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I know this is an old subject, but I haven't seen it brought up for a really long time. It's the biggest thing missing for me, and it makes me sad every time I enter my "home instance" it's a neighborhood, not a home.. sheesh. I recently got a bunch of the cats and can't even find half of them in any of the instances, because they're all so big. Is it truly that hard to have an option of instancing one of the buildings in the cities, rather than a whole neighborhood?
Player housing has always been a part of games for me that I've enjoyed tinkering with. I realize some people have every single item and node available in the game, and could create some issues with placements... maybe a large courtyard or back yard? I dunno.. I mean, we did save the world and all, we can be afforded a large home I think! I've looked for other threads on the topic, but nothing comes up other than blogs from like 2014. Is this not an issue for most players? I don't really care if things remain auto-placement.. I just want to be able to find them in my own space. That's all. It just seems like it wouldn't take a whole lot of development, so I don't know why we still don't have homes.

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  • Almost all of the cats are on the (rather compact) ground floor of Dreamer's Terrace; have you tried looking there?

  • Zionka.6897Zionka.6897 Member ✭✭✭

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    Almost all of the cats are on the (rather compact) ground floor of Dreamer's Terrace; have you tried looking there?

    yes, dreamer's terrace is the one I usually use, because of the size, I see most there, but the ones with a pot I still haven't found, I'm wondering if I can only get them there during wintersday.. I did feed all 4 the heated soups, I dunno. And the other ones I guess I need to get the nodes for them to show up. But it all just reminded me how much I'd like a real home.

  • The soup pot cats are in the alcove to the left as you enter the instance. Next to where the cloth node is and Mender Aine.

  • Zionka.6897Zionka.6897 Member ✭✭✭

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    The soup pot cats are in the alcove to the left as you enter the instance. Next to where the cloth node is and Mender Aine.

    haha thank you, I found them! I just got them today, and I think I was wandering around the other city neighborhoods looking for it. It's a blur...

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Sorry to break it to you but these are very common subjects. And i advocate against them, strongly, not because i am necessarily against them, but because i believe anet does not have enough resources to keep the game running in its current model. A type of content that would add nothing but background drops but be very cost intensive for anet to make seems like a bad idea in my mind. I would recommend you get a guild hall and decorate that instead.
    Personally, i don't like player housing in online games as much as in single player games anyway.

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  • Dashiva.6149Dashiva.6149 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017

    I rather the devs to work on other content and driving the story forward BUT if it became a thing I would much rather see a overhaul of the Home District than making a new "zone".

    The concept of home districts were IMO good, but post launch its usefulness for storytelling has been mostly neglected. Now it is more a storage room that is littered with all manner of ugly nodes and event/seasonal object. It is like that one drawer I have at home that I add kitten I don't know where to put, but never bother to clean out because, suprise, it has so much kitten in it (it is a vicious cycle).

  • Zionka.6897Zionka.6897 Member ✭✭✭

    How is it cost intensive to make an existing house or building an instance? Black citadel is a perfect example of breaking what are essentially apartments into instances.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zionka.6897 said:
    How is it cost intensive to make an existing house or building an instance? Black citadel is a perfect example of breaking what are essentially apartments into instances.

    creating an instance isn't. But would you be satisfied with a small area with red borders, and with nothing to do in them? kinda pointless don't you think. You cant make half a thing and sell it. Either it's a home instance or it's not. And if it is, it requires mechanics and coding and that is all very cost intensive

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    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
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  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I would not mind having this feature, I enjoyed it in Skyrim. Although I would not expect it to be anything similar, the concept could still be fun, I don't know how practical it would be, but who knows. It could certainly bring in some extra revenue for Anet.

    Guild halls feel like the Closet of GW, acting more like a storage space for decorations. Home instances don't give you the feeling like its your own space, and you cannot do anything with it, aside from adding items.

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • Zionka.6897Zionka.6897 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Zionka.6897 said:
    How is it cost intensive to make an existing house or building an instance? Black citadel is a perfect example of breaking what are essentially apartments into instances.

    But would you be satisfied with a small area with red borders, and with nothing to do in them?

