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I do not care about pvp. Unfortunately, Anet believe they can force PvEers to care about pvp, so they gate pve rewards behind pvp with no alternative to earn them. But in reality, the only thing this forces me to want to do, is uninstall the game, and play an actual enjoyable RPG. So good job Anet. This has forced me to become toxic, and join WvW squads just to tag objectives, then basically go afk, not because I'm actually toxic, but because I have literally zero clue what I'm doing to begin with, and jut want to get my rewards and scurry back to carebear land....Sorry.

Ok lite trolling aside, I have been trying to find a squad or zerg for hours(days) and there is just no squads or tags up....ever. It's becoming a huge waste of time. I don't know the prime times for this gamemode. I (obviously) don't have the gear/skill/experience/willpower to just start roaming solo, so that is out of the question.Is there a reliable time or day I can come to WvW and actually find zergs doing stuff???? I just want to farm some pips/reward tracks, and head out, seriously.

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Talk to people on your server, ask if there is a discord or something for it. They may put out alerts and schedules when groups are up.

Roaming is fun though. I've never joined with a organised zerg group (the fps drops from big fights are not fun) I go about taking camps and sentries and occasionally tag on with groups when they attack larger objectives. You don't lose anything if you get killed, there is nothing to be afraid of even if you get ganked.

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@ollbirtan.2915 said:Try roaming. You might actually learn something new. ;)

That's the problem, I don't actually want to learn anything new, I just want to farm some pips (because I have to) and go back to PvE :pLearning to roam will require a huge amount of research, preparing new gear, and actually being good enough to kill people and take objectives. That is a massive time (and gold) investment, All for something that I get no enjoyment from, and will only do for a few hours. That's why its not really a realistic option. If I was actually invested in PvP, then sure. But Running with a zerg for a few hours will be all that I need, which Is why I ask when is the best time to zerg.

Its not a matter of being scared or intimidated, I do not wish to learn PvP. It's not personal or anything, Its just not entertaining for me. I Play GW2 for the PvE mmorpg and it's simple as that. I am not a PvP gamer.

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@"Kylden Ar.3724" said:You know you don't NEED Legendary anything, right? They have the same stats as Ascended, that you can make fully in PvE.

Well, I never said I was farming a legendary, And I am not here to argue about what I "need" or not. Not going down that rabbit hole.I simply wanted to ask the WvW players, when is the best time/day to find zergs for WvW or how I can find one easier.

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The best time to find zergs in WvW is around 8 p.m. for your region's dominant timezone (EST for NA). Except on Friday because that's reset night, so everything will either be weird dregs or queued into oblivion.

You are best off going to either your "home" Borderlands (the one matching your server) or Eternal Battlegrounds, depending on the exact load. One you're in any WvW map (or Armistice Bastion) you can see cross-map /team chat and use that to get a sense of what's going on where (depending on your home server, you may have to mute a small handful of chatterbox edgelords first).

@"MMOStein.3872" said:I do not care about pvp. Unfortunately, Anet believe they can force PvEers to care about pvp, so they gate pve rewards behind pvp with no alternative to earn them.

All those things built with Gift of Battle / Gift of Glory aren't "PvE rewards."

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@MMOStein.3872 said:

@ollbirtan.2915 said:Try roaming. You might actually learn something new. ;)

That's the problem, I don't actually want to learn anything new, I just want to farm some pips (because I
have to
) and go back to PvE :pLearning to roam will require a huge amount of research, preparing new gear, and actually being good enough to kill people and take objectives. That is a massive time (and gold) investment, All for something that I get no enjoyment from, and will only do for a few hours. That's why its not really a realistic option. If I was actually invested in PvP, then sure. But Running with a zerg for a few hours will be all that I need, which Is why I ask when is the best time to zerg.

Its not a matter of being scared or intimidated,
I do not wish to learn PvP.
It's not personal or anything, Its just not entertaining for me. I Play GW2 for the PvE mmorpg and it's simple as that. I am not a PvP gamer.

actually you can play pretty pve in a wvw map as roamer. search for enemy camps, see if they're free of other players and if so attack the NPCs. flip flags, kill dolyaks, do HPs and veteran mobs (not when they're daily unless warg because the chance to meet someone on a daily is around 99%, just warg is in a safe spot for anyone except green). you're not useless and you won't meet players often.

if you only want reward tracks filled, do those pve tasks until T6, then afk for your pips and only move to keep T6 alive. do wvw dailies if they're soloable (camps, dolyaks, guards, veteran creature, land, manuments), those will give you 250-500 additional reward track points.

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To be honest, I understand the op's problem. Maybe some might remember when HoT came out. A WvW-player had to go to pve to unlock the specialisations. Back then, there was a lot of fun here at the forum.

