Wuffy.9732 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Who even uses cc consumables in open world? Nobody? Yea that's what I figured as much. Since it's useless now' better off just removing them from the game completely. No point in extra unnecessary in-game content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 "Open" World is not everything.People still use them in t3+ and Strike Missions.They probably are expected in raids as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Indi.2031 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 @"Fueki.4753" said:"Open" World is not everything.People still use them in t3+ and Strike Missions.They probably are expected in raids as well.Consumables like those that were banned from use in Fractals and Dungeons today weren't ever and aren't currently usable in raids or strikes. What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 @Sir Alymer.3406 said:@"Fueki.4753" said:"Open" World is not everything.People still use them in t3+ and Strike Missions.They probably are expected in raids as well.Consumables like those that were banned from use in Fractals and Dungeons today weren't ever and aren't currently usable in raids or strikes. What are you on about?The topic was about removing consumables in general.Not all consumables were banned from instanced content today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuffy.9732 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 @"Fueki.4753" said:"Open" World is not everything.People still use them in t3+ and Strike Missions.They probably are expected in raids as well.consumables never worked in raids to my knowledge, so what are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 @Fueki.4753 said:@Sir Alymer.3406 said:@Fueki.4753 said:"Open" World is not everything.People still use them in t3+ and Strike Missions.They probably are expected in raids as well.Consumables like those that were banned from use in Fractals and Dungeons today weren't ever and aren't currently usable in raids or strikes. What are you on about?The topic was about removing consumables in general.Not all consumables were banned from instanced content today.it was specifically about "cc consumables" in the OPEditAnd yea what consumables could you use in raids other then food and utility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 @Linken.6345 said:And yea what consumables could you use in raids other then food and utility?Aren't those enough?And in Fractals, you have the specific potions, which are consumables as well.I think all of those should not be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuffy.9732 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 sorry for the confusion, should have put "CC" consumables in the title. But figured everyone would know what I was talking about since the last patch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I mean, they were not really a part of the game as is. They are a relic of a concept they never really followed through with and only later on people found use for them. Breakbars should mean some thought put into being able to break them with your builds, not having the right cheese in your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 remove at all is not ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitsu.6284 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 #RepublicansForConsumables ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsnabba.9172 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 @"Wuffy.9732" said:sorry for the confusion, should have put "CC" consumables in the title. But figured everyone would know what I was talking about since the last patch...You literally wrote cc consumables in the opening paragraph so i don't see where the confusion could possibly happen. Nor were those EVER useable in raids or strike missions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 @Redsnabba.9172 said:@"Wuffy.9732" said:sorry for the confusion, should have put "CC" consumables in the title. But figured everyone would know what I was talking about since the last patch...You literally wrote cc consumables in the opening paragraph so i don't see where the confusion could possibly happen. Nor were those EVER useable in raids or strike missionsThe second posters second post dont agree with you about there not being any confusion =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scavarius.6059 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 imagine needing an additional weaponset just to cheese a gamemode. not to mention that i never ever saw someone use that stuff in fractals. no, this change is fine. also "banned" is a pretty heavy word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuffy.9732 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 @"Scavarius.6059" said:imagine needing an additional weaponset just to cheese a gamemode. not to mention that i never ever saw someone use that stuff in fractals. no, this change is fine. also "banned" is a pretty heavy word."cheese" is a pretty heavy word. There are a lot of other technical exploits that could be addressed in here. White mantle portal device? gg for mistlock reset? The countless skips past ads and mobs anet never bothered to fix (eg. aetherblade, uncat, urban, cliffside, shattered, etc?Hey I just call it like it is. After all, the fractal pugs are just "cheesing" the gamemode as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Red Killian.3946 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Instead of removing them why not add a spot in the novelty button where you can use them in battle using that button? It doesn’t get use in battle anyway right now and just takes up space in your skill bar, and if you need to use it quickly you hit “u” and bam it’s done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 @Dark Red Killian.3946 said:Instead of removing them why not add a spot in the novelty button where you can use them in battle using that button? It doesn’t get use in battle anyway right now and just takes up space in your skill bar, and if you need to use it quickly you hit “u” and bam it’s done.So anet says we dont want you to use these in instanced battle and your solution is to give it a special inventory slot that you can bind a hotkey to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asum.4960 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 @Linken.6345 said:@"Dark Red Killian.3946" said:Instead of removing them why not add a spot in the novelty button where you can use them in battle using that button? It doesn’t get use in battle anyway right now and just takes up space in your skill bar, and if you need to use it quickly you hit “u” and bam it’s done.So anet says we dont want you to use these in instanced battle and your solution is to give it a special inventory slot that you can bind a hotkey to?Isn't that what Anet essentially already did for OW and Strikes with the Icebrood Saga Masteries? Clearly they don't want the people who desperately still need to learn the game mechanics the most to play "as intended by adjusting their build".Even worse, they don't even need to learn when and why to use that special action key for uber CC, bc it just conveniently lights up and comes available when needed.Still worse, I remember some Strike bosses being better not CC'ed, providing larger DPS windows, yet no matter how many times told not to, people would still hit that button every time, bc hey, shiny new button to press - who cares why and what it does.Now in theory I 100% agree with the overcoming by adjusting build philosophy, I'm just not entirely sure why they keep dumbing down the game foundation at the lowest level where people apparently are supposed to learn the game by constantly giving them more tools which invalidate combat mechanics (be it provide CC, give boons, etc.), but then at the same timer go after the very small remaining niche of hardcore players who have mastered the game and are looking for/using even more niche extra tools to further elevate their gameplay and to keep things interesting instead, and by doing so just keep furthering the gap between both players and the content. UI wise no special inventory slot would have been needed to fix the "iventory open issue", they could have just made the CC consumables Novelties, which already have a hotkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangoth.4503 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 @Wuffy.9732 said:Who even uses cc consumables in open world? Nobody? Yea that's what I figured as much. Since it's useless now' better off just removing them from the game completely. No point in extra unnecessary in-game content.they should remove food to it force to have inventory open to proc food on heal/killguess they could also remove skill 2-0 too as it force player to make unintended use of their keyboard :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip.2094 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I will never understand why that stuff was added to the game at all. Outside breakbar, who in the world is ever considering to buy a damn one-use rock? It's the most useless stuff in game. And when it finally had a use, it got killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 @Pip.2094 said:I will never understand why that stuff was added to the game at all. Outside breakbar, who in the world is ever considering to buy a kitten one-use rock? It's the most useless stuff in game. And when it finally had a use, it got killed.it was to do just what they now thought is unintended.kinda bad when a new developer invalidate a old devs work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I hate to be that guy, but... for pugging Serpent's Ire, those CC consumables are almost necessary to carry players through it. I use the seed pods, which have a spammable knockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 @Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:I hate to be that guy, but... for pugging Serpent's Ire, those CC consumables are almost necessary to carry players through it. I use the seed pods, which have a spammable knockdown. even with the waystation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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