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How many of the food recipes are based on real recipes and is there a story behind the choice to include them? I think it would be interesting if various people with ANet did a regular video program making the recipes IRL, discussing and taste testing them.

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  • Hesione.9412Hesione.9412 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I am super interested to know if the person who does the healer recipes is a vegetarian.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    I'm not a dev but I do cook a lot and I can tell you a lot of them are real foods, but the recipies have been tweaked to fit game mechanics.

    For example hummus really is made from chickpeas, sesame seeds, lemon and garlic, although it usually includes oil as well. But the GW2 version is made with 1 chickpea, 1 sesame seed, a whole lemon and a whole head of garlic, which in real life would make....gritty, lemony garlic paste. (I really wouldn't want to taste test that.)

    Even going by the pictures (6 chickpeas, about 20 sesame seeds, 1 lemon and 1 head of garlic) isn't much of an improvement. A realistic recipe would use something like 40 chickpeas, 40 seame seeds (both would actually be measured by weight or volume), 1/2 a lemon and about 1/8 of a head of garlic (1-2 cloves), plus vegetable oil, but that's impossible in-game becaue you can't use less than 1 of an ingredient and it would make it much more expensive to craft.

    I think one of the soup recipes use something like 10 sticks of butter ...

    Can you even fit 10 sticks of melted butter into a typical soup bowl?

  • Hesione.9412Hesione.9412 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Khisanth.2948 said:

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    I'm not a dev but I do cook a lot and I can tell you a lot of them are real foods, but the recipies have been tweaked to fit game mechanics.

    For example hummus really is made from chickpeas, sesame seeds, lemon and garlic, although it usually includes oil as well. But the GW2 version is made with 1 chickpea, 1 sesame seed, a whole lemon and a whole head of garlic, which in real life would make....gritty, lemony garlic paste. (I really wouldn't want to taste test that.)

    Even going by the pictures (6 chickpeas, about 20 sesame seeds, 1 lemon and 1 head of garlic) isn't much of an improvement. A realistic recipe would use something like 40 chickpeas, 40 seame seeds (both would actually be measured by weight or volume), 1/2 a lemon and about 1/8 of a head of garlic (1-2 cloves), plus vegetable oil, but that's impossible in-game becaue you can't use less than 1 of an ingredient and it would make it much more expensive to craft.

    I think one of the soup recipes use something like 10 sticks of butter ...

    Can you even fit 10 sticks of melted butter into a typical soup bowl?

    If you're Paula Deen? Or at a state fair (I saw a picture - I'm not in the USA - of deep fried butter, which is like a heart attack on a stick).

  • @Hesione.9412 said:

    @Khisanth.2948 said:

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    I'm not a dev but I do cook a lot and I can tell you a lot of them are real foods, but the recipies have been tweaked to fit game mechanics.

    For example hummus really is made from chickpeas, sesame seeds, lemon and garlic, although it usually includes oil as well. But the GW2 version is made with 1 chickpea, 1 sesame seed, a whole lemon and a whole head of garlic, which in real life would make....gritty, lemony garlic paste. (I really wouldn't want to taste test that.)

    Even going by the pictures (6 chickpeas, about 20 sesame seeds, 1 lemon and 1 head of garlic) isn't much of an improvement. A realistic recipe would use something like 40 chickpeas, 40 seame seeds (both would actually be measured by weight or volume), 1/2 a lemon and about 1/8 of a head of garlic (1-2 cloves), plus vegetable oil, but that's impossible in-game becaue you can't use less than 1 of an ingredient and it would make it much more expensive to craft.

    I think one of the soup recipes use something like 10 sticks of butter ...

    Can you even fit 10 sticks of melted butter into a typical soup bowl?

    If you're Paula Deen? Or at a state fair (I saw a picture - I'm not in the USA - of deep fried butter, which is like a heart attack on a stick).

    That all depends on what your definition of "Bowl" is. A stick of butter is 8 table spoons (tbsp). A random search I did found a soup/salad bowl of 32 fluid ounces, and each table spoon is half of a fluid ounce. This means the bowl will hold 64 tbsps, which is 8 sticks of butter.

