felix.2386 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 any new player looking for a class similar to bard? play warrior, the support bard of guild wars 2raid, it's banner bufferpvp, it's shout healerwvw it's supporti thought there's no role for classes, but nah, warrior is the support class everyone dreamed of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @"felix.2386" said:any new player looking for a class similar to bard? play warrior, the support bard of guild wars 2Do you ready for this? 7 year ago it was meta heal for dungeons. raid, it's banner buffernow if this banner buffer do less dps than "depend from squad" - banner buffer get insta kick. Aslo soma part mechanic put on warrior. To hot for "banner buffer" now.pvp, it's shout healeron pvp any class can take any rolewvw it's supporton wvw any class can take any role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 If your idea of a bard is someone shouting loudly while waving a banner around, i definitely don't want to hear you singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 This isn't anything new, back in the early days of GW2 Warrior was the only class with both a permanent source of Regeneration and on-demand allied heals, by taking Banner of Tactics (which had skills back then, including an AoE heal), and Shouts.This made Warrior healing extremely powerful in an era where the game didn't have true healers, and they were the meta class to bring for a healer.No other class could come to the fight with a full heal kit, even Guardians lacked most of the heals they have now.Just the banner regeneration alone was OP on the old damage levels, 400+ HPs/sec was considered rediculously high. It was possible to facetank most encounters on just that alone, except maybe Lupi which needed actual footwork.Warrior is now weaker at healing than they would've been in the current game without the nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Only if Norn warriors are renamed to beard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 As a player who mains a warrior I have to say I shout very loudly as my avatar hits stuff. For some reason my shouts aren't buffing him at all. Maybe calling myself a bard will fix this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoosh.2718 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @Astralporing.1957 said:If your idea of a bard is someone shouting loudly while waving a banner around, i definitely don't want to hear you singing.Isnt that what some singers do anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @Smoosh.2718 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:If your idea of a bard is someone shouting loudly while waving a banner around, i definitely don't want to hear you singing.Isnt that what some singers do anyway?Perhaps, but i would not call them bards. And I wouldn't want to hear them singing either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kichwas.7152 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @Astralporing.1957 said:If your idea of a bard is someone shouting loudly while waving a banner around, i definitely don't want to hear you singing.Yeah but... every table top and computer game that has bards... basically does a version of that...Just like they all have an obsession with giving navy seals (rangers) bows and bears...And seem to want to give monks kung-fu powers. I wonder how many Dominican monks have fought Jet Li... O.o At least Guild Wars 1 got this one right (and having lived in Asia - I can tell you a Buddhist monk is a lot more like the Dominican guy than he or she is like Jet Li... so... yeah... score 2 for ArenaNet again).Don't blame the player because game devs got their concept-wires crossed, thanks to table-top game authors having no clue and none of these folks doing basic research...Just once I'd like to see a game with a 'Bard' NPC in some cool trailer, everyone gets all hyped up... and the guy who shows up in the new content... is a William Shakespeare knockoff voiced by Patrick Steward. ;)and his buddy is a fantasy version of Rambo, who doesn't even know which end of the bow points away from himself because he just uses daggers, mutters about the war, and hides in swamps, and their other buddy is a religious guy who hangs out in the library and teaches kids history - that they refer to as the local monk.It'd blow gamers minds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @Kichwas.7152 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:If your idea of a bard is someone shouting loudly while waving a banner around, i definitely don't want to hear you singing.Yeah but... every table top and computer game that has bards... basically does a version of that...Just like they all have an obsession with giving navy seals (rangers) bows and bears...And seem to want to give monks kung-fu powers. I wonder how many Dominican monks have fought Jet Li... O.o At least Guild Wars 1 got this one right (and having lived in Asia - I can tell you a Buddhist monk is a lot more like the Dominican guy than he or she is like Jet Li... so... yeah... score 2 for ArenaNet again).Don't blame the player because game devs got their concept-wires crossed, thanks to table-top game authors having no clue and none of these folks doing basic research...Just once I'd like to see a game with a 'Bard' NPC in some cool trailer, everyone gets all hyped up... and the guy who shows up in the new content... is a William Shakespeare knockoff voiced by Patrick Steward. ;)and his buddy is a fantasy version of Rambo, who doesn't even know which end of the bow points away from himself because he just uses daggers, mutters about the war, and hides in swamps, and their other buddy is a