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I am just going to ask this (hope anet responds vs players but doubtful) is this working as intended or issue; i can't quite tell.

If anyone has a comp that works be interested in hearing what it is. Can save the obligatory (just run fractal build) responses that aren't useful, not looking for a carry looking for how it is beaten. youtube videos dont show the actual skills

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For group comp. I would suggest running either a power reaper /. mesmer for boon strip. (you can go with alac too if you want but we kinda need damage and not CC cause as @Ayrilana.1396 said, the CC is kinda bugged). You can also do with a spellbreaker but the number of boons you'll be stripping is a wee bit tad too much for a single spellbreaker.

For heal, its healbrand that can time aegis procs for that 3rd auto hit chain and the icicles popping on the ground - for insurance since both of these are telegraphed. (although both of those deal high damage that it can down a player instantly - seriously, why anet implemented this on top of the ice barrage on top of ryland at mid phase of 75%-30% is beyond me. This is already considering that the area is smol with a lot of pillars, attacks are telegraph and sometimes if you are unlucky, all avenue of the dodge for the 3rd hit will lead you to an icicle popping out downing you with 25K damage.).

For DPS, anything can work as long a #1, they can comfortably hit ryland thru his mechanics. and #2) do a minimum of like 7K - 10K dps. (the dps gate is kinda low to be honest as long as you don't wipe and get to ryland at like the 7-8min mark. Just remember to kill fast and apply swiftness to the NPC during the escort portion).

All in all for comp wise, you want to run either a reaper / mesmer for boon strip (reaper with corrupt boon or scepter 3 or something, mesmer with disenchant + domi traitline). Healbrand for heals (blocks, quickness, protection, cleanse, regen, might), DPS of any kind that can comfy hit ryland while taking his mechanics into consideration (holosmith, dragon hunter, daredevil, etc. etc.)

For guideline, the comp me and my friends ran was a Spellbreaker that manage to hold ryland in place. A mesmer that does the strip with the spellbreaker, a holo that dps, a healbrand and a reaper. (its not meta mind you but it worked for us). Hope this helps

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@SASHI.7260 said:For group comp. I would suggest running either a power reaper /. mesmer for boon strip. (you can go with alac too if you want but we kinda need damage and not CC cause as @Ayrilana.1396 said, the CC is kinda bugged). You can also do with a spellbreaker but the number of boons you'll be stripping is a wee bit tad too much for a single spellbreaker.

For heal, its healbrand that can time aegis procs for that 3rd auto hit chain and the icicles popping on the ground - for insurance since both of these are telegraphed. (although both of those deal high damage that it can down a player instantly - seriously, why anet implemented this on top of the ice barrage on top of ryland at mid phase of 75%-30% is beyond me. This is already considering that the area is smol with a lot of pillars, attacks are telegraph and sometimes if you are unlucky, all avenue of the dodge for the 3rd hit will lead you to an icicle popping out downing you with 25K damage.).

For DPS, anything can work as long a #1, they can comfortably hit ryland thru his mechanics. and #2) do a minimum of like 7K - 10K dps. (the dps gate is kinda low to be honest as long as you don't wipe and get to ryland at like the 7-8min mark. Just remember to kill fast and apply swiftness to the NPC during the escort portion).

All in all for comp wise, you want to run either a reaper / mesmer for boon strip (reaper with corrupt boon or scepter 3 or something, mesmer with disenchant + domi traitline). Healbrand for heals (blocks, quickness, protection, cleanse, regen, might), DPS of any kind that can comfy hit ryland while taking his mechanics into consideration (holosmith, dragon hunter, daredevil, etc. etc.)

For guideline, the comp me and my friends ran was a Spellbreaker that manage to hold ryland in place. A mesmer that does the strip with the spellbreaker, a holo that dps, a healbrand and a reaper. (its not meta mind you but it worked for us). Hope this helps

Boon stripping is perfect for a spellbreaker. Break Enchantments removes 3 boons, all it takes is one cc skill to cover the rest thanks to traits and they can do it solo.

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@"Blocki.4931" said:Boon stripping is perfect for a spellbreaker. Break Enchantments removes 3 boons, all it takes is one cc skill to cover the rest thanks to traits and they can do it solo.

Break enchantment remove 2 by default + 1 from loss aversion sorry this was supposed to be Enchantment Collapse. if they have other enemies near them that has boons to be strip. Break Enchantment is also NOT a control skill so the +1 from the major trait line on spellbreaker wont activate. Sure u can fully strip ryland with dagger main hand (3 + F1) and a Bullscharge to rotate with an A/A subset. but considering how many ppl dont do that anymore i opt to not add that in the explanation and just say its a Bit Tad Many for spellbreaker (which at this point is false :P )

And yes, you can solo with spellbreaker (since I am solo-ing with it for like a week and a half now on all DRM CM). But the question here was "As a Group" So i responded as a group hence I answered as a group comp.

