Siska.8102 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 No there isn't enough reasonably attainable mastery points. It makes playing the story miserable. I don't need things handed to me, but when playing the story is gated behind having the mount mastery needed to get the mastery it gets a bit stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despond.2174 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 At first I thought there wasn't many, but once you get the bunny the MPs will flow like water. I am on 19 points and can't get XP fast enough. About to finish skim 3 then work on jackal 3, then I will still have points left over and I'll go back and get all the level 3 mount MPs to fill out lvl 4 on each mount.There's a few gimmie MPs on the first map, West in the water on one that's on a roof you just can walk up to. You can also glide to the sand MP from the north West pyramids accessed via the West coast, and the puzzle MP is easy. That's enough to get you to Raptor 3/Bunny with just doing the storyline to the second map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killermanjaro.5670 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I can't quite work out why people are thinking there's a lack of them available / not easy to get. From doing the story and getting insights around the first map I had no issues reaching raptor 3. Then in the second map I've explored to get some insights and done some story up as far as the instance in the NE corner of the map, and that's been plenty to get enough for Springer 3 (just need to fill up the track), and have a surplus of a few toward the next thing. And that's with quite a few left to still get in the second map too! And I haven't even done any map specific achievements like the bounty ones yet.I didn't enjoy the chef one, though once you've tried it a few times and remember where the ingredients are it's not too bad. But aside from that I wouldn't class most of them as hard to get in any way (for anyone that struggles with the memory puzzle one you can just write the order down). If you need a few extra then there's even been quite a few LFGs listed where people have been allowing you to use a TP to friend to get some of the other ones, so worth a look there. As Illconceived Was Na has pointed out, there's already quite a large excess of points available. And I'm in agreement that at this stage of PoF I've also found it a lot quicker to accumulate more points than I had at this stage in HoT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healix.5819 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:There are at least 80 mastery points already available, far greater than the 52 to fully max the four masteries. 66 and fivehttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/71w35c/spoilers_hidden_mount/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 @Healix.5819 said:@"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:There are at least 80 mastery points already available, far greater than the 52 to fully max the four masteries. 66 and fivehttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/71w35c/spoilers_hidden_mount/ Fair enough, I don't have access to those details yet. The point remains:You can progress the story without most of those m-points.There are still more available m-points than are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladish.3940 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 You have to start exploring map, I have Canyon Jumping and a point to spare and I only just finished Crystal Oasis map. I still got 3 mastery points to get on this map, that I need other mounts for, but in no shape or form I felt like there isn't enough points to go around. I am not even doing achievements, just map exploration and story. Maybe stop rushing and try to do all you can on a map first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladish.3940 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 @Khisanth.2948 said:I like the fact that ArenaNet's response to players complaining about mastery gating is to make the gating even worse in their next expansion...I see no gating being worse. People need to learn to not rush through maps "to the end" and just explore too. I finished only Crystal Oasis and have points to spare, with mastery points still left on the map, so yeah.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaltys.7649 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 There's only four mastery points on the first map that are accessible without other mounts, and it takes six points to get the rabbit. So yeah, that's a problem, especially if you can't get the story to load. Like many of European players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Struggled pretty hard myself to get the last mastery point for raptor3, had to blow a teleport to friend to get one. Then it was smooth sailing, and i have an excess of them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan.5170 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Seriously? My problem has been too many mastery points, not enough experience progression. I have Raptor3, Bunny3, Wind Glider1, and 8 unused mastery points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 @Scipion.7548 said:Personnaly I don't know how to reach Raptor III. For the Sufuri quicksand master point (central north of crystal oasis map) it seems I need to boost my glider mastery (which is a HoT mastery, so I need to return to maguuma ...). The other points require the bunny or jackall unless you succeed to exploit with the raptor.So I have 2 options: return to maguuma or try exploits unexpected by Anet. Isnt that odd ? Or I missed something ?You missed something.I don't happen to have a list of the easiest mastery points yet, so I can't help directly, but I didn't use exploits and I don't remember having to use gliding to reach the m-points (although a couple were easier with gliding).If you have to, explore the entire map or go south. In a worst case scenario, you can use Teleport-to-Friend.Getting Raptor-3 is the most difficult hill to climb; once you unlock it and especially after getting the KangaBunny, you have access to a lot more m-points, more than you'll need right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipion.7548 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Ok thank you I will try to find that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyNewb.6789 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 You clearly don't take the timeTo try to find other ways. You want the brain dead easy jump. i currently have 13 extra mastery points and I have only done the first 2 maps. You just need to take a few extra minutes to find another way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladish.3940 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 @Zaltys.7649 said:There's only four mastery points on the first map that are accessible without other mounts, and it takes six points to get the rabbit. So yeah, that's a problem, especially if you can't get the story to load. Like many of European players. Yes, you are right, and with only those points and the story progression I am at Raptor3 with a point to spare... