DirtyDan.4759 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 To those advocating for this bug to remain: cm stands for challenge mode. Either get better at the game or don't do cm. Adjust your build and your gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jong.5937 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 @"mindcircus.1506" said:All this ever took was a decent team who worked the mechanics.Yeah that is quite possibly true. No doubt, though, Snowdon's timer was and to some extent still is, out of step with the others. With the other DRMs, the timer "challenge" barely merits the name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksome.1697 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahocan.5802 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 İ dont know about CM's but in ''normal mode'' mobs have more hp and damage... it was more harder to do solo with this hp..hope its gona fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jong.5937 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 @darksome.1697 said:Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.Please no! I can't face doing these three times a day in this braindead mode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristingr.5034 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 @Jong.5937 said:@darksome.1697 said:Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.Please no! I can't face doing these three times a day in this braindead mode! So then don't. The challenge that these missions exerted are less fun and less rewarding than other things in the game. For the time that it takes to do one of these, you can just do a T4 fractal. I generally spend my time in WvW and THAT provides more rewards (and fun) than these damn things. Once the bug gets fixed, the participation rate will plummet again. The only reason people are even doing them right now is to snatch the achievements and bailing. That speaks more about the content rather than the bug/exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 @darksome.1697 said:Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.Let me get this straight.... we're now to make allowances for people who didn't cheat in a timely manner?This community... seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksome.1697 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 @mindcircus.1506 said:@darksome.1697 said:Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.Let me get this straight.... we're now to make allowances for people who didn't cheat in a timely manner?This community... seriously.I forgot to put a sarcasm mode on. Tbh, just looking at my friends list, the number of people there now constantly in CMs racking up all the AP that would otherwise have taken some effort is staggering. They should have patched this immediately. 24+ hours later, they're too late to the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jong.5937 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 @Bristingr.5034 said:@Jong.5937 said:@darksome.1697 said:Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.Please no! I can't face doing these three times a day in this braindead mode! So then don't. The challenge that these missions exerted are less fun and less rewarding than other things in the game. For the time that it takes to do one of these, you can just do a T4 fractal. I generally spend my time in WvW and THAT provides more rewards (and fun) than these kitten things.I spend most of my time in WvW too, so you'll get no argument from me there. But, regarding DRMs, I'll agree they have been done on the cheap and are pretty repetitive, but there are unique rewards, unique mats and a unique currency that may still be used for something useful (e.g. legendary amulet). Also, before this bug, the widespread application and need for removal, of buffs is a nice evolution, even from T4 fractals.The rewards in gold may not be as high but they do offer a different challenge and the mats/currency may be needed later. I'd prefer to do them during these events rather than in a month when the scene really is dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jong.5937 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 @darksome.1697 said:@mindcircus.1506 said:@darksome.1697 said:Leaving it in for as long as you have now without a patch, you might as well keep it like this. I've seen people doing CMs for 24hrs since this bug got known. After all, it takes no skill whatsoever, you can even solo the CMs on a bear bow now. Reverting it will make those not reading the forums/reddit feel cheated.Let me get this straight.... we're now to make allowances for people who didn't cheat in a timely manner?This community... seriously.I forgot to put a sarcasm mode on. Tbh, just looking at my friends list, the number of people there now constantly in CMs racking up all the AP that would otherwise have taken some effort is staggering. They should have patched this immediately. 24+ hours later, they're too late to the party.Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeracK.3601 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 ill be honest i found the drms i did today was more fun then any i did before lol. I'm all for hard content but making it "hard" by giving it a f*** ton of hp, so you have to stare at your screen for 10 minutes for something to die isn't hard or fun. it just kinda sucks >.<The pacing of some of them like lake doric, snowden, and fireheart rn actually was fun to me. When they 'fix' it they should just make things hit harder but keep things dying fast like this.GW2 has always been a really casual game over all. I think thats why when ever something needs to be adjusted its hard for the dev's to improve things because they need to ignore so many insecure gamers like half the comments in this thread. I think for anyone who actually does all the content in this game it's pretty clear that gw2 is a pretty casual game, so you end up with lots of insecure gamers who cling to anything that is hard to clear no matter if its hard because its actually hard(rarely), too easy(half the strike achievements are 'hard' because people kill stuff way too fast lol), its hard to find a group for it, or just because of design oversights.Failing rewards after 20 minutes just because of a timer being too tight isnt fun. I'd rather the timer not be one of the challenges and instead be more of a bonus thing like it is in strikes, only start at the final boss, or some other change. Just in general DRMs need balance work and most people don't enjoy them as is. I think it's really transparent when you see