    Yes, yes I would, if it was an actual home instance and not a neighborhood instance. it's not like the current setup has anything to do in it. The only difference between the current and what I'd like to see is size and feel. Also I'm not looking at this as something to pay for, although I could deal with a "rent" I guess. Rather just an added option for normal game content. I guess I'm a minority though, in wishing for it. Also, the guild I'm in only has a few players, and even though we formed on launch day, still have no hall... Maybe that's why I'm yearning for something like this. Hmmm how about a small guild clubhouse?? hmm? yeah! claim with just a couple people. Oh that's another thread.

  • Fully agree with you OP. I rarely go to my home instance as it just doesn't feel like a 'home', it has no personal feel to it. The current home instances feel too big for one player, and even with extra nodes and stuff there's not really anything in it anyway. A single house would be much nicer imo.

    I'd love it if we could have an instanced actual house, the nodes could still move across, could be lined up out front, or have a room for them, probably lose the vendors but I don't really see that as an issue. Of course if they added some way to personalise it like how we can with guild halls (which are way too big for 1 player, before people try to say use one of those as a house!) then that would be ideal.

    I'm sure there are existing buildings in cities that could be used (or that occupy a space where they could be replaced with a suitable one). I'd prefer it if the houses were available in the open world (still as an instance to enter), I've said in the past the option to buy a house in the starting areas would be nice. But at the moment I think I'd settle for any form of housing.

  • I spend like half an hour in my "home" to find a spot that's not occupied by a random npc. Is there no privacy in this game? ;)
    I seem to not have a home inside my home.

  • I would have to say Norn got the best housing, don't really need upper floor but it's not hard to travel around.
    Asura's got second for me quick and simple yet there is one hell of a waterfall and the map is really simple with node layout, only downfall is unlike the Norn it lacks a proper vendor.
    Charr is third though it's really a toss up between them and the Sylvari. To much travel just to get to the nodes.
    Probably the worst is the humans, it's basically a village and that makes it harder to travel quickly. Wish they would let us use mounts in there, would minimize much of the excessive travel.

  • Tasida.4085Tasida.4085 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017

    Another housing link? smh......keep it out of GW 2 and let them focus on more engaging content, NOT fluff.

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  • Tekoneiric.6817Tekoneiric.6817 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I would have been happy if PoF had one less mount and we got a homestead or Dragon's Watch guild hall option instead. I think the jackal really wasn't needed and only added because they insisted on putting in sand portals. If they had updrafts and the griffon supported it we really wouldn't need sand portals. A few places would have had to be slightly different. Sand portal access for walking, gliding or using other mounts could have just been on it's own mastery track.

  • Klowdy.3126Klowdy.3126 Member ✭✭✭

    @Zionka.6897 said:

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Zionka.6897 said:
    How is it cost intensive to make an existing house or building an instance? Black citadel is a perfect example of breaking what are essentially apartments into instances.

    But would you be satisfied with a small area with red borders, and with nothing to do in them?

    Yes, yes I would, if it was an actual home instance and not a neighborhood instance. it's not like the current setup has anything to do in it. The only difference between the current and what I'd like to see is size and feel. Also I'm not looking at this as something to pay for, although I could deal with a "rent" I guess. Rather just an added option for normal game content. I guess I'm a minority though, in wishing for it. Also, the guild I'm in only has a few players, and even though we formed on launch day, still have no hall... Maybe that's why I'm yearning for something like this. Hmmm how about a small guild clubhouse?? hmm? yeah! claim with just a couple people. Oh that's another thread.

    What Aya was saying is there would need to be textures added, and have a new system put in place to move things (all decorations) in every position at very least to be an actual home instance.

    I have never understood player housing, myself. If you want to play the Sims, go play it. This a hack and slash RPG, so play that game. Not every game needs to be the same. We have guild housing in place, I would prefer to see combat and world mechanics that have been buggy for so long to be fixed, or more balance between classes (renegade SB) before a second, separate form of housing implemented.

