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Open all servers

Boshey.4769Boshey.4769 Member
edited December 28, 2017 in WvW

Since most of the servers are always open might as well open all of them.

Open all servers 143 votes

Yeah
39% 57 votes
Nay
60% 86 votes

Comments

  • Please vote since this is a private poll no-one will see results thanks

  • @Boshey.4769 said:
    Since most of the servers are always open might as well open all of them.

    If servers were opened or closed by popular demand, then sure, that logic would apply.

    However, the reason ANet locks transfers is to help balance matches. If people aren't moving off of certain worlds towards the "lower pop" ones, then there are still reasons to keep them closed.

    "Face the facts. Then act on them. It's ...the only doctrine I have to offer you, & it's harder than you'd think, because I swear humans seem hardwired to do anything but. Face the facts. Don't pray, don't wish, ...FACE THE FACTS. THEN act." — Quellcrist Falconer

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Server locks and thresholds are important. The algorithms need to be adjusted over time, this is the more controversial issue.

    BG

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yes, people should play on any server they want unless it has 24/7 queues on all maps

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Yes, people should play on any server they want unless it has 24/7 queues on all maps

    That would require a time machine.

    BG

  • Loosmaster.8263Loosmaster.8263 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Open them all and just deal with the ques. I don't think anything will fix population issues.

    Fàther - Create a mount then kill it until it's more useless than PvE. "Smart"
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  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Another derailing post. ^^
    EBG North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed!
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • Dreamy Lu.3865Dreamy Lu.3865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Like many posters before, I think that closing world as Anet do for now remains the most reliable alternative, until a different concept working better is worked out.

    I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message...

  • @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2017

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    Forgive me, but, doesn't seem like you all want out of tier one like the other servers have been fighting (or rather "not fighting") to do.

    Also, didn't say SoS was stacked currently, just saying they should create a tier for people to stack, with the known stacked server, the server that wants to be stacked again, and the other server that's sitting in tier one for a while now and again, doesn't look like they care to leave tier one like everyone else.

    P.S I think people are still scared of server stacking, when in the last year we have seen no guilds wanting to super stack a server to compete in tier one, in fact most of them have been moving to the mid tiers. Where guilds move, the pugs will sometimes follow, wave of pugs don't tend to move unless a server is sinking or a good amount of guilds are moving.

    Another derailing post. ^^
    EBG North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed!
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • With this link system population never will be fixed. Everyone who has money will be transfering to servers which are linked with full servers( a lot of ppl=more karmatrain/lootbags), after relink if your server will be linked to the trash server, people just transfer again somewhere else. This is not solution for fix population. This situation just brings more money for Anet (gems for transfer), but its killing servers. Lot of people crying that Anet killed server proud, so why we cant get a new servers? Completely restart of WvW?

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    yes. let people stack so there be be new blood. so eotm has a use. so empty sercers can be merged or deleted.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Rumba.3174Rumba.3174 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2017

    yeah lets watch all go into the current leading server and watch them have no one to fight due to all are on the same server.
    Well done you pressed the self destruct button for WvW.

    Seafarer's Rest [EU]

  • Kamara.4187Kamara.4187 Member ✭✭✭

    Its bad enough having to be rotated into the Host que-fest blobbers without letting them cannibalize the last of the smaller servers....There seriously is no satisfying you guys....

    "Love thy enemy, for without them there would be no WvW."

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    I feel really bad for SoS, you guys look worn out. It was more fun when you guys were full. Personally speaking, I would rather keep Mag up here in tier 1, so SoS can get a breather lol.

    BG

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    I feel really bad for SoS, you guys look worn out. It was more fun when you guys were full. Personally speaking, I would rather keep Mag up here in tier 1, so SoS can get a breather lol.

    lol I'm sure you know Mags answer to this by now.

    Another derailing post. ^^
    EBG North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed!
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • GDchiaScrub.3241GDchiaScrub.3241 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Radical idea here. Let's all transfer to linked servers and let the government ANET take care of things from here. Forget "Host" servers.

    Holy Warriors of [Kazo] following Kazo doctrine guided by, Our Lord and Commander, Zudo in the holy Trinity of Him and his two firm glutes.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    if worn out, take a break. why? so you can foght fresh next time.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:
    Radical idea here. Let's all transfer to linked servers and let the government ANET take care of things from here. Forget "Host" servers.

    $$$ working as intended $$$

    Power > Condition

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    I feel really bad for SoS, you guys look worn out. It was more fun when you guys were full. Personally speaking, I would rather keep Mag up here in tier 1, so SoS can get a breather lol.

    lol I'm sure you know Mags answer to this by now.