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siska.8102 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Okay so, Raptor 3 isn't the problem for me. It's rabbit 3. I have taken my time, tried many ways to get to inaccessible mastery points but still lacking the two mastery points I need to get to Rabbit 3. I'm seriously stumped. I didn't max out raptor either. I realized there would be an issue and switched mastery paths. So if anyone has anything truly helpful that would be great. I have all but The Kusini Crossing and Glint's Legacy MP in Crystal Oasis. Also two in Desert Highlands on the southwest edge of the zone. Also all the story ones I could get from Path 1 except for the last because...gated. The only ones I'm missing as far as I can tell are those awarded for collections, which are also gated by masteries. Sooooo....what am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimBilly.8047 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 That chef needs to quit running around is all I'm sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvari.2953 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 What I really don't like is that the story is heavily locked behind the mastery system! I need the 2nd mount to collect items just to continue the story but I need 4 more mastery points for that! In HoT, it was okay because I mostly only needed one mastery / line to continue story and there were easy mastery points to get but in PoF it's a pain in the kitten tail to get them. I want to enjoy the story without being interrupted by annoying mastery hunt! I don't care if I need mastery points to max mounts but do NOT lock story behind it, PLEASE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rognik.2579 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I agree that the early mastery points in the latest expansion is pretty sparse. I was even thinking, "Oh, I'll just get one soon because I'm about to finish The Sacrifice!" Nope, you have to get the springer before you can do the instance to complete the chapter, and none of the masteries in the Desert Highlands can be reached without the springer. So, there's the three mastery points you get from doing the story up to that point (three for finishing the chapters, plus one for unlocking raptors), and then mostly the mastery points in the Crystal Oasis. There are definitely enough, and a smorgasbord available once you get the springer, but getting that last mastery point or two is pretty tight. I'd have to double-check to see which ones I actually got to unlock canyon jumping, but I remember thinking that it was really tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaltys.7649 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 @Rognik.2579 said:So, there's the three mastery points you get from doing the story up to that point (three for finishing the chapters, plus one for unlocking raptors), and then mostly the mastery points in the Crystal Oasis. There are definitely enough, and a smorgasbord available once you get the springer, but getting that last mastery point or two is pretty tight.Yep. One from the chef, one from the memory game, another on the west edge of the map. The other three require new mounts, or gliding. And I very much doubt that many players will be able to figure out the quicksand mastery without consulting a guide, since it took a long time for the beta players to collectively solve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkprecure.6129 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Mastery Points are easy to get without the story. I only finished the Prologue and first story Mission and already have unlocked all 4 Mounts, Raptor Mastery 3/4, Springer Mastery 2/4, Skimmer Mastery 3/4 and Jackal just unlocked. Just explore and get every Mastery point you find. Especially the Vabbi ones are easy to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew.1865 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 @Enola B Twenty Nine.2631 said:I mean that I can't get to them by gliding, walking, or with a raptor that does not have level 3 mastery. I require a non-raptor mount, and I need the 3rd level canyon mastery to progress in the PoF story. You need this to get a Springer.I have been helping people get them on my Mesmer. Ask in map chat for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emprer.7256 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 really..? I kinda feel like I am showered with mps in pof maps though. Did you try doing the story and trying to get the respective mount whenever you go to a new map? I did that all the way through the last map and it helped me go from 180-213 now, still going. Also there might be HP&MP runs on LFG. They don't get run a lot since hps are made fairly soloable but I did it few times and got a handful of mps along the way with the help of mesmers' port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abakk.9176 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 In the first zone, under water in the harbor, is a very easy Mastery Point. All you have to do is swim down to get it.I think this one may be easily overlooked since it is in a not so obvious place. I experienced the same bottleneck that OP did and via Dulfy found out that i missed this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWolf.8670 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 @SimBilly.8047 said:That chef needs to quit running around is all I'm sayin'He visits the stations in the same order. If you have an ingredient and he's already at one then get in position to throw it to him at the next stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I found a friendly mesmer portaling me on top of two unreachable mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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