Anyway, as much as we all like to have new players in WvW, I would not want to have the op on my server. He is not interested in WvW and not willing to invest time and effort in learning WvW. I consider the problem described as an issue for anet. They need to consider what to do with such players.

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@"Kylden Ar.3724" said:You know you don't NEED Legendary anything, right? They have the same stats as Ascended, that you can make
fully in PvE.

Well, I never said I was farming a legendary, And I am not here to argue about what I "need" or not. Not going down that rabbit hole.I simply wanted to ask the WvW players, when is the best time/day to find zergs for WvW or how I can find one easier.

If farming pips is what you want, then you don’t need a Zerg. But you came into this section of the forums with attitude and stated you didn’t want to ‘learn’

Good luck to you finding what you want.

Oh, eu has 27 servers and 15 host worlds, while NA has 24 servers and 12 host worlds.

Knowing where you are in that mess would allow people to like.. actually help you. But yeah.. attitude....

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I too think we have no Anet created commanders that Anet are fully responsible for, causing the gamemode to be dead. If only Anet didnt do this to their own gamemode. Anet is completely at fault here forcing players to not be able to play since there is no other way to create commanders. This needs to be patched so that commanders are available. Stupid Anet not supporting the gamemode with their inactivity. Good job Anet.

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@ollbirtan.2915 said:Try roaming. You might actually learn something new. ;)

That's the problem, I don't actually want to learn anything new, I just want to farm some pips (because I
have to
) and go back to PvE :pLearning to roam will require a huge amount of research, preparing new gear, and actually being good enough to kill people and take objectives. That is a massive time (and gold) investment, All for something that I get no enjoyment from, and will only do for a few hours. That's why its not really a realistic option. If I was actually invested in PvP, then sure. But Running with a zerg for a few hours will be all that I need, which Is why I ask when is the best time to zerg.

Its not a matter of being scared or intimidated,
I do not wish to learn PvP.
It's not personal or anything, Its just not entertaining for me. I Play GW2 for the PvE mmorpg and it's simple as that. I am not a PvP gamer.

I feel the same way about PvE and all the rewards locked behind it not being accessible to those of us who literally just want to WvW or PvP. So Ill concede and say sure, move gift of battle to raids as well so you can get it there or from strikes or some such thing. And in exchange they ADD EVERY SINGLE REWARD you can earn or build toward, in some fashion into WvW/PvP so that we never EVER have to mix again. And we can all stay in our lane, unless we desire to come out and play in the other modes.

Ill PvE but Im not nuts about guild wars 2's version of PvE; It's honestly kinda bleh half the time and stupid easy. To be fair thats just my subjective view based on my interactions with PvE in general.

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@"Strider Pj.2193" said:

If farming pips is what you want, then you don’t need a Zerg. But you came into this section of the forums with attitude and stated you didn’t want to ‘learn’

Good luck to you finding what you want.

Oh, eu has 27 servers and 15 host worlds, while NA has 24 servers and 12 host worlds.

Knowing where you are in that mess would allow people to like.. actually help you. But yeah.. attitude....

I don't have an attitude. U do. All my posts, have been nice and to the point. I have no idea where you getting this "attitude" stuff from. Stop trying to start drama. It ain't that serious.

@gloflop.3510 said:To be honest, I understand the op's problem. Maybe some might remember when HoT came out. A WvW-player had to go to pve to unlock the specialisations. Back then, there was a lot of fun here at the forum.

Anyway, as much as we all like to have new players in WvW, I would not want to have the op on my server. He is not interested in WvW and not willing to invest time and effort in learning WvW. I consider the problem described as an issue for anet. They need to consider what to do with such players.

This guy gets it. I don't want to be here, U don't want me to be here, and now everyone has to suffer. But apparently, this what Anet wants, so it will go down like this.

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actually you can play pretty pve in a wvw map as roamer. search for enemy camps, see if they're free of other players and if so attack the NPCs. flip flags, kill dolyaks, do HPs and veteran mobs (not when they're daily unless warg because the chance to meet someone on a daily is around 99%, just warg is in a safe spot for anyone except green). you're not useless and you won't meet players often.

if you only want reward tracks filled, do those pve tasks until T6, then afk for your pips and only move to keep T6 alive. do wvw dailies if they're soloable (camps, dolyaks, guards, veteran creature, land, manuments), those will give you 250-500 additional reward track points.

Never thought of roaming like that, I thought it was just running around trying to 1v6 everyone like those warrior montage videos. Maybe I will look more into trying that, maybe I can farm a lot of stuff like this, thanks for the tip!

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Tipp from a PVE'ler. I'm looking for the map that looks the least used. Turn camps and kill caravans and these guards until I am 195~. Throw in an booster and stand at a ruin where I have a good overview and take it again and again~. Alongside I do housework or watch videos.Not the most exciting, but you get it quickly if you want something special which is only available in the Wvw.It also helps to make the dailys. Everything that has nothing to do with towers and castles is quite easy.When you turn a camp you will most likely find people who help.

