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Arenanet with regards to the new update, can you please extend the Dragon Response Mission timers, all except Lake Doric with all Challenge Mote's active? Lake Doric is perfect with enough time to finish even with deaths and running back from the waypoint to the boss again. The others, clearly not. This is not fun content at all. I can see it in the LFG section everytime I post I'm the only one posting for a group. Please patch it this week if you can, to extend the timers in those areas with all Challenge Mote's active.

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@Bristingr.5034 said:

@Linken.6345 said:Then it would not be a challenge anymore.

Snowden Drifts is practically impossible right now to the point even Raid-geared teams are struggling.

Exactly this is not a challenge. The previous living story DRM with the challenge motes were perfect. They need to fix this broken update. I mean if it was great the LFG section would be busy but it's clearly not, mostly dead.

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@Tony.8659 said:Arenanet with regards to the new update, can you please extend the Dragon Response Mission timers, all except Lake Doric with all Challenge Mote's active? Lake Doric is perfect with enough time to finish even with deaths and running back from the waypoint to the boss again. The others, clearly not. This is not fun content at all. I can see it in the LFG section everytime I post I'm the only one posting for a group. Please patch it this week if you can, to extend the timers in those areas with all Challenge Mote's active.

@Bristingr.5034 said:

@Linken.6345 said:Then it would not be a challenge anymore.

Snowden Drifts is practically impossible right now to the point even Raid-geared teams are struggling.

I suceed it the first time, more than one minute early and no member of the team had yet tested the mission.If they give more time, there will be absolutely no more challenge as the boss is really easy. If you are not able to do it, try to improve yourself instead of always asking for a nerf ... that's the point of a challenge, if everything becomes easy, everyone gets it the first time and content becomes obsolete in 2 days.

That's why there is an easy mode and a difficult mode. We must give meaning to the word ''challenge''. Something that you achieve the first night is not a challenge, it's a joke. You forget that for some players, it's not fun to finish content the first time. What is funny is to try to adapt your build / the composition of your team to the bosses,improve your reaction time and not to run over him like a crab

raids are a hundred times harder than this DRM. By the end of this week, even without a nerf, all groups will be able to finish it.

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@Linken.6345 said:Then it would not be a challenge anymore.

Snowden Drifts is practically impossible right now to the point even Raid-geared teams are struggling.

Raid geared as in ascended?Well that dont make the person but skill do, great raiders (I'm not one) can do raids in greens so yea.

I dunno. I got kittened out because "my DPS wasn't high enough" and they blamed the failure on me. (I was running full zerker). So I'm calling them raid folks because they're toxic as hell. The boss in that map is much more tankier than all the other maps anyways. Hell, Jormag probably has less than that he does.

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@Bristingr.5034 said:

@"Linken.6345" said:Then it would not be a challenge anymore.

Snowden Drifts is practically impossible right now to the point even Raid-geared teams are struggling.

This is Day2 after the patch. It is much too early to ask for a nerf.Right now, every LFG I made had someone who is "first time" in this CM and doesn't even know the final boss's mechanics, which results in a fail.I got tired of the random people in LFG failing, and literally decided to go full out elitist mode and put "Experienced only, Show DwD" in my LFG.I cleared Snowden CM with different groups five times since yesterday, and the time left on timer for the five clears were: 2:32, 3:01, 3:00, 1:48, 1:32.So there is definitely more than enough time for a well organized group to clear it, and there is even room for a few mistakes.

Here are the tips I can give you for the Snowden CM:

  1. Bring Swiftness for the Kodan run. If the Kodan has Swiftness from beginning to end, you will gain approximately 50 seconds on the timer.
  2. Always have someone stay close to the Kodan. The Kodan stalls and does not move unless someone is nearby. Valuable time is often lost because everyone went roaming to the front.
  3. If you die at boss, waypoint quickly, mount roller beetle, and dash right back inside.
  4. Do NOT use EMP. Currently, for whatever reason, EMP will instantly destroy the boss's CC Bar, but instead of stunning him for extra damage, he will gain all the boons(as if you failed to CC) if you use EMP on him. CC with regular skills(Basilisk Venom, Headbutt, etc). He will gain 20 stacks of Might, and start one shotting people unless you boon strip him. Not sure if this is a bug, but someone else made a thread about this.Thread here: https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/122203/snowden-drift-drm-cm#latest
  5. Bring boon strip. The boss gains protection periodically, so removing it will increase your DPS. Alternatively, bring full condi party to bypass.
  6. Do not bother with CCing the side bosses, for whatever reason their CC bar is really thick. Save your CCs for the real boss.
  7. If you get lucky and get Dwarf ally, talk to him to get the special action key. The Acid does good damage.
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@Tony.8659 said:Arenanet with regards to the new update, can you please extend the Dragon Response Mission timers, all except Lake Doric with all Challenge Mote's active? Lake Doric is perfect with enough time to finish even with deaths and running back from the waypoint to the boss again. The others, clearly not. This is not fun content at all. I can see it in the LFG section everytime I post I'm the only one posting for a group. Please patch it this week if you can, to extend the timers in those areas with all Challenge Mote's active.

Haha we did All the cms yestoday and the first thing i said was now wait some days and look at the forums how People Will complain its to hard for them lol. QQ. Whats the whole point havin a Challenge mode if there is no Challenge? Just stop..

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@Cerioth.7062 said:

@Linken.6345 said:Then it would not be a challenge anymore.

Snowden Drifts is practically impossible right now to the point even Raid-geared teams are struggling.

I did it with a minute spare time. I suggest not going for mindless raid dps rotations but actually thinking about your strategies a bit better.

What strategy exactly does it require, besides dodging circles ? And how successfully accomplishing mindless dps rotations will not result in a quicker kill ?

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I agree the timer on Snowden Drifts DRM is a little bit to low.It's ok that it's a hard fight with lot of stuff going on and you have to evade a lot.

But there are some aspects a little bit over the top:

  • bugged emp-grenade buffing the boss
  • Having to speed up the escort npc
  • talking breaks in the middle of the fight where the timer goes on
  • losing so much time whilest npc runs the longest possible way and leashing forth and back after fights
  • Having the need for a very tight scheme of certain roles in the group (people start searching for 250li which is not healthy for the game outside raids)
  • The adds in the fight are too spread out and have some not thought-out mechanics ( one yeets you into the roof which resets you to the entrance, other one can jump into the unaccessible zone)

So in the end im fine with hard challenges as a skill test, but there is too much clutter and wonkiness around there which could need some more polish

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One issue with Snowden is that the white circle that you can stand in doesn’t always show up on the screen. I have yet to ever see it but I’ve seen it when I watched others play. I’m using max settings.

For the most part, I think the timers are “fine”. Lake Doric is very very lenient and probably the easiest of the four to do. Thunderhead is lenient as I’ve completed it with minutes to spare and with one of those where players failed to CC the boss every single time. I died a little on the inside after that run. Fields of Ruin is definitely fine as I did it with myself and another doing 20K+ while the others did like 6K somehow.

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@Bristingr.5034 said:Snowden Drifts is practically impossible right now to the point even Raid-geared teams are struggling.

Bollocks. I just barely missed the timer with a random pug group today, on my 1st run none the less. People are just way too used to standing still and mashing their DPS rotations without a worry in the world.

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All mission CMs are doable as of now, even Snowden. Just requires doing good amounts of damage to kill stuff fast and knowing how to use the in-game mechanics to your advantage. That escort in particular is easy if you know how to do River of Souls in W5. Though Kitty won't go into too much detail to avoid ruining the fun. Let's just say that one of Kitty's favourite things is really helpful. ;)

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Just food for thought:if you can immediately finish a challenge mode, where was the challenge?

Some players are more than capable to finish these CMs first try, which already puts to question how hard the CMs actually are. If you are struggling, maybe this "challenge" will lead to some improvement as player.

That said, some of the visual noise which prevents visibility of damage circles is tricky in this fight.

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Well I got the achievement for the stretch emote (whoopie, don't care) so with that out of the way I will be done with these DRMs. Sorry Arenanet but this content is subpar. And the worse part, we have to do these two more times, come March and May with the same content different maps. So we grind again and again. I think I will just do whatever story is there and forget about all the rest going foward until the new expansion releases. Arenanet you can use that as feedback. Kinda disappointed in the way this is going. Was here since the first public beta and now, just feeling meh about these updates. You could have made a brand new map and divide that up into four separate episodes with each episode that opens a portion of that map. That would have been really awesome but instead we get this :/

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