people jumping at chances to say "BUT THEY EASY" Anyone with some sense can tell those people only care about identifying themselves as someone who it was "easy" for before this bug instead of actually caring if this game improves in quality.But that's just my cynical realistic outlook on things. (shrug) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilora.9524 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 @mindcircus.1506 said:This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.Anet making a mistake and players running drms to get achieves is not an exploit. I still won't do them as drm's are boring to me but sure let anyone run them until anet fixes but no you don't get to reset their progress because you think you earned them and are special or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 @Jilora.9524 said:@mindcircus.1506 said:This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.Anet making a mistake and players running drms to get achieves is not an exploit. I still won't do them as drm's are boring to me but sure let anyone run them until anet fixes but no you don't get to reset their progress because you think you earned them and are special or something.Knowingly leveraging a bug to advance your character/account is the very definition of exploiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristingr.5034 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Welp, it's fixed, so back to never doing them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 hi guys, pls don't spam with your opinions in bug section as you make hard time to find any usefull informationit's totaly understandable that some ppl like easy mode and some other half like chalange mode to fight longer and harderBug raport:Bug got fixed 5min ago after hotfix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristingr.5034 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 You don't need to go check every little thing on a bug fix... that's literally the QA's job. They would have checked before they pushed it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 You don't need to go check every little thing on a bug fix... that's literally the QA's job. They would have checked before they pushed it live.it's more of 2in1, i like cm drms solo/team anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilora.9524 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 @mindcircus.1506 said:@Jilora.9524 said:@mindcircus.1506 said:This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.Anet making a mistake and players running drms to get achieves is not an exploit. I still won't do them as drm's are boring to me but sure let anyone run them until anet fixes but no you don't get to reset their progress because you think you earned them and are special or something.Knowingly leveraging a bug to advance your character/account is the very definition of exploiting.They adjust difficulty all the time so not everyone would have known it wasn't intended. Now if i thought it wasn't because you had achieves and others didn't i might agree but this was all because you saw many getting achieves easier and were mad your achieves were of less value because you earned it hence the stalking of lfg to see all these exploiters. Like Boneskinner man was ez too hard easier again and now. Or metas so some probably didn't knowingly take advantage and noone should get reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 @Jilora.9524 said:@mindcircus.1506 said:@Jilora.9524 said:@mindcircus.1506 said:This bug is awful and absolutely sucked the fun out of my group's DRM run last night.Please fix these as soon as possible and revoke the acheivements from anyone who has exploited this bug to get them.Anet making a mistake and players running drms to get achieves is not an exploit. I still won't do them as drm's are boring to me but sure let anyone run them until anet fixes but no you don't get to reset their progress because you think you earned them and are special or something.Knowingly leveraging a bug to advance your character/account is the very definition of exploiting.They adjust difficulty all the time so not everyone would have known it wasn't intended. Now if i thought it wasn't because you had achieves and others didn't i might agree but this was all because you saw many getting achieves easier and were mad your achieves were of less value because you earned it hence the stalking of lfg to see all these exploiters. Like Boneskinner man was ez too hard easier again and now. Or metas so some probably didn't knowingly take advantage and noone should get reset.Difficulty adjustments are usually announced and it's fairly obvious that a CM being the same difficulty as normal mode is not intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristingr.5034 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKRathalos.9625 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 @Bristingr.5034 said:Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 @DKRathalos.9625 said:@Bristingr.5034 said:Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little.Well fortunately for you that difficulty can be found in normal DRMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye Terrier.3805 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 @Ayrilana.1396 said:@DKRathalos.9625 said:@Bristingr.5034 said:Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little.Well fortunately for you that difficulty can be found in normal DRMs.Then they need to make the rewards equal to the difficulty. Which at CM mode, it's not, not by a long shot. Hard tasks are fine. Hard (read: TIME-CONSUMING) tasks with stingy rewards are not fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healix.5819 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 @Ayrilana.1396 said:@DKRathalos.9625 said:@Bristingr.5034 said:Just checked the boards. Nobody is doing DRMs now. Shocker.They actually improved activity on it accidentally and then they pull the rug out. Zzz.Lol yeah. The bug is actually the perfect difficulty for DRM considering the reward is little.Well fortunately for you that difficulty can be found in normal DRMs.Enemies were stronger when it was bugged. The bug ultimately had little impact when solo, making the CMs a little faster while normal was slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 there is good idea: make one day per few, or four week, where all drm and raids have reduced hp. It will helps people check some content and get success without 250li requirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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