    Yes but I'm ok with it B)

    And just think about it, Mag can have that shiny blue bl, mmm all that sexy snow =)

    BG

  • Optimator.3589Optimator.3589 Member ✭✭✭

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    I feel really bad for SoS, you guys look worn out. It was more fun when you guys were full. Personally speaking, I would rather keep Mag up here in tier 1, so SoS can get a breather lol.

    lol I'm sure you know Mags answer to this by now.

    Yes but I'm ok with it B)

    And just think about it, Mag can have that shiny blue bl, mmm all that sexy snow =)

    My answer involves kittens. Lots of kittens. The less time spent with BG PPT cancer lords the better.

    REDUCE NA TO 3 TIERS

  • Exo.2143Exo.2143 Member ✭✭

    Horrible idea. You know that everybody will just transfer to the #1/#2 server in EU or NA (depending on where you live) and the situation will actually get worse.

  • zinkz.7045zinkz.7045 Member ✭✭✭

    @Exo.2143 said:
    Horrible idea. You know that everybody will just transfer to the #1/#2 server in EU or NA (depending on where you live) and the situation will actually get worse.

    You either don't play much WvW or play NA, if you think that is how EU works these days.

  • Exo.2143Exo.2143 Member ✭✭

    @zinkz.7045 said:

    @Exo.2143 said:
    Horrible idea. You know that everybody will just transfer to the #1/#2 server in EU or NA (depending on where you live) and the situation will actually get worse.

    You either don't play much WvW or play NA, if you think that is how EU works these days.

    That's my point. Anyone who doesn't play WvW currently and wants to get into it, would want to get carried. Thus resulting in a wave of new players coming in with the hope of ultimate rewards and loot. You will get huge queues for weeks (months maybe?) while the people you have currently playing won't be able to join.

    Or are you gonna tell me that this is NOT what happened after the reward system rework of WvW? My server had queues that would make me be able to watch the complete Lord of the Rings extended trilogy.

  • joneirikb.7506joneirikb.7506 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If they're first going to do this, they might as well:

    • Open ALL servers
    • AND remove all transfer cost.

    And watch BG cry alone in T1, as everyone just transfers to whatever servers are in T2 every week. It could be kinda amusing.

    Elrik Noj (Norn Guardian, Kaineng [SIN][Owls])
    "Understanding is a three edged sword: your side, their side, and the truth." - J. Michael Straczynski
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  • hunkamania.7561hunkamania.7561 Member ✭✭✭

    How about remove all servers? Do something else that makes this game mode more fun

    Ferguson's Crossing Server Leader

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    VR

  • @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    Forgive me, but, doesn't seem like you all want out of tier one like the other servers have been fighting (or rather "not fighting") to do.

    Also, didn't say SoS was stacked currently, just saying they should create a tier for people to stack, with the known stacked server, the server that wants to be stacked again, and the other server that's sitting in tier one for a while now and again, doesn't look like they care to leave tier one like everyone else.

    P.S I think people are still scared of server stacking, when in the last year we have seen no guilds wanting to super stack a server to compete in tier one, in fact most of them have been moving to the mid tiers. Where guilds move, the pugs will sometimes follow, wave of pugs don't tend to move unless a server is sinking or a good amount of guilds are moving.

    We don't want out of Tier 1, necessarily. We want to play wvw. We appear to be trapped between BG and the other servers' mad scramble to lose.

  • @X T D.6458 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    I feel really bad for SoS, you guys look worn out. It was more fun when you guys were full. Personally speaking, I would rather keep Mag up here in tier 1, so SoS can get a breather lol.

    You'd have better luck letting Mag keep doing their tank yo yo thing and keeping DB or whoever the next #3 team is as the new kidnap victim.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @hunkamania.7561 said:
    How about remove all servers? Do something else that makes this game mode more fun

    Wich for most of gw2 WvW players means... all stack in one sever, mega blob PVD ktrain.

  • @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    Forgive me, but, doesn't seem like you all want out of tier one like the other servers have been fighting (or rather "not fighting") to do.

    Also, didn't say SoS was stacked currently, just saying they should create a tier for people to stack, with the known stacked server, the server that wants to be stacked again, and the other server that's sitting in tier one for a while now and again, doesn't look like they care to leave tier one like everyone else.