religious guy who hangs out in the library and teaches kids history - that they refer to as the local monk.It'd blow gamers minds...There is no Buddhism, Dominicans, Asia, kung Fu, etc in GW. There is at least one Jet Li though, halfway decent stealth thief in SPvP. A little on the predictable side though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kichwas.7152 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @Ashen.2907 said:@Kichwas.7152 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:If your idea of a bard is someone shouting loudly while waving a banner around, i definitely don't want to hear you singing.Yeah but... every table top and computer game that has bards... basically does a version of that...Just like they all have an obsession with giving navy seals (rangers) bows and bears...And seem to want to give monks kung-fu powers. I wonder how many Dominican monks have fought Jet Li... O.o At least Guild Wars 1 got this one right (and having lived in Asia - I can tell you a Buddhist monk is a lot more like the Dominican guy than he or she is like Jet Li... so... yeah... score 2 for ArenaNet again).Don't blame the player because game devs got their concept-wires crossed, thanks to table-top game authors having no clue and none of these folks doing basic research...Just once I'd like to see a game with a 'Bard' NPC in some cool trailer, everyone gets all hyped up... and the guy who shows up in the new content... is a William Shakespeare knockoff voiced by Patrick Steward. ;)and his buddy is a fantasy version of Rambo, who doesn't even know which end of the bow points away from himself because he just uses daggers, mutters about the war, and hides in swamps, and their other buddy is a religious guy who hangs out in the library and teaches kids history - that they refer to as the local monk.It'd blow gamers minds...There is no Buddhism, Dominicans, Asia, kung Fu, etc in GW. Yeah. though I would suggest looking at the inspirations of Cantha again.But they did have monks - monks are a CORE part of Guild Wars. And when they did them - they did them right. They were religious figures - healers. NOT kung-fu experts that gamers for some weird reason have linked to 'monk'... Guild Wars 1 got this concept right where so many games get it so wrong because they copy-paste from table-top devs who had no clue of the world 10 miles from where they lived... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @Kichwas.7152 said:@Ashen.2907 said:@Kichwas.7152 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:If your idea of a bard is someone shouting loudly while waving a banner around, i definitely don't want to hear you singing.Yeah but... every table top and computer game that has bards... basically does a version of that...Just like they all have an obsession with giving navy seals (rangers) bows and bears...And seem to want to give monks kung-fu powers. I wonder how many Dominican monks have fought Jet Li... O.o At least Guild Wars 1 got this one right (and having lived in Asia - I can tell you a Buddhist monk is a lot more like the Dominican guy than he or she is like Jet Li... so... yeah... score 2 for ArenaNet again).Don't blame the player because game devs got their concept-wires crossed, thanks to table-top game authors having no clue and none of these folks doing basic research...Just once I'd like to see a game with a 'Bard' NPC in some cool trailer, everyone gets all hyped up... and the guy who shows up in the new content... is a William Shakespeare knockoff voiced by Patrick Steward. ;)and his buddy is a fantasy version of Rambo, who doesn't even know which end of the bow points away from himself because he just uses daggers, mutters about the war, and hides in swamps, and their other buddy is a religious guy who hangs out in the library and teaches kids history - that they refer to as the local monk.It'd blow gamers minds...There is no Buddhism, Dominicans, Asia, kung Fu, etc in GW. Yeah. though I would suggest looking at the inspirations of Cantha again.But they did have monks - monks are a CORE part of Guild Wars. And when they did them - they did them right. They were religious figures - healers. NOT kung-fu experts that gamers for some weird reason have linked to 'monk'... Guild Wars 1 got this concept right where so many games get it so wrong because they copy-paste from table-top devs who had no clue of the world 10 miles from where they lived...It doesn't matter where the inspiration came from. What matters is that they did their own thing with it. Middle Earth was inspired by Northern Europe, but was not set in Europe and did its own things, many of which never occurred in Europe.The GW1 monk was the only profession capable of Tai Chi, which may not be the most practical combat martial art, but it is a martial art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Bard is going to be Mesmers next elite specialization, so that name has to stay free for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Nah Warrior is still warrior, but it is Emotional support warrior this time around. "You can do it, mister Holo, FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 @"Astralporing.1957" said:If your idea of a bard is someone shouting loudly while waving a banner around, i definitely don't want to hear you singing.Battle Herald then. Fits the bill, uses banner and gives inspiring commands: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/apg/battle-herald/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.6852 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Remember this Anet: Once were warriors.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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