I'm currently only going in there with my PVE armor because I don't want to spend gold for WVW yet. If I get killed it is just like that. Just keep going until its done.(or port if you see someone to annoy or amuse them)

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@"MMOStein.3872" said:

Never thought of roaming like that, I thought it was just running around trying to 1v6 everyone like those warrior montage videos. Maybe I will look more into trying that, maybe I can farm a lot of stuff like this, thanks for the tip!

^ This made me laugh so much my milk squirted out of my nose... I now have a soggy nose. FeelsBadMan

Anyway, more serious note - if you want help as someone else has said, state what your 'main' playtime zone (EST, CET, GMT etc..) is and what server you're currently on. You'll find people will be a lot more helpful if they can actually help you... Also, "roaming montage videos" are once in a couple days fights that're hand picked from HOURS of roaming because news flash, roaming's not what people think it is or as exciting as those videos make it seem. If you don't want to spend gold on making gear to "roam" then don't, just run full Berserker or whatever it is you run in PvE, the only difference is you do less damage than in PvE so don't be shocked if a Guard doesn't fall over in 3 hits like it would in PvE.

Also, many things in WvW give you participation in varying levels - capture a Sentry or Ruin (Monument) is 5 minutes, Camps/Towers/Keeps/killing players 10 minutes, Guards and Dolyaks is 2 minutes (I might be wrong on the Dolyak one, feel free to correct me).

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@"Strider Pj.2193" said:

If farming pips is what you want, then you don’t need a Zerg. But you came into this section of the forums with attitude and stated you didn’t want to ‘learn’

Good luck to you finding what you want.

Oh, eu has 27 servers and 15 host worlds, while NA has 24 servers and 12 host worlds.

Knowing where you are in that mess would allow people to like.. actually help you. But yeah.. attitude....

I don't have an attitude. U do. All my posts, have been nice and to the point. I have no idea where you getting this "attitude" stuff from. Stop trying to start drama. It ain't that serious.

@gloflop.3510 said:To be honest, I understand the op's problem. Maybe some might remember when HoT came out. A WvW-player had to go to pve to unlock the specialisations. Back then, there was a lot of fun here at the forum.

Anyway, as much as we all like to have new players in WvW, I would not want to have the op on my server. He is not interested in WvW and not willing to invest time and effort in learning WvW. I consider the problem described as an issue for anet. They need to consider what to do with such players.

This guy gets it. I don't want to be here, U don't want me to be here, and now everyone has to suffer. But apparently, this what Anet wants, so it will go down like this.

actually you can play pretty pve in a wvw map as roamer. search for enemy camps, see if they're free of other players and if so attack the NPCs. flip flags, kill dolyaks, do HPs and veteran mobs (not when they're daily unless warg because the chance to meet someone on a daily is around 99%, just warg is in a safe spot for anyone except green). you're not useless and you won't meet players often.

if you only want reward tracks filled, do those pve tasks until T6, then afk for your pips and only move to keep T6 alive. do wvw dailies if they're soloable (camps, dolyaks, guards, veteran creature, land, manuments), those will give you 250-500 additional reward track points.

Never thought of roaming like that, I thought it was just running around trying to 1v6 everyone like those warrior montage videos. Maybe I will look more into trying that, maybe I can farm a lot of stuff like this, thanks for the tip!

To add to this, if you have any PvE friends on your server try capping objectives only near your spawn in each map - I don't recommend doing camps on your own as they can take too long for an inexperienced player, giving time for enemies to warclaw your kitten down. A few other ways you can keep your participation up and get pips without being at risk of PvP is repairing walls in towers/keeps, walking dolyaks (eternal battle grounds is great for this and you don't have to walk them all the way from the camp), sitting in a keep or tower and firing trebuchets at enemy tower walls, and intentionally playing at dead times and going to veteran creature spawn locations.

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@MMOStein.3872 said:

@ollbirtan.2915 said:Try roaming. You might actually learn something new. ;)

That's the problem, I don't actually want to learn anything new, I just want to farm some pips (because I
have to
) and go back to PvE :pLearning to roam will require a huge amount of research, preparing new gear, and actually being good enough to kill people and take objectives. That is a massive time (and gold) investment, All for something that I get no enjoyment from, and will only do for a few hours. That's why its not really a realistic option. If I was actually invested in PvP, then sure. But Running with a zerg for a few hours will be all that I need, which Is why I ask when is the best time to zerg.

Its not a matter of being scared or intimidated,
I do not wish to learn PvP.
It's not personal or anything, Its just not entertaining for me. I Play GW2 for the PvE mmorpg and it's simple as that. I am not a PvP gamer.