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@"Blocki.4931" said:Boon stripping is perfect for a spellbreaker. Break Enchantments removes 3 boons, all it takes is one cc skill to cover the rest thanks to traits and they can do it solo.

Break enchantment remove 2 by default + 1 from
loss aversion
sorry this was supposed to be Enchantment Collapse. if they have other enemies near them that has boons to be strip. Break Enchantment is also NOT a control skill so the +1 from the major trait line on spellbreaker wont activate. Sure u can fully strip ryland with dagger main hand (3 + F1) and a Bullscharge to rotate with an A/A subset. but considering how many ppl dont do that anymore i opt to not add that in the explanation and just say its a Bit Tad Many for spellbreaker (which at this point is false :P )

And yes, you can solo with spellbreaker (since I am solo-ing with it for like a week and a half now on all DRM CM). But the question here was "As a Group" So i responded as a group hence I answered as a group comp.

Break Enchantments + 1 cc skill is enough. I've done this countless times solo, unless he gets more boons with more people in which case forget I ever said anything. I have done this with Greatsword + Axe Axe, only using BE + Bulls.

Just wanted to say one person can definitely cover it, but obviously more is always helpful. Didn't mean to come off as antagonistic or something.

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@Blocki.4931 said:Break Enchantments + 1 cc skill is enough. I've done this countless times solo, unless he gets more boons with more people. I have done this with Greatsword + Axe Axe.

it is enough for solo. on 5man, rylands AA hit is around 5K on prot, 7K without. the icicle barrage is around 3K if hit. the 3rd hit and the icicles on the ground does like 25K-ish dmge (literally downs you the moment it connects). Has higher health pool compared to solo. Hence you want to remove the 25 might he gets after the channel spell fast and as far as I noticed. Break Enchantments and a CC skill together with F2 (since he sometimes does the channel to the spin attack) leaves the 25might boon. (this is not an issue on solo since ryland's AA dmge there is around 2-3K only)

The boon removal has no priority as far as I know since you can probably remove the 25might on your break enchantment on time, then you wont be able to remove it even after break enchantment + CC + F2.

Also you gotta consider that since u have 4 extra ppl, a lot of them might get hit by ryland's random AOEs thus downing them thus ppl reasing leading to a down chain leading to a wipe. And since its a 5man scaling, you need to group's dps.

But why are you pushing for SOLO situation at this point though? You gotta consider that the thread owner is ASKING for a GROUP not SOLO. Solo is different since you only have your own skill to rely on.

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Besides the many helpful tips already posted on how to weaken the damage, you can also use the mechanics to your advantage: dodge the growing orange circle before it explodes, stand in the safe spots in between AoE markers (e.g., the one that's right under Ryland's feet), get behind him when he triggers his AoE cones.

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@"Infusion.7149" said:https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/122824/game-update-notes-february-2-2021As I predicted, the breakbar behavior was unintended.Fixed a bug that caused the champion boss of the Snowden Drifts Dragon Response Mission to be interrupted but not stunned when its defiance bar was depleted.

Sadly, using an EMP still gives Ryland all those boons. Tried it in both a DRM without any CMs and in one with all CMs active.

Furthermore, Ryland can still immediately act after his CC bar is broken (not stunned).

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@"Ayrilana.1396" said:So another two more weeks to wait for an eventual fix.

Maybe not. I tested it with the EMP. We don't know if busting Ryland's CC bar with normal CC breakers works as intended (stunned, no boons). Anyone try that yet?

Going down the boon-stripping route, I tried Superior Sigil of Absorption and/or Superior Sigil of Nullification on my Berserker's rifle. More than his 25 stacks of Might, it's Ryland's Protection that's the bigger problem since CM runs are on a timer. Ryland is a melee fighter, so staying away and always moving is enough to keep players alive. I tried it solo and it did make a difference, stripping boons often enough, but sadly wasn't enough for me to make it. :'( I even tried to 2-man it with those runes, me a glass cannon ranged Berserker and with a Deadeye, but it wasn't enough. My attempt didn't work, but maybe those two sigils can help other people's comps? :/

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@"Messenger.7450" said:Going down the boon-stripping route, I tried Superior Sigil of Absorption and/or Superior Sigil of Nullification on my Berserker's rifle.

I thought about going that route when I eventually get in the mood to solo it.

More than his 25 stacks of Might, it's Ryland's Protection that's the bigger problem since CM runs are on a timer.

I can see that since isn’t protection the lowest in priority to be stripped?

