Exile.8160 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 @"zuzu.6014" said:Lol guardian was nerfed? XDDD Hes most broken class in the game right now so omega lol he was nerfed I wonder how broken was he before "nerf".Nerf this ...Why does that justify guard to be useless outside of support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 @Tharan.9085 said:DPS guard is still fineNot even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleCenta.2190 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Imagine reading this as a p2 playing mostly core guard zerk ?. Necro doing 1vs3 kekw. My eyes are bleeding so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyroar.2974 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Any plats here playing core zerker guardians at their elo need to share their builds. I wanna try them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Core Ele & Core Engi: bruh, you sirius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Curze.5130 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Guardian has been so unbelievably OP for so long that all guardian players thought that was the status quo, the norm. And now that Anet is finally balancing guardian they suddenly realize that without being OP they suck. So they cry bloody murder.In the end it's all ANet's fault, they should have never allowed it to last this long, they spoiled an entire generation of players, and now they have to l2p, so of course they are angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 @TrollingDemigod.3041 said:Core Ele & Core Engi: bruh, you sirius?Never said they didnt need help too. Im just point it out for a I class I know about and can safely say it needs help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 @"Konrad Curze.5130" said:Guardian has been so unbelievably OP for so long that all guardian players thought that was the status quo, the norm. And now that Anet is finally balancing guardian they suddenly realize that without being OP they suck. So they cry bloody murder.In the end it's all ANet's fault, they should have never allowed it to last this long, they spoiled an entire generation of players, and now they have to l2p, so of course they are angryWhat are you talking about? Lol every single build that guards have ever got has been nerf into the ground? Keep in mind not nerf like rev holo thief or nec which has been "nerf" yet they still have the same build being meta. How have we been OP for long? Power Guard - goneMedi guard - goneBurn core - goneOriginal DH - gonePower DH - goneSupport FB - goneSymbolbrand - goneBurn FB -goneBurn DH - goneShout core - was gone for years but recently came back and currently the only consistent build for guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharan.9085 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 I don't know, I still crush ppl in p2 with my core power guard, maybe you just need to stop crying and get good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighter.5631 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 @"snoow.1694" said:All within one year and all nerfs after the Feb 2020 patch btw. Support Core Guard is next on that list, since after Menders will be removed Tempest with Mist Form and blink or Healbreaker with Shield 5, mobility and Full Counter spam will be more likely to survive as supports than Guardianswarrior had 1 meta build since feb 2020 and that lasted for 2 months in a total of 14 months, which means warrior is down for 12 months since feb 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 @Tharan.9085 said:I don't know, I still crush ppl in p2 with my core power guard, maybe you just need to stop crying and get good?Probe the same kind of people that win in a landslide because the enemy team was either fighting, had bots or a leaver and call themselves good and tell the rest to get good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 I will debunk this today, I'll come back and stream some zerk guard tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 @Math.5123 said:I will debunk this today, I'll come back and stream some zerk guard tonight. I was gonna do same thing.Post with me so we can end this silly debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 @Math.5123 said:I will debunk this today, I'll come back and stream some zerk guard tonight. Well make sure to put the whole stream up and not just the good bits to prove a point ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharan.9085 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 @Exile.8160 said:@Tharan.9085 said:I don't know, I still crush ppl in p2 with my core power guard, maybe you just need to stop crying and get good?Probe the same kind of people that win in a landslide because the enemy team was either fighting, had bots or a leaver and call themselves good and tell the rest to get good. that's why I am consisten up there on different classes and builds, makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 @Exile.8160 said:@Math.5123 said:I will debunk this today, I'll come back and stream some zerk guard tonight. Well make sure to put the whole stream up and not just the good bits to prove a point ;)@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:@Math.5123 said:I will debunk this today, I'll come back and stream some zerk guard tonight. I was gonna do same thing.Post with me so we can end this silly debacle.https://www.twitch.tv/i_am_math_Going live in like 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/977903455It's my fill for another 4 months. 2 games against mAT winners and God of PvP. The third game a classic plat queue.Queued with a power mirage that's just below p3 to boost the matchmaking a bit early on.Power guard is fine in ranked, very terrible in organized games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 I say guard need more health and a speed trait thats not on dh and power could be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Just played a plat game with 5 guards, most of them playing power core & dh. Guard is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I ended up streaming a Druid test tonight rather than Guard, but I did find a decent Guard build that I felt was working well. I can say that DH and FB felt bad while running tests and trying to figure something out, but this one Core Guard build I threw together was working out surprisingly well. I made this build because I felt that traditional Core Burst Guard builds lack the disengage factor and sustained pressure to be able to deal with being caught in 1v1s against things like Holo or Renegade as examples. Try this build if you haven't tried something like this already. It works, just don't try to face tank like older builds. You need to kite and move, not soak damage:Marauder/Speed RuneScepter/Shield Energy Courge - Greatsword Energy CourageValor 212 - Honor 331 - Virtue 1236 Litany - 7 Contemplation - 8 Stand Ground - 9 Retreat - 0 Feel WrathIt plays just like a Reaper that has a lot of team buffs for team fights. It's bringing team stability/stun breaks, a lot of team aegis, team quickness fury, team might buffing, and decent level of team cleanse.I'm not saying this build is massively OP, but it was working and seemed potent as a team fight presence. It can 1v1 everything on a side node except heavy boon removal or fire weavers. I'm not saying this is the BEST variant possible post patch, I'm just saying it works and it certainly has damage output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighter.5631 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 anything with teleport will be always good in ranked Q, meta only represents organized plays.plenty thief/mes in top rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 @snoow.1694 said:@Zodi.8932 said:I’m still going pretty strong tbh on my burn DH in G3, P1. I win most 1 on 1s. But yeah necros are simply another level at the moment. A decent scourge or reaper carries matches alone and I have seen them solo kill 3 players in a few games recently. I bet 1000 gold you would lose 1v1 against every Plat 1 Soulbeast, Core Ranger, Weaver, Reaper, Mirage, Power Herald, Condi Herald, Core Necro, Spellbreaker, Holo and Scrapper 5-95. What are you even talking about when you play practically a glasscanon in terms of traits who can‘t put on any form of pressure anymore, since they nerfed burn by 50%. They could have made Sword of Justice a one-hit skill and the problem would have been solved - instead they nerfed the whole spec into uselessness You would have a good shot vs reaper maybe, everything else is spot on at least in PvP. Guardian is basically a hit and run class with no disengage and is basically one of the worst 1v1 professions atm because of that reason as far as PvP goes, the main defense(block) are on a rather high CD when you try to juggle between dmg and sustain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasai.3549 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I just want Hammer to not suck to use anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 @Yasai.3549 said:I just want Hammer to not suck to use anymore. Hammer works to a certain degree, even better in Wvw with signer of agility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 @Yasai.3549 said:I just want Hammer to not suck to use anymore. Hammer just needs a faster 3rd Auto Attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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