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2021

    @Hesione.9412 said:

    @Khisanth.2948 said:

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    I'm not a dev but I do cook a lot and I can tell you a lot of them are real foods, but the recipies have been tweaked to fit game mechanics.

    For example hummus really is made from chickpeas, sesame seeds, lemon and garlic, although it usually includes oil as well. But the GW2 version is made with 1 chickpea, 1 sesame seed, a whole lemon and a whole head of garlic, which in real life would make....gritty, lemony garlic paste. (I really wouldn't want to taste test that.)

    Even going by the pictures (6 chickpeas, about 20 sesame seeds, 1 lemon and 1 head of garlic) isn't much of an improvement. A realistic recipe would use something like 40 chickpeas, 40 seame seeds (both would actually be measured by weight or volume), 1/2 a lemon and about 1/8 of a head of garlic (1-2 cloves), plus vegetable oil, but that's impossible in-game becaue you can't use less than 1 of an ingredient and it would make it much more expensive to craft.

    I think one of the soup recipes use something like 10 sticks of butter ...

    Can you even fit 10 sticks of melted butter into a typical soup bowl?

    If you're Paula Deen? Or at a state fair (I saw a picture - I'm not in the USA - of deep fried butter, which is like a heart attack on a stick).

    I've also heard of deep fried coca-cola at state fairs! But I think that's kind of like the Glasgow chip shops which sell deep fried haggis and Mars bars (seperately) and promise to deep fry any food you bring them. It's more having fun with the idea and playing up to stereotypes to entertain tourists than trying to make something anyone would want to eat.

    But yeah, soup with 80 tbsp of butter does not sound good. Although most of the soup recipes make 2 bowls, so I guess it's "only" 40 tbsp in each. Not that it's much better that way.

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  • Hesione.9412Hesione.9412 Member ✭✭✭✭

    As I don't understand sticks of butter or fluid ounces, I looked up metric cups and tablespoons. One metric cup apparently can hold 16.6667 tablespoons, just over 2 sticks of butter. I could not find any information online about the fluid capacity of single-serve bowls in New Zealand so, for science!, I grabbed a couple of sizes of soup bowls out of my cupboard. The shallowest one held 200 ml, which is less than a metric cup. The largest one held 500 ml, or two metric cups. For this test I did not fill the bowls to the top, but filled them to the point at which one would reasonably expect to fill them (could carry without getting one's fingers into any liquid, and would not slosh the contents onto the floor). My conclusion: 10 sticks of butter will not fit into a single-serve New Zealand bowl, let alone 10 sticks of butter plus any other substances.

    This then brings us to the question of whether we should consider the food as only single-serve. Clearly, the one-person consumption items are one-person servings. This then brings us to the feasts. The question then becomes one of the ratio of stick of butter: other ingredients, and is this ratio realistic. For some items the ratio appears realistic. For example, the plate of steak and asparagus requires one stick of butter, which is used in conjunction with one slab of red meat (for frying the meat I presume). A stick of butter seems a suitable volume for frying a slab of meat. The question one might have about this recipe is why only one asparagus spear is used. While, admittedly, the recipe is called "steak and asparagus" and not "steak and asparaguses" or "steak and asparagusi", having only one spear of asparagus may be the source of disappointment when receiving this dish.

    The butter:other ingredients ratio appears suspect in other recipes. For example, the "plate of roasted cactus" uses a one:one ratio of butter to prickly pear. My research into prickly pears in NZ suggests that these can be consumed raw as a type of fruit, with the ""taste and texture of a crisp, juicy rockmelon with just a hint of passionfruit." In this case, frying such an item in butter leads to questions of taste, and also the appropriateness of adding 3 cinnamon sticks and 3/5 of lemon to each pricky pear. Butter may be the least of the concerns here.

    The opposite may occur for other recipes, which appear to have a dearth of butter. For example, "turnip casserole" uses an entire turnip, but only one stick of butter. Perhaps the butter is merely the means through which the pile of cinnamon and sugar and egg are bound to the turnip. The addition of cinnamon and sugar to a turnip is likely an acquired taste. Also, this definition of "casserole" is unlike any casserole I have made.

    My research into recipes has been unable to locate a dish that contains 10 sticks of butter. I would be happy to provide further scientific analysis if such a recipe could be identified.