  • Zionka.6897Zionka.6897 Member ✭✭✭

    It's not about wanting to play sims, it's about having a well-rounded experience. Tyria is my home.. it's the only MMO I play now. I don't like PvP, yet I'm not on that forum saying you are just a bunch of whiners.. lol. People enjoy different aspects of games. If I made Tyria my home, I'd just like one.. That's all I'm sayin'.

  • My home is the guild hall(s).
    I have 0 use for a actual home in the game.

    And if not the guild halls, pretty much the cemetery in Shaemoor.

  • Zionka.6897Zionka.6897 Member ✭✭✭

    My last post here, I need to go to bed! I just want to make clear I'm not visualizing a home I'm decorating and "playing house" in. All I hope for is the same mechanics as current home instance, just a different setting inside a pre-existing structure. Many are already furnished houses. The items and nodes currently in what we have would just be auto-placed in the home area. The only one I see a problem with is the sylvari.. Something functional might have to be added for that one to work. But if something like this ever does get looked at, and granted, even to me it's nothing of great importance, just a wish list thing, I'd be surprised if the same people who work on balance and bugs are the same people who work on this type of thing.

  • Myrdreth.6829Myrdreth.6829 Member ✭✭✭

    I would love to get my own home :< Black Desert Online did a really good job with their home instances in my opinion. You could choose a home of your choice in a city or village of your liking and then furnish it.

  • TheUndefined.1720TheUndefined.1720 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017

    I remember when the game was launching this was a key feature they were mentioning; Player homes where you could bring out your miniatures to roam around, put up trophies, I -think- they mentioned about displaying armor / weapons kind of like back in gw1? < that last bit might just be me making it up.

    I think they should add a base free home in the home instance for your character to have a house. I really like the inclusive characters from your story, but they kind of ended that with the starter zone story. I think that the player's home / instance should be continually updated throughout their entire story - Treasures / npcs / paintings from their faction / alliance (Whispers, Vigil, Priory), Orrian artifacts, Heart of Thorns stuff, Living World items.. etc.

    Also, a library to read all of the scattered volumes in the game would be nice.

    For real money houses / bought with in game gold houses, I would suggest taking Elder Scrolls Online's model. You can buy them with the in game gold or real money, all of the houses are instanced (so no worry about stressing your players out with rushing to buy up all plots - looking at you FFXIV), and overall it added a lot of revenue / players back into the game. Just dropping this link here...

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    One thing they can do is add collections and achievements to unlock stuff to build homes. I think that would drive a lot of activity.

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Even if I wouldn't do much with it, it'd be nice to have a spot of my own. A place for our achievements to get screen time, and an alternative way to make use of Scribe. As characters, we've done a lot of good for the various communities in the world, so maybe a few places could have plots of land we could build up: A loft in Lion's Arch with a view of the water, a mansion in DivReach, an office in a barracks of Black Citadel, or an outpost near Amnoon.
    It'd be a fantastic in game reward. :+1:

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  • Alga.6498Alga.6498 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I haven't visit my ''home'' for almost 4 years now I think? Superboring instance, nothing to do and urrrrghh.
    And yes, I have completed each races storylines multiple times. So ofc I've been there but I wouldn't call that instance ''home''.

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  • @Tasida.4085 said:
    Another housing link? smh......keep it out of GW 2 and let them focus on more engaging content, NOT fluff.

    More FLUFF! We need FLUFF!!

  • @Alga.6498 said:
    I haven't visit my ''home'' for almost 4 years now I think? Superboring instance, nothing to do and urrrrghh.
    And yes, I have completed each races storylines multiple times. So ofc I've been there but I wouldn't call that instance ''home''.

    Give it to me !!