    P.S I think people are still scared of server stacking, when in the last year we have seen no guilds wanting to super stack a server to compete in tier one, in fact most of them have been moving to the mid tiers. Where guilds move, the pugs will sometimes follow, wave of pugs don't tend to move unless a server is sinking or a good amount of guilds are moving.

    We don't want out of Tier 1, necessarily. We want to play wvw. We appear to be trapped between BG and the other servers' mad scramble to lose.

    Actually BG is holding them hostage (was SoS's little brother server up until the 22nd so we got to escape) by making sure they come in 2nd. Its allot easier for BG to do that match manipulation of focusing whoever just came up to T1 to keep them in 3rd and SoS in 2nd and then they only have one tougher target to focus on. I remember one week there were a few commanders literally trying to feed bags to Mag, which as we all know Mag loves bags.

    #nornmodeisbestmode

  • That would be such a huge cluster kitten if they opened all servers. My vote is simply No.

  • @Red Haired Savage.5430 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    Forgive me, but, doesn't seem like you all want out of tier one like the other servers have been fighting (or rather "not fighting") to do.

    Also, didn't say SoS was stacked currently, just saying they should create a tier for people to stack, with the known stacked server, the server that wants to be stacked again, and the other server that's sitting in tier one for a while now and again, doesn't look like they care to leave tier one like everyone else.

    P.S I think people are still scared of server stacking, when in the last year we have seen no guilds wanting to super stack a server to compete in tier one, in fact most of them have been moving to the mid tiers. Where guilds move, the pugs will sometimes follow, wave of pugs don't tend to move unless a server is sinking or a good amount of guilds are moving.

    We don't want out of Tier 1, necessarily. We want to play wvw. We appear to be trapped between BG and the other servers' mad scramble to lose.

    Actually BG is holding them hostage (was SoS's little brother server up until the 22nd so we got to escape) by making sure they come in 2nd. Its allot easier for BG to do that match manipulation of focusing whoever just came up to T1 to keep them in 3rd and SoS in 2nd and then they only have one tougher target to focus on. I remember one week there were a few commanders literally trying to feed bags to Mag, which as we all know Mag loves bags.

    IOJ NUUUUUU WE MISS YOOOUUUU... I understand, though. Not getting to fight anyone but Blackgate forever and ever and ever is really dull.

  • ReaverKane.7598ReaverKane.7598 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The only way to fix WvW would be a time machine.
    There should have been an incentive to stay with your initial server, so that the bonus from being on your initial server would counter bandwagoning.
    Without this i don't think there will ever be a way to fix it, and adding that incentive now would be useless since the bandwagoning has already occurred and it isn't likely that enough people will join the game to counter that.

  • Loosmaster.8263Loosmaster.8263 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    I feel really bad for SoS, you guys look worn out. It was more fun when you guys were full. Personally speaking, I would rather keep Mag up here in tier 1, so SoS can get a breather lol.

    You'd have better luck letting Mag keep doing their tank yo yo thing and keeping DB or whoever the next #3 team is as the new kidnap victim.

    As long as DR is linked to Mag, that won't happen.

    Fàther - Create a mount then kill it until it's more useless than PvE. "Smart"
    Tactical Killers
    Server(DR)

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    I feel really bad for SoS, you guys look worn out. It was more fun when you guys were full. Personally speaking, I would rather keep Mag up here in tier 1, so SoS can get a breather lol.

    You'd have better luck letting Mag keep doing their tank yo yo thing and keeping DB or whoever the next #3 team is as the new kidnap victim.

    DB medium pop...don't be cruel :'(

    BG

  • Im on a FULL server which is locked (over 1 year already), lost countless guilds because we have also been unlinked in that year, but definitely not full although we are linked this MU against 2 servers that are also linked, (but both are open servers.) but they blob us and we are outnumbered on half our bl's, and we cant get people to transfer. I realise the algorithms are being adjusted over time, but surely their has to be a better or smarter way to adjust populations. I realise its a dilemma, but maybe the team can get around a table and brainstorm this, or just unlock servers for a 1 week period, then lock them for 3 months again. That way theirs a transfer 4 times per year for all servers and will stop all the jumping around, but apply this to all servers, so you locked in for 3 months if you decide to transfer.

  • RodOfDeath.5247RodOfDeath.5247 Member ✭✭✭

    No
    Body is 8 characters too short.