  • Tekoneiric.6817Tekoneiric.6817 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I would think that what those of us in the USA consider one stick of butter might not be what is standard on Tyria. It could be the equivalent of a 1/2 or even 1/4 stick the North American standard for butter sticks. Of course if a missing step in the game recipe is to turn X number of sticks of butter into clarified butter or ghee then that could account for the excess since the process removes the water that bulks it up. Making clarified butter is results in about a 1/4 loss in volume.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Oh my mistake! Only 4 sticks. I didn't account for the sub-recipes outputting more than 1 result https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-66531

    However now we need to deal with the issue of reducing 12 bowls of other soups into 1. The starting bowls have to start tiny or the final bowl has to be huge or both otherwise that is going to be one very viscous "soup".

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Cooking is really well done in this game. I don't use the craft enough in game, but the levelling of chef and the fun of discovery (despite the inventory madness) was highly enjoyable.

    Not being able to enjoy a Quaggan Cheeseburger though due to rule one is a shame though...

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  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    Cooking is really well done in this game. I don't use the craft enough in game, but the levelling of chef and the fun of discovery (despite the inventory madness) was highly enjoyable.

    Not being able to enjoy a Quaggan Cheeseburger though due to rule one is a shame though...

    Hmm ... could try a seal burger

  • Super Hayes.6890Super Hayes.6890 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Cool thread! I appreciate the dev response. I find this kind of insight into the making of the game really fun 😀

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks @Fire Attunement.9835 and Linsey Murdock for answering! That's really informative.

    I had a love-hate relationship with levelling cooking because it always made me hungry and often made me wish I was having some of the stuff I was making in the game instead of what I actually had.

    Also thanks for making me aware of Terrible Trio Creation. I'd seen Pixelated Provisions before, but not that one. I'll have to try some of their recipies at some point. (It's not GW2 but I might try their klah recipie too. I've been meaning to make some more for a while and I like the idea of including cayenne pepper.)

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  • Hesione.9412Hesione.9412 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tekoneiric.6817 said:
    I would think that what those of us in the USA consider one stick of butter might not be what is standard on Tyria. It could be the equivalent of a 1/2 or even 1/4 stick the North American standard for butter sticks. Of course if a missing step in the game recipe is to turn X number of sticks of butter into clarified butter or ghee then that could account for the excess since the process removes the water that bulks it up. Making clarified butter is results in about a 1/4 loss in volume.

    I went with the USA definition of a stick of butter. Those of us in a number of other countries do not have sticks. I thought it was a colloquialism until I was told about a year ago that butter in the USA can come in actual sticks.

  • Donari.5237Donari.5237 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I was coming here to link Terrible Trio (but Linsey beat me to it) as I've made their Charr Meat on a Stick several times and it's always glorious. I recommend that one highly. Due to my available kitchen stuff I use wood skewers soaked for 3 hours as recommended and cook under a broiler rather than over a grill, and I'm still in rapture at the results.

  • @Hesione.9412 said:

    @Tekoneiric.6817 said:
    I would think that what those of us in the USA consider one stick of butter might not be what is standard on Tyria. It could be the equivalent of a 1/2 or even 1/4 stick the North American standard for butter sticks. Of course if a missing step in the game recipe is to turn X number of sticks of butter into clarified butter or ghee then that could account for the excess since the process removes the water that bulks it up. Making clarified butter is results in about a 1/4 loss in volume.

    I went with the USA definition of a stick of butter. Those of us in a number of other countries do not have sticks. I thought it was a colloquialism until I was told about a year ago that butter in the USA can come in actual sticks.

    Just out of curiosity what does it come out in other countries? Butter crock or just a small plastic bowl or something? Never actually shopped for groceries in another country actually.

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    All I have to say on this topic is bless the devs who added a food eating machine to my inventory.

    Anet buff me :-(
    Make me good at game!

  • Tekoneiric.6817Tekoneiric.6817 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fire Attunement.9835 said:
    I got curious about what kind of information we had handy that might answer this question, so I turned to Linsey Murdock, one of our lead designers and the person who worked on food and recipes for GW2 launch back in 2012. She checked out this thread, was excited to share some of the basics with you, and passed this on to me for you all.