  • Blude.6812Blude.6812 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zionka.6897 said:
    I know this is an old subject, but I haven't seen it brought up for a really long time. It's the biggest thing missing for me, and it makes me sad every time I enter my "home instance" it's a neighborhood, not a home.. sheesh. I recently got a bunch of the cats and can't even find half of them in any of the instances, because they're all so big. Is it truly that hard to have an option of instancing one of the buildings in the cities, rather than a whole neighborhood?
    Player housing has always been a part of games for me that I've enjoyed tinkering with. I realize some people have every single item and node available in the game, and could create some issues with placements... maybe a large courtyard or back yard? I dunno.. I mean, we did save the world and all, we can be afforded a large home I think! I've looked for other threads on the topic, but nothing comes up other than blogs from like 2014. Is this not an issue for most players? I don't really care if things remain auto-placement.. I just want to be able to find them in my own space. That's all. It just seems like it wouldn't take a whole lot of development, so I don't know why we still don't have homes.

    Yep it's an old subject and not worth revisiting . Except for placement of the lost bandit chest (on a side the devs can't even be bothered to make them visible in some placements). Bottom line all nodes are easy to find in a home instance once a player has been through there home instance a couple of time. Bottom line it's not worth the dev to make or to change something that is soooooooooooooooooooooooo easy to do. Don't need to waste any dev time making a 'home' that already exists.

  • Anchoku.8142Anchoku.8142 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017

    Hmm, if there was a room with a television that I could /sit in front of and watch PvP matches from my home instance, I might pay gems for it.

    Hopefully, not all of Scarlet's stuff was destroyed.

  • @Anchoku.8142 said:
    Hmm, if there was a room with a television that I could /sit in front of and watch PvP matches from my home instance, I might pay gems for it.

    Hopefully, not all of Scarlet's stuff was destroyed.

    Just ask the Asurans in the Fractal area to let you watch players.
    I mean, they're already monitoring you when you're in there... just ask them if you can move in. Instant home.

  • Dreamy Lu.3865Dreamy Lu.3865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I would really love that little guilds who can't go for claiming concept, could have an alternative they can simply take by default. A sort of base camp, with a minimum of features available and no possibility to upgrade, so that it does counter in no way the GH concept, but simply allows that every guild could have a home.

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  • Squee.7829Squee.7829 Member ✭✭✭

    It is an old subject! But so is mounts. And guess what we have now! Don't give up hope!

  • Nuka Cola.8520Nuka Cola.8520 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2017

    Don't worry, i believe its the next big thing they'll add in the next expansion. Want to repaint walls with a "rare" paint? 100 gems, sir. Want different lighting? 300 gems, sir. please be excited.

    I want meaningful content, not decorating a house and then stand in it asking yourself why i even bought the expansion.

  • Dreamy Lu.3865Dreamy Lu.3865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Nuka Cola.8520 said:
    Don't worry, i believe its the next big thing they'll add in the next expansion. Want to repaint walls with a "rare" paint? 100 gems, sir. Want different lighting? 300 gems, sir. please be excited.

    I want meaningful content, not decorating a house and then stand in it asking yourself why i even bought the expansion.

    Wait to get more info about content. Maybe you will have a good surprise? :)

    Re decoration for home instance: Personally, I would be happy about and I believe it is nice if an expansion pack contains different things, so that different type of wishes are fulfilled.

    Re purchasing at BL with gems... Well, it is optional. Nobody is forced to it. Depending on amount of gems, I will decide if I go for it or not, with the background thinking that since it is a cost free game, I am happy to support once in awhile via spending at BL.

    I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message...

  • Eloc Freidon.5692Eloc Freidon.5692 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yes. The biggest feature, at least in the leak, that didn't make it for the expansion is an actual home instance system. Seems like it was what we were going to get instead of major Guild updates.

  • I would love it but it shouldnt take away the players from player hubs. Make it complete optional or something.

  • Erulogos.2591Erulogos.2591 Member ✭✭✭

    MMO characters, like the D&D characters of old who inspired them, are a pack of murder hobos. Forever cursed to wander and slaughter.

  • Zakka.2153Zakka.2153 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2017

    I'd like them to add a system similar to guild halls, One for each city that you can "own" and decorate similar to guild halls. They would be smaller yet you be able to place items anywhere similar to guild halls.

  • Squee.7829Squee.7829 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2017

    I'm fine with being homeless. I'm not picky. But I just adopted like 20 something cats and they need a place to stay. If you're not willing to house the heroes of Tyria, at least consider their cats!

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