Ryland is a melee fighter, so staying away and always moving is enough to keep players alive. I tried it solo and it did make a difference, stripping boons often enough, but sadly wasn't enough for me to make it. :'( I even tried to 2-man it with those runes, me a glass cannon ranged Berserker and with a Deadeye, but it wasn't enough. My attempt didn't work, but maybe those two sigils can help other people's comps? :/

The issue with ranged is that it’s usually inferior to melee DPS. With how terrible the average player’s DPS is in melee, it’ll be even worse at range. With the CM having the timer, this causes an issue.

Doing the fight in melee isn’t that bad so long as you’re not just using your dodges at whim. You use a dodge for the large expanding rifle AoE and another for the cone attack. The smaller circles that surround much of the room can be avoid by walking to the side of the boss which is safe. There will always be one side of the boss which is safe.

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Don't know if it is in every game mode but there are just to many moments with extreme skill lagg/ping in these DRM to even try this solo, to many times i see Ryland just sliding all over the place, while i'm getting hit when outside of aoe and during dodges. Still, i'd rather play them with a party. These DRM with CM should be doable with a little set up from lfg group, the others i find perfect dificulty and timing (FoR), unless the breakbarr fix will help alot this needs a bit more time on the clock. BB not fixed in the last small update either.

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Problem is we really can't attack head on, Ryland keeps throwing stuff all over. Timer is counting down and still waiting to attack how about Anet reduce that. You think it's easy to put up LFG snowden all cms and win LMAO . Only have 2/5 done since the update launched. All other DRMs are done 5/5. If they think this is accessible for everyone that want's the achieve points , they must be on another planet xD. I feel bad for newer players that want the achieve points in the story but Anet makes some of the DRMs extremely hard. DRMs are not fun at all, if I didn't need the achieve points (940 left until 30K \o/) all DRMs I wouldn't even bother at all with. Just do the story and next... Been here since April 2012 1st public beta and pretty disappointed in this living story chapter and most likely we get the same come March then I think May again. Grind Wars 2 lol. If any of this content is in the new expansion, or even remotely close to it I am skipping over all of it, and focus on the story only.

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@Tony.8659 said:Problem is we really can't attack head on, Ryland keeps throwing stuff all over. Timer is counting down and still waiting to attack how about Anet reduce that.

It’s really not that bad to deal with. The multiple circle AoE’s can be avoided by walking to the safe spot which is fairly close if you’re in melee range of the boss. The expanding circle attack can be dodged right before it completes. For the cone attack, you can just dodge it.

You think it's easy to put up LFG snowden all cms and win LMAO . Only have 2/5 done since the update launched. All other DRMs are done 5/5.

I refuse to try it again with pugs who cannot so a decent amount of DPS and keep failing the mechanics. THAT’S the reason that groups are failing in that CM and others. I had to solo the Fields of Ruin one several times because of how terrible people were.

To be honest, all of the CMs are likely easier to do solo over grouping with random players.

If they think this is accessible for everyone that want's the achieve points , they must be on another planet xD.

It’ll be accessible once they actually fix the breakbar thing so that you can prevent the boss from getting boons. Or groups can just bring boon removal. There are sigils for it so any build can do this.

I feel bad for newer players that want the achieve points in the story but Anet makes some of the DRMs extremely hard. DRMs are not fun at all, if I didn't need the achieve points (940 left until 30K \o/) all DRMs I wouldn't even bother at all with.

There are other AP that you can do if it’s too difficult for you.

Just do the story and next... Been here since April 2012 1st public beta and pretty disappointed in this living story chapter and most likely we get the same come March then I think May again. Grind Wars 2 lol. If any of this content is in the new expansion, or even remotely close to it I am skipping over all of it, and focus on the story only.

Doing five CMs is hardly a grind.

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@Tony.8659 said:Actually instead of doing all of this, over and over since I have enough gold for about 3 legendaries, I can just put up in a raid LFG and pay them if they will do it :D

Uh huh. Three Legendaries worth probably a total of 6K gold which equates to around 200 hours at a generous g/hr rate. Each CM takes 15 min at most, so with five a piece and seven so far, that’s slightly under 9 hours. It helps to not rely on gross exaggerations to criticize the content.

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I switched my DPS' build to specifically break Ryland's bar. The good news is that the current patch'sFixed a bug that caused the champion boss of the Snowden Drifts Dragon Response Mission to be interrupted but not stunned when its defiance bar was depleted.does indeed work, even if EMPing Ryland punishes players by immediately giving Ryland all those boons.

The bad news is something I observed both when I EMPed Ryland and when I broke his bar without an EMP: he gets Protection.

  • If you EMP him, he gets Protection among all the other boons.
  • If you break his bar without an EMP, he doesn't get that huge slew of boons, but he will give himself Protection a short time later.
  • If you strip Ryland of his boons, he will give himself Protection a short time later, just like above.Boon stripping remains vital if you want to succeed, if just to get rid of Ryland's pesky Protection. You can break his bar with or without an EMP, or just let him channel and get his boons- you're going to need to remove that 33% damage reduction regardless.
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