    From Linsey:

    Ok so, I personally designed all the food recipes for launch and there are a few principals that I went by and a process I used to do so, some of which has carried forward through all of the development on cooking since launch.

    RULE NUMBER ONE
    We do NOT eat the sentient creatures of Tyria. There is no charr steak, no grawl chops, hylek legs, centaur loins, harpy wings, tengu drumsticks, or quaggan blubber in any cooking recipes. There might be something named for a creature like Ettin Stew, but it is not MADE out of Ettins. Now, a discerning person might say excuse me, what about choya spines? Well, that is a story. Choya were originally NOT a sentient creature and the rewards team planned to have them pretty heavily in cooking recipes for Path of Fire. Cactus is good eats. BUT THEN, we found out that the choya had VILLAGES and DANCED in circles. To me, that indicated a society and took them out of the running for food. However, it had already been built and accounted for in the economy balance and we didn’t have time to redo all that work. So we renamed everything to use “Choya Spines” which are the needles they shed. We decided this would be OK because we decided that harvesting those spines would not harm the choya. It’s like fingernails. They regrow. A little flimsy, but it let us sleep at night.

    RULE NUMBER TWO
    No gross food. No Monster Mystery Meat Stew. Ideally, it should all be REAL recipes distilled down to their simplified Tyrian analog. We have had some exceptions to this rule sneak past me. I am but one woman. I was not able to stem the tide of candy corn brittle.

    RULE NUMBER THREE
    Avoid single use base ingredients as much as possible. I really tried to make sure that if I was going to include a particular vegetable or herb or what have you, that it would be used in multiple recipes.

    RULE NUMBER FOUR
    Avoid made up ingredients. I made a fundamental decision to use real world vegetables, fruits, and herbs without renaming them into Tyrian versions. I did this because I wanted to take advantage of players real world knowledge of food to help train them on how to make food in GW2. Again, a few exceptions snuck past me like Winterberries, and one exception I personally made affordance for, which is Omnomberries… because it amused me. Fun fact, the icon for Omnomberries looks like a Mangosteen, which is a tropical fruit I got to try on a trip to Hawaii once!

    Thanks for the very interesting response. I hope someone finds a place to put this in the wiki.

    I think a Tyrian cooking show online would be an interesting way to lure people to the game. Sort of a come for the food; stay for the adventure.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Head Kracker.4790 said:

    @Hesione.9412 said:

    @Tekoneiric.6817 said:
    I would think that what those of us in the USA consider one stick of butter might not be what is standard on Tyria. It could be the equivalent of a 1/2 or even 1/4 stick the North American standard for butter sticks. Of course if a missing step in the game recipe is to turn X number of sticks of butter into clarified butter or ghee then that could account for the excess since the process removes the water that bulks it up. Making clarified butter is results in about a 1/4 loss in volume.

    I went with the USA definition of a stick of butter. Those of us in a number of other countries do not have sticks. I thought it was a colloquialism until I was told about a year ago that butter in the USA can come in actual sticks.

    Just out of curiosity what does it come out in other countries? Butter crock or just a small plastic bowl or something? Never actually shopped for groceries in another country actually.

    In Britain it's either sold in a block (wrapped in plastic or grease proof paper) or in a plastic tub.

    I suppose the blocks are similar to sticks, just wider and shorter (not quite a cube, but a short rectangle), but I think they must be bigger too because you'd have to be making a lot of something to use a whole block in a recipie. Most are 250g - 500g.

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  • Westenev.5289Westenev.5289 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I have to wonder, do we not cook sentient meat recipes because the commander dislikes it, because it's socially taboo or because it genuinely tastes bad? I mean, did humans eat charr back in gw1 ascalon? They certainly had no reservations turning their skin into 10 slot bags...

  • Me: Yea ill quickly rush cooking to 500 and thats it
    Devs: Every one of these cooking recipes holds the key to both world domination and immortality in it's very source code!

    Jokes aside stop making delicious stop in games, it's making me hungry and I can't eat a Peppercorn-Crusted Sous-Vide Steak irl every day out of financial, health and ethical reasons.

  • but why not asura as food? They are not exactly sentient (being out-thought by skritt all the time and we all know how dumb those are).