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Red Haired Savage.5430 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    Forgive me, but, doesn't seem like you all want out of tier one like the other servers have been fighting (or rather "not fighting") to do.

    Also, didn't say SoS was stacked currently, just saying they should create a tier for people to stack, with the known stacked server, the server that wants to be stacked again, and the other server that's sitting in tier one for a while now and again, doesn't look like they care to leave tier one like everyone else.

    P.S I think people are still scared of server stacking, when in the last year we have seen no guilds wanting to super stack a server to compete in tier one, in fact most of them have been moving to the mid tiers. Where guilds move, the pugs will sometimes follow, wave of pugs don't tend to move unless a server is sinking or a good amount of guilds are moving.

    We don't want out of Tier 1, necessarily. We want to play wvw. We appear to be trapped between BG and the other servers' mad scramble to lose.

    Actually BG is holding them hostage (was SoS's little brother server up until the 22nd so we got to escape) by making sure they come in 2nd. Its allot easier for BG to do that match manipulation of focusing whoever just came up to T1 to keep them in 3rd and SoS in 2nd and then they only have one tougher target to focus on. I remember one week there were a few commanders literally trying to feed bags to Mag, which as we all know Mag loves bags.

    I would rather keep mag here, because some of our pugs deserve to get farmed. We have too many selfish players who refuse to get real builds, refuse to get out of their zerker gear, refuse to use appropriate consumables, refuse to stop using magic find food. Those players deserve to get farmed. It is just pathetic to watch.

    BG

  • WvW is truly in a state right now, probably the worst it has ever been. The gridlock, the way we get ignored, the condis. IDK if it can really recover. Opening everything would at least let the community sort itself, but if they really aim to look at population..... it had better be sooner vs later. The game mode is bleeding people by the day.

  • diamondgirl.6315diamondgirl.6315 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @Red Haired Savage.5430 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @diamondgirl.6315 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I'm fine with opening them all.
    If people want to rotfstomp servers with BG and JQ so be it, they'll be in tier 1 at least. Maybe anet can take 1u1d off and let us build the tier 1 wall again.
    Better yet you can leave 1u1d just pick the 3 servers to create a separate tier 1 by themselves, BG JQ SoS seems good, all servers will be open for transfers to wherever anyways, just let the stackers play in their own tier. Then maybe everyone else can create some balance out of the rest of the tiers.

    Pardon me, SoS is not stacked, SoS is open. We are like BG's hostage.

    Forgive me, but, doesn't seem like you all want out of tier one like the other servers have been fighting (or rather "not fighting") to do.

    Also, didn't say SoS was stacked currently, just saying they should create a tier for people to stack, with the known stacked server, the server that wants to be stacked again, and the other server that's sitting in tier one for a while now and again, doesn't look like they care to leave tier one like everyone else.

    P.S I think people are still scared of server stacking, when in the last year we have seen no guilds wanting to super stack a server to compete in tier one, in fact most of them have been moving to the mid tiers. Where guilds move, the pugs will sometimes follow, wave of pugs don't tend to move unless a server is sinking or a good amount of guilds are moving.

    We don't want out of Tier 1, necessarily. We want to play wvw. We appear to be trapped between BG and the other servers' mad scramble to lose.

    Actually BG is holding them hostage (was SoS's little brother server up until the 22nd so we got to escape) by making sure they come in 2nd. Its allot easier for BG to do that match manipulation of focusing whoever just came up to T1 to keep them in 3rd and SoS in 2nd and then they only have one tougher target to focus on. I remember one week there were a few commanders literally trying to feed bags to Mag, which as we all know Mag loves bags.

    I would rather keep mag here, because some of our pugs deserve to get farmed. We have too many selfish players who refuse to get real builds, refuse to get out of their zerker gear, refuse to use appropriate consumables, refuse to stop using magic find food. Those players deserve to get farmed. It is just pathetic to watch.

    I get where you are coming from; a lot has been said about the state of our pugs in recent weeks. I am one of those idealists who thinks we can have some success training some of them up. I know there will always be a few washouts, but if we can turn some of them into, for example, good scouts, I am willing to give them a chance.

    EDIT - Oh, you are BG? Yeah, if the quality of your pug corps is declining, and they are just riding on the server's name, let them get beaten up for a bit. You don't want to be carrying them forever; it will cause an eventual decline in server quality.

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭

    I would rather see a poll to delete all servers and try again. But Anet would delete that thread in 0.02 seconds.

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