary, solo queue, in a system that promoted premades vs pugs. Since I usually ran into PvP guilds like DOLO, and Mist Initiative, etc, and then the usual players you'd expect towards the top end. I participated until after S6 , was going to try for Ruthless Legend in S7 then all the shady ugliness started presenting itself, and that's where it stopped. so take that as you will. I used to always run into matches with players like moobs, naru, vallun, nos, whisperingz, kratos, PaulXD, Rarnark, and more in ranked.

Thats not true , u could reach over top10p but the problem is u have to be actually a top player , ofc duoqing is sometimes a advantague but there shouldnt be any problem finding friends on a social based game .

Again wintraders shouldnt be a problem to someone who is not a top player aiming for top1 ,the fact u left pvp cuz there r lot of wintraders sounds like a bad excusr for i get frustraded cuz cant climb over top .

If u left the game mode cuz u find it boring or u dont like it i totally respect it but dont say stupid stuff like hehe wintraders made my rating go down ;( cuz thats totally false

There is support to pvp , meta had change a lot and build variety too , the problem is they dont do fast fixes to totally stupid thinfs like bugs

:lol: ofc it's true, that why a lot of the times top end players I ran into were always with a duo of another good or known player, because you cut a player that would potentially harm your chances of winning with one that boosts it. Which again i said i didn't bother grabbing a duo and capped near the top 100. If you didn't know when two top players get together, they get far together, or you can ask any of the top players made it to the top 25 without duo queuing.

I never said wintrading made my rating go down did I? Nice assumption? I'll put in the work to reach where I want to be, and if I don't reach it i'd be my own failing and it'll be a means to improve, is how i look at it when i was playing before. Me quitting conquest was more so because Anet allows such things to exist in a competative environment, and complete disregard for competative integrity, and what do you know it it still holds true even after I quit conquest on that note and looks like things only gotten much more prevalent. :kekw:

Right, there's support, it's why the population keeps falling lower and lower to a crawl, and there's thread after thread about bots in the game, and little white lies about faster balance patching, but not changing the snail's pace at all. But you know you're also right, I don't know why I'm even posting things like this when I've got better things to do with my time. I'll stick to meme-ing. :heart:

Ofc duoqing helps i alredy said it . Climbing aboce top100 is totally possible but u have to be actually a decent player . I am not a top player and i can easily climb above top100 easily

Idk how is a reasonable reason to leave game mode something that doenst affect u on any way possible . There is literally wintrading in all competitive games but gw2 makes it specifically easier due to low population compared to big pvp games like lol . Prove someone is wintrading is actually pretty difficult and u cannt ban someone as a company due to mere speculations even when all community knows someone is wintrading . U need specific solid proves like ingame chats and ppl with bit IQ can avoid this kinda stuff pretty easy.

I ageee with bot problems but again this only affects to low rated population (doenst mean it shouldnt be fixed) if ur plat1 player u shouldnt get a bot on ur team

Again top100 isnt a barrier , u can easily cross over top as a relatively decent player , other stuff is a duo of not that good players getting busted by meta stuff out of prime time

But on the top of that who cares about the rating ? I mean if u get good queues and fun games as a competitive game. Saying u leave ganemode due anet passivity with something dont affect u sounds like a 7p years old complaining for the only purposr of blaming something

To end my reply say i hate ppl who complains without a constructipe point on something they not even play why would u that?

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@Xca.9721 said:didn´t gw2 esports fail due to bad balancing that didn´t get changed in ages?

No

@"Zok.4956" said:ESL was a success only from a marketing cost standpoint, could not attract enough new players and sponsors and died around the time Colin Johanson left the company.

^ This is the real reason why ESL stopped. Arenanet was never "kicked out" of the ESL like people seem to believe. They simply withdrew from the ESL when the commercial returns were no longer worth the money invested. Or so I've heard from a couple different reliable sources up to this point.