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Danikat.8537 said:

    @Head Kracker.4790 said:

    @Hesione.9412 said:

    @Tekoneiric.6817 said:
    I would think that what those of us in the USA consider one stick of butter might not be what is standard on Tyria. It could be the equivalent of a 1/2 or even 1/4 stick the North American standard for butter sticks. Of course if a missing step in the game recipe is to turn X number of sticks of butter into clarified butter or ghee then that could account for the excess since the process removes the water that bulks it up. Making clarified butter is results in about a 1/4 loss in volume.

    I went with the USA definition of a stick of butter. Those of us in a number of other countries do not have sticks. I thought it was a colloquialism until I was told about a year ago that butter in the USA can come in actual sticks.

    Just out of curiosity what does it come out in other countries? Butter crock or just a small plastic bowl or something? Never actually shopped for groceries in another country actually.

    In Britain it's either sold in a block (wrapped in plastic or grease proof paper) or in a plastic tub.

    And we call it Bu'er

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  • keenedge.9675keenedge.9675 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lindsey
    Crafting food in gw2 always makes me hungry and interested in trying something new at home.
    1. I've been looking on the 'net for a real-world Spicy Pumpkin Cookies. I think I'd love those.
    2. Our Ascended chefs cant make hot cocoa or grilled cheese. Great comfort foods.

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  • Hesione.9412Hesione.9412 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Danikat.8537 said:

    @Head Kracker.4790 said:

    @Hesione.9412 said:

    @Tekoneiric.6817 said:
    I would think that what those of us in the USA consider one stick of butter might not be what is standard on Tyria. It could be the equivalent of a 1/2 or even 1/4 stick the North American standard for butter sticks. Of course if a missing step in the game recipe is to turn X number of sticks of butter into clarified butter or ghee then that could account for the excess since the process removes the water that bulks it up. Making clarified butter is results in about a 1/4 loss in volume.

    I went with the USA definition of a stick of butter. Those of us in a number of other countries do not have sticks. I thought it was a colloquialism until I was told about a year ago that butter in the USA can come in actual sticks.

    Just out of curiosity what does it come out in other countries? Butter crock or just a small plastic bowl or something? Never actually shopped for groceries in another country actually.

    In Britain it's either sold in a block (wrapped in plastic or grease proof paper) or in a plastic tub.

    I suppose the blocks are similar to sticks, just wider and shorter (not quite a cube, but a short rectangle), but I think they must be bigger too because you'd have to be making a lot of something to use a whole block in a recipie. Most are 250g - 500g.

    Same in NZ, 500g standard. The ones that are wrapped have small lines on the sides to show 50g portions.

  • Tekoneiric.6817Tekoneiric.6817 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2021

    @keenedge.9675 said:
    @Lindsey
    Crafting food in gw2 always makes me hungry and interested in trying something new at home.
    1. I've been looking on the 'net for a real-world Spicy Pumpkin Cookies. I think I'd love those.
    2. Our Ascended chefs cant make hot cocoa or grilled cheese. Great comfort foods.

    On Bitterfrost Frontier with the Bitter cold, I wish they'd used hot food and beverage recipes to give extreme cold resistance instead of the elixir. Hot beverages and hot foods could have given a specific amount of time resistance to the cold. With hot beverages and hot foods stack. They could have use the Bitter Cold in future Shiverpeak maps instead of making it a single map thing. They had to recreate it with the Raven Barrier Shrine/Warmth. I've never been a fan of reinventing things like that.

  • Now I'm just curious what ANet devs imagine Omnomberries actually canonically taste like.

  • Well, I found a conversion. For butter, 1 tablespoon = 14.4 grams. This means that one stick of freedom butter is about 115.2 grams of ye olde butter block. Give or take, depending on the brand and density of the butter. For comparison, one tablespoon of water is 15 grams.

    Sometimes our butter comes in tubs, too. Especially the kind that is pre-mixed with oil for easy spreading.

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  • @Danikat.8537 said:

    @Head Kracker.4790 said:

    @Hesione.9412 said:

    @Tekoneiric.6817 said:
    I would think that what those of us in the USA consider one stick of butter might not be what is standard on Tyria. It could be the equivalent of a 1/2 or even 1/4 stick the North American standard for butter sticks. Of course if a missing step in the game recipe is to turn X number of sticks of butter into clarified butter or ghee then that could account for the excess since the process removes the water that bulks it up. Making clarified butter is results in about a 1/4 loss in volume.