As someone who plays with a wvw guild this attitude makes me frustrated. Sure you might find the ability to be carried by a 50 man Zerg, but anything smaller you typically become a liability for those around you. This is because you dying mid fight can and will rez enemy players who are also down.Your unwillingness to be a team player doesn’t mean that others have to pick up your slack. As a result don’t complain when zergs don’t want to play with you because you’re running a bad build and unwilling to change it. There are a ton of guilds out there that will work with complete noobs provided they’re willing to learn, but it’s the attitude of “I don’t like this mode and I don’t want to learn” that will turn off people faster than anything else because a lot of people have worked hard to get good at the mode and you’re coming along expecting them to just carry you around. Nobody likes a freeloader.

That said there’s a number of ways to play solo without actually pvp-ing. Camps, sentries, and ruins all give participation. Repairing walls and hitting walls with trebs do too. If you’re not afraid to die, you can help defend objectives somewhat safely by hopping on arrow carts or casting skills from the walls. By putting in supply into a wall or gate while there are swords you get bonus participation if the objective is held for 4 minutes after the start of the attack. None of those things really require any sort of build or any cooperation. On EBG you can cap the dredge, hylek, or ogres zones just by killing pve mobs. EOTM also has more PvE elements there and the commanders there typically don’t fight each other, they just train objectives (but that mode is fairly dead due to lack of overall rewards.) Finally, if you’re dead set on being a leech off a Zerg, you probably need to give more details about what server you’re on/time zone so that people can direct you to which groups typically run. Because otherwise the main advice is going to be 7-8pm wherever you server is based (Eastern Standard Time for NA or Central European Time for EU). There are some SEA groups that run during off hours but that depends on the server.

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@"Strider Pj.2193" said:

If farming pips is what you want, then you don’t need a Zerg. But you came into this section of the forums with attitude and stated you didn’t want to ‘learn’

Good luck to you finding what you want.

Oh, eu has 27 servers and 15 host worlds, while NA has 24 servers and 12 host worlds.

Knowing where you are in that mess would allow people to like.. actually help you. But yeah.. attitude....

I don't have an attitude. U do. All my posts, have been nice and to the point. I have no idea where you getting this "attitude" stuff from. Stop trying to start drama. It ain't that serious.

actually you can play pretty pve in a wvw map as roamer. search for enemy camps, see if they're free of other players and if so attack the NPCs. flip flags, kill dolyaks, do HPs and veteran mobs (not when they're daily unless warg because the chance to meet someone on a daily is around 99%, just warg is in a safe spot for anyone except green). you're not useless and you won't meet players often.

if you only want reward tracks filled, do those pve tasks until T6, then afk for your pips and only move to keep T6 alive. do wvw dailies if they're soloable (camps, dolyaks, guards, veteran creature, land, manuments), those will give you 250-500 additional reward track points.

Never thought of roaming like that, I thought it was just running around trying to 1v6 everyone like those warrior montage videos. Maybe I will look more into trying that, maybe I can farm a lot of stuff like this, thanks for the tip!

So despite the other posts stating:

@MMOStein.3872 said:

That's the problem, I don't actually want to learn anything new, I just want to farm some pips (because I have to) and go back to PvE :pLearning to roam will require a huge amount of research, preparing new gear, and actually being good enough to kill people and take objectives. That is a massive time (and gold) investment, All for something that I get no enjoyment from, and will only do for a few hours. That's why its not really a realistic option. If I was actually invested in PvP, then sure. But Running with a zerg for a few hours will be all that I need, which Is why I ask when is the best time to zerg.

Its not a matter of being scared or intimidated, I do not wish to learn PvP. It's not personal or anything, Its just not entertaining for me. I Play GW2 for the PvE mmorpg and it's simple as that. I am not a PvP gamer.

You ACTUALLY did need to learn something.

Coming in and stating you don’t WANT TO LEARN presents as attitude.

As others have said, people WILL assist you if you are willing to

  • provide what server you are on
  • Provide the time zones you are primarily on
  • Show a willingness to understand there is more to WvW than just PvP.

You can accomplish your goal with a lot less drama both for you or to you.

Or you can struggle. Many of us get that WvW isn’t for everyone. Having help can make it far less painful for both you and those you interact with.

And I and my primary guild would be more than willing to assist if you are in our server or partnered with it.

Good luck.

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@MMOStein.3872 said:Is there a reliable time or day I can come to WvW and actually find zergs doing stuff???? I just want to farm some pips/reward tracks, and head out, seriously.

Try again after halloween :# Currentls everyone with a tag runs laby-trains. B)

PS: I know hard-core WvW'ler don't go into PvE.

PPS: But, I also know hard-core WvW'ler died out except maybe a few fossils still writing in the forum, but they don't tag-up public anymore.

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