Sajuuk Khar.1509 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 @"HotDelirium.7984" said:Was it ever explained why the Dominion Charr have the 3 corrupted spirit essences? In the timeline didn't we kill Drakkar and subjugate the corrupted spirits? If drakkar is no longer around are they then still influenced by Jormag and Bangar somehow is rerouting their spiritual power to his forces? I'm so lost.It was Jormag who corrupted the spirits, and its to the dragon their power went too. Drakker was just tapping into it to make himself more powerful.We also never "subjugated" the corrupted Spirits. We helped remind them who they were, so they would give their powers to Braham to defeat Drakker, but the spirits mention they don't believe they can ever be free of Jormag's corruption in Drizzlewood. So Jormag still has their powers, which is why Fallen and Aberrant creatures show up during the attack on the Frost Citadel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynder.2509 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I always like me some more charr lore pours another ash legion whiskey into my glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotDelirium.7984 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 @Sajuuk Khar.1509 said:@"HotDelirium.7984" said:Was it ever explained why the Dominion Charr have the 3 corrupted spirit essences? In the timeline didn't we kill Drakkar and subjugate the corrupted spirits? If drakkar is no longer around are they then still influenced by Jormag and Bangar somehow is rerouting their spiritual power to his forces? I'm so lost.It was Jormag who corrupted the spirits, and its to the dragon their power went too. Drakker was just tapping into it to make himself more powerful.We also never "subjugated" the corrupted Spirits. We helped remind them who they were, so they would give their powers to Braham to defeat Drakker, but the spirits mention they don't believe they can ever be free of Jormag's corruption in Drizzlewood. So Jormag still has their powers, which is why Fallen and Aberrant creatures show up during the attack on the Frost CitadelAh so we can extrapolate that Bangar/Jormag/Shaman/The Spirits themselves/ SOMEONE (thankyou lore?) is giving these Dominion troops the spiritual essence.Also, did we ever find out why Steel Warband recommited themselves to Bangar's cause? Nicabar was questioning the movement then SPLAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajuuk Khar.1509 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 @HotDelirium.7984 said:Ah so we can extrapolate that Bangar/Jormag/Shaman/The Spirits themselves/ SOMEONE (thankyou lore?) is giving these Dominion troops the spiritual essence.Most likely Jormag itself. Bangar doesn't have that sort of control, and the Spirits don't appear to like being used like they are, so I doubt they are giving it out directly.@HotDelirium.7984 said:Also, did we ever find out why Steel Warband recommited themselves to Bangar's cause? Nicabar was questioning the movement then SPLAT.Steel followed Ryland, and Ryland followed Bangar. Nicabar may have questioned Bangar's actions, but he was loyal to his warband leader, and Ryland told him to follow Bangar, so he did. The capture of Cinder likely made it personal for the rest of the Steel Warband to fight against the United Legions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotDelirium.7984 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 @Sajuuk Khar.1509 said:@HotDelirium.7984 said:Ah so we can extrapolate that Bangar/Jormag/Shaman/The Spirits themselves/ SOMEONE (thankyou lore?) is giving these Dominion troops the spiritual essence.Most likely Jormag itself. Bangar doesn't have that sort of control, and the Spirits don't appear to like being used like they are, so I doubt they are giving it out directly.@HotDelirium.7984 said:Also, did we ever find out why Steel Warband recommited themselves to Bangar's cause? Nicabar was questioning the movement then SPLAT.Steel followed Ryland, and Ryland followed Bangar. Nicabar may have questioned Bangar's actions, but he was loyal to his warband leader, and Ryland told him to follow Bangar, so he did. The capture of Cinder likely made it personal for the rest of the Steel Warband to fight against the United Legions.Probably a small possibility Ryland would have revealed his ambitions and joined us (and Steel) if we hadn't killed Cinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 @HotDelirium.7984 said:Was it ever explained why the Dominion Charr have the 3 corrupted spirit essences? In the timeline didn't we kill Drakkar and subjugate the corrupted spirits? If drakkar is no longer around are they then still influenced by Jormag and Bangar somehow is rerouting their spiritual power to his forces? I'm so lost.My interpretation is like Tyson's. ANet didn't want the mastery line to be completely useless outside of Bjora Marches, so they attached it to Iron/Blood/Ash as well. They follow the same color coding we see in The Ooze Pits, where we get blue (iron), green (Ash), and red (Blood) buffs.There's no lore implication that the Dominion charr are enhanced in any way. No mention of magic or essences in all of Drizzlewood Coast. The closest we get are the three champions at the end of the Citadel meta during the Claw fight, and that's just in their NPC naming.And if they were enhanced... why wouldn't Frost Legion (outside the three champs) and Flame Legion also be enhanced with essences?There's a lore reason for the Aberrants, Svanir, and Fallen being not-mixed. But no real reason why Dominion are divided by legion in their essences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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