    I went with the USA definition of a stick of butter. Those of us in a number of other countries do not have sticks. I thought it was a colloquialism until I was told about a year ago that butter in the USA can come in actual sticks.

    Just out of curiosity what does it come out in other countries? Butter crock or just a small plastic bowl or something? Never actually shopped for groceries in another country actually.

    In Britain it's either sold in a block (wrapped in plastic or grease proof paper) or in a plastic tub.

    I suppose the blocks are similar to sticks, just wider and shorter (not quite a cube, but a short rectangle), but I think they must be bigger too because you'd have to be making a lot of something to use a whole block in a recipie. Most are 250g - 500g.

    So it sounds like your block equals about around 1 pack of 4 sticks laid atop one another over in America since my pack of 4 sticks is 453G. So in general its generally more a change in presentation and packaging since as you say it takes ALOT of use to use such a large amount of butter .

    To throw you even more for a loop I can buy half sticks over here which is basically the equivalent of 2 sticks of butter cut in half again or half a block. Really its useful since as a single person, unless you love butter in everything, there is no way to use that much butter in a decent timeframe.

  • @Head Kracker.4790 said:

    @Hesione.9412 said:

    @Tekoneiric.6817 said:
    I would think that what those of us in the USA consider one stick of butter might not be what is standard on Tyria. It could be the equivalent of a 1/2 or even 1/4 stick the North American standard for butter sticks. Of course if a missing step in the game recipe is to turn X number of sticks of butter into clarified butter or ghee then that could account for the excess since the process removes the water that bulks it up. Making clarified butter is results in about a 1/4 loss in volume.

    I went with the USA definition of a stick of butter. Those of us in a number of other countries do not have sticks. I thought it was a colloquialism until I was told about a year ago that butter in the USA can come in actual sticks.

    Just out of curiosity what does it come out in other countries? Butter crock or just a small plastic bowl or something? Never actually shopped for groceries in another country actually.

    My wife, who comes from Chile states that their butter also come in sticks. However the package of 4 sticks weighs half a kilo instead of a pound.

  • Ragi.7291Ragi.7291 Member ✭✭✭

    Thank you @Fire Attunement.9835 and Linsey Murdock for sharing your job and creative process, it's great!!
    I hope to see more like this, or the post on the making of Sunqua fractal which was great.

  • This was a very entertaining thread. Now I want to try a mangosteen.

  • Samnang.1879Samnang.1879 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No, they are not.
    Imagine making Avocado shakes with avocadoes and Difluorite crystals... I-

    If you want to make poisons, that's the perfect recipe :#

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  • While on the principle I have no issue with the food design overall, it was mentioned that they had meetings about "economy" and ingredients, they apparently totally failed at this.
    The situation right now, and since many years, is that 90%+ of the materials are worth nothing, only coppers.
    So we have a huge material storage for many food ingredients, that are not worth picking up anyway.
    And there was almost no efforts to fix that, sure the 500 cook update did partially solve the issue of food value, for a limited time, but its not fixing the root issue at all.
    The real issue behind the worthless food is that its worthless... make food matters and bingo ppl will craft more of them, gather more materials, and make the market alive again.
    Right now, been a crafter is just a waste of gold, more or less, the only thing that keep cooking revelant is the ascended food, it probably wouldnt take much efforts to make it worthy as a whole, but I dont believe thats what they want.

  • @Tekoneiric.6817 said:
    How many of the food recipes are based on real recipes and is there a story behind the choice to include them? I think it would be interesting if various people with ANet did a regular video program making the recipes IRL, discussing and taste testing them.

    Can't say that I care much about that, although it is "flavor" if you will. What I do care about is the absurdity of having to kill 40 giant Moas to get a SINGLE bit of poultry meat to drop.

    It is a shame that the team doesn't go over things like supply and tweak to eliminate grossly artificial shortages like that. Frustration and annoyance coupled with forced mindless grinding/farming does not a fun game make.