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@Ziggityzog.7389 said:Sorry unless it's tdm 2v2 3v3 5v5 or a better mode then circlequest. ESL will never happen.

Circlequest where speed is required more then skill killed ESL in the past.

Stuck on platinum 1 be like

Na I quit ranked after season 6 but with 2v2 and 3v3 I made top 100 each season of the 2 2v2 and 1 3v3 seasons :)

Whoa so skilled

To be real no one really wants to play Ranked conquest seriously, and those who do normally play in ATs. Ranked Conquest is a big meme, division isn't a determining factor of skill anymore and the game mode is filled with bots and the matchmaking giving you botched unequal matches, when you get past the bot filter. :Kekw:

Wvw player

I mean you're not wrong, I played pretty much every facet of the game, and made it to the top 250 solo queue in the older seasons when there were still a lot of decent players around too. :+1: .

And u didnt reach it again i suppose xdd

Well put it like this, I could've reached it again if I didn't quit Spvp conquest, because of top end's shenanigans of match manipulation and win trading, making me not want to participate anymore. You know the same shady gaming stuff they've been doing since the 1st Spvp season. but rest assured when i did participate I'd always reach platinum(1650) or if we go by the early seasons, Legendary, except for the very 1st season, i only reached ruby because I joined late.

How u knoq thw state of pvp or why u comment if u dont play spvp? Xd also is stupid af to u to complain about wintraders cuz u r not affected as gold plat1 player , if u cant climb is not cuz WiNtraDERS ,

How do I know the state of pvp, I mean what are you expecting to change when you don't support a game mode for how long, and patches come out at a snail's pace? Also the fact there are people who are on my friends list who are pretty much PVE heroes getting into top slots? I and did briefly comeback for 2v2s and when they were gone, that's when i stopped playing again. :Kekw: I think you misunderstand, I didn't quit mid season, I quit after the season ended, then never played conquest again.Win trading and match manipulation, mainstream popped up along with the show stopping $400 dollar game mode meme. That alone made sure for me not to touch conquest again, not so much that I couldn't climb :lol: The only way to progress further above top 100 was playing with a duo queue partner, which i didn't so which you can guess.

@Tharan.9085While it's true the first 4 seasons were grinding seasons, I think there's some merit in reaching Legendary, solo queue, in a system that promoted premades vs pugs. Since I usually ran into PvP guilds like DOLO, and Mist Initiative, etc, and then the usual players you'd expect towards the top end. I participated until after S6 , was going to try for Ruthless Legend in S7 then all the shady ugliness started presenting itself, and that's where it stopped. so take that as you will. I used to always run into matches with players like moobs, naru, vallun, nos, whisperingz, kratos, PaulXD, Rarnark, and more in ranked.

Thats not true , u could reach over top10p but the problem is u have to be actually a top player , ofc duoqing is sometimes a advantague but there shouldnt be any problem finding friends on a social based game .

Again wintraders shouldnt be a problem to someone who is not a top player aiming for top1 ,the fact u left pvp cuz there r lot of wintraders sounds like a bad excusr for i get frustraded cuz cant climb over top .

If u left the game mode cuz u find it boring or u dont like it i totally respect it but dont say stupid stuff like hehe wintraders made my rating go down ;( cuz thats totally false

There is support to pvp , meta had change a lot and build variety too , the problem is they dont do fast fixes to totally stupid thinfs like bugs

:lol: ofc it's true, that why a lot of the times top end players I ran into were always with a duo of another good or known player, because you cut a player that would potentially harm your chances of winning with one that boosts it. Which again i said i didn't bother grabbing a duo and capped near the top 100. If you didn't know when two top players get together, they get far together, or you can ask any of the top players made it to the top 25 without duo queuing.