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    @arukAdo.2047 said:
    While on the principle I have no issue with the food design overall, it was mentioned that they had meetings about "economy" and ingredients, they apparently totally failed at this.
    The situation right now, and since many years, is that 90%+ of the materials are worth nothing, only coppers.
    So we have a huge material storage for many food ingredients, that are not worth picking up anyway.
    And there was almost no efforts to fix that, sure the 500 cook update did partially solve the issue of food value, for a limited time, but its not fixing the root issue at all.
    The real issue behind the worthless food is that its worthless... make food matters and bingo ppl will craft more of them, gather more materials, and make the market alive again.
    Right now, been a crafter is just a waste of gold, more or less, the only thing that keep cooking revelant is the ascended food, it probably wouldnt take much efforts to make it worthy as a whole, but I dont believe thats what they want.

    The question is what they were attempting to achieve in these meetings. If they want it to be profitable to gather and sell most cooking materials then yes there's an issue, if on the other hand they want to make sure most foods are relatively cheap to craft so most players can afford to make and use them without worrying that they're wasting gold when they do then it's a success.

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  • I started playing about two weeks ago and cooking is one of my favorite aspects of the game. So far, everything I've discovered has sounded completely real AND delicious and is making me want to cook more in real life, too!

  • @Danikat.8537 said:
    The question is what they were attempting to achieve in these meetings. If they want it to be profitable to gather and sell most cooking materials then yes there's an issue, if on the other hand they want to make sure most foods are relatively cheap to craft so most players can afford to make and use them without worrying that they're wasting gold when they do then it's a success.

    Yeah but in that case, they would have make it so that the cost is fixed, in karma, or whatever else they could come up with, and not something tradable, gatherable.
    It also make no sence, given, the good food is costly.
    No, the problem is the huge diversity over food that shouldnt be that much diversified, for near zero benefit to players.

    When I sayd there are easy ways to fix the situation, I actually meant it, you could for exemple make food effect stackable, like everything else, but thats just one idea and theres many possibilities for them to change the state of the crafting/market, but they didnt, and we are now close to 10 years since release, so it probly wont ever change.

  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The "Tapioca" in HoT(i guess in verdant brink) is from my country Brazil, the portuguese on colonial era(around 1600's) bring it to far east asia, and become popular theres too. So whats is called as tapioca in Brazil is know by the same name on Asia. In Brazil the invention of tapioca is credited to native indians. But in Asia, that recipe evolve to "bubble tea". well its a long history and im lazy to continue.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bowl_of_Tapioca_Pudding

    https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapioca
    https://pt.qaz.wiki/wiki/Tapioca
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapioca
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_tea
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapioca_balls

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  • Cooking is my favorite craft to level up. It is really fun and it makes me want to learn to cook different recipes at home. I was expecting Arena Net to come out with a cookbook and I am surprised it has not. I remember seeing someone make a beautiful PDF of their GW2 cookbook idea on the Art forums and it looked like something I would definitely buy. I am hoping that maybe Alchemy Art Group (the makers of Tyrian Gazette and Tyrian Tarot) will partner up with Arena Net again and make something like this happen. I think they would be able to raise a lot of money, just like their previous projects.

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  • @Glass Too.4709 said:
    My wife, who comes from Chile states that their butter also come in sticks. However the package of 4 sticks weighs half a kilo instead of a pound.

    Weird. They don't come in sticks, is more of a brick of 250g, 500g, or a kilogram. Though, if you need to know about the actual stick measure, they're marked in the packaging (50g)

  • @Kiba.9743 said:
    Cooking is my favorite craft to level up. It is really fun and it makes me want to learn to cook different recipes at home. I was expecting Arena Net to come out with a cookbook and I am surprised it has not. I remember seeing someone make a beautiful PDF of their GW2 cookbook idea on the Art forums and it looked like something I would definitely buy. I am hoping that maybe Alchemy Art Group (the makers of Tyrian Gazette and Tyrian Tarot) will partner up with Arena Net again and make something like this happen. I think they would be able to raise a lot of money, just like their previous projects.

    I saw that too. Chelsea Monroe-Cassel came out with lovely ESO and WoW cookbooks in 2018 and 2019, so there's certainly a market for one.