I never said wintrading made my rating go down did I? Nice assumption? I'll put in the work to reach where I want to be, and if I don't reach it i'd be my own failing and it'll be a means to improve, is how i look at it when i was playing before. Me quitting conquest was more so because Anet allows such things to exist in a competative environment, and complete disregard for competative integrity, and what do you know it it still holds true even after I quit conquest on that note and looks like things only gotten much more prevalent. :kekw:

Right, there's support, it's why the population keeps falling lower and lower to a crawl, and there's thread after thread about bots in the game, and little white lies about faster balance patching, but not changing the snail's pace at all. But you know you're also right, I don't know why I'm even posting things like this when I've got better things to do with my time. I'll stick to meme-ing. :heart:

Ofc duoqing helps i alredy said it . Climbing aboce top100 is totally possible but u have to be actually a decent player . I am not a top player and i can easily climb above top100 easily

Idk how is a reasonable reason to leave game mode something that doenst affect u on any way possible . There is literally wintrading in all competitive games but gw2 makes it specifically easier due to low population compared to big pvp games like lol . Prove someone is wintrading is actually pretty difficult and u cannt ban someone as a company due to mere speculations even when all community knows someone is wintrading . U need specific solid proves like ingame chats and ppl with bit IQ can avoid this kinda stuff pretty easy.

I ageee with bot problems but again this only affects to low rated population (doenst mean it shouldnt be fixed) if ur plat1 player u shouldnt get a bot on ur team

Again top100 isnt a barrier , u can easily cross over top as a relatively decent player , other stuff is a duo of not that good players getting busted by meta stuff out of prime time

But on the top of that who cares about the rating ? I mean if u get good queues and fun games as a competitive game. Saying u leave ganemode due anet passivity with something dont affect u sounds like a 7p years old complaining for the only purposr of blaming something

To end my reply say i hate ppl who complains without a constructipe point on something they not even play why would u that?

I'm not talking about current day, I was referencing the time I played ranked S1-S6 and actually played ranked with interest in the game mode, I'm pretty sure it's easy to make it to the top end nowadays compared to back then because no one cares about ranked now, and why most of the good and even long time players say rating doesn't matter anymore, because it's not a representation of skill. The bar for player quality was much higher back then, than it is today, a example of this was 16xx+rating was the bar you had to pass to even get up into top 250,, compared to today where 1400 is the bar you need to breach it. That's why the meme of top end was you avoid the competition to stay competative, and you had top players dodging each other's queue until it said on your friend's list, they're in a match. :omegalul:

Quitting the game mode because the people who work on the game support people that want to game the system or pull shady practices? Yeah, no, competative integrity out the window, and offenders allowed to meme the corpse of spvp as much as they want, where if it were any other pvp game there'd be some harsh punishments to discourage such things, it was just a big sign that says Anet doesn't care about the game mode.. You're right you need proof to show people are trying to wintrade, and match manipulate, seen some of those threads with screenshotsof people trying to bribe the others to throw the game in exchange for gold bringing it to light . Perhaps they still have threads in Anet's old forums, archived, if you can even still access them. :+1:

If that's what you care about, good queues and just having fun matches, all the more power to you, and keep on doing what you're doing. I left the game mode about 3 years ago, but I haven't stopped playing the game after. if you're going to at least say i sound like a 7 year, you might want to check yourself on that front too before trying to toss out that sort of shade. I might return though if they ever decide to implement permanent 2v2/3v3 queues, instead of a mini seasons gimmick.

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@Lucentfir.7430 said:I left the game mode about 3 years ago, [...] I might return though if they ever decide to implement permanent 2v2/3v3 queues, instead of a mini seasons gimmick.

Goodbye @Lucentfir.7430 - I believe nobody will miss you, because you played PvP with randoms anyway.

That's a really late goodbye you know. That's fine and dandy, because you're absolutely right, expecting anything but is foolish. Though it's fun to watch from the sidelines people complaining about population always falling, player quality dropping and everything else that comes to the sub forum. Just be sure to keep having fun alright? :heart:

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