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The REAL december power rankings of PvP in EU

aniratac.7159aniratac.7159 Member ✭✭
edited January 6, 2018 in PVP

These power rankings of PvP are based on observable performance and objective results such as solo queue experience, tournament exposure, mechanical skill, rotational knowledge, decision making and effective communication. Inactive players have been excluded from the list to promote participation in the community.

This list was made in response to the clearly biased list made by the french mafia which is very innacurate. I think that this list is still not 100% accurate, but still probably the most accurate list so far.

The objective of this list is to make the most possible accurate power rankings in order to motivate people to get better at the game, considering that the in game leaderboards are irrelevant for multiple reasons.

Thief
Sindrener: 94
Aieone: 90
Hybrid: 88
Kazers: 87
Koffee: 86
Vallun: 85
Sizer: 84
Der Assassin: 83
Fave: 82
Ayzro (staff): 80
Bykult: 78
Garkos: 76
Silencia: 70
Roxas: 60

Mesmer
Misha: 95
Frostball: 93
Kaazers: 86
Cazar: 84
Hybrid: 83
Jyaim: 82
Xyron: 81
Zenvo: 78
Bychitz: 76
Bambou: 75
Hitalok: 60

Necro
Sinid: 93
Imda: 91
Farror: 90
Thijsken: 89
Prototype: 87
Solmat: 86
Posi: 86
Wing: 85
Azurrs: 84
Aya Huasca: 84
Hollts: 82
Alwies: 81
Arturjkee: 81
Eriae: 80
Deathok: 80
Ace: 79
KOKOS BANANE: 78
Domoscrub: 77
Lil Emo Girl: 76
Tekk: 75
Ziltoid: 60

Druid
Xomi: 91
Boyce: 89
Lefrere: 87
Kees flodder: 86
Lorddavito: 84
Stronlo: 83
Miaz: 83
Pedrohirsch: 81
Corz: 80
Trekolon: 78
Loca: 75
Athanielle: 73
Corey: 72
Oultimazura: 65
Dannyboy: 60

Guardian (firebrand)
Mancow: 93
Slash: 90
Crann: 88
Cookie: 87
Kris: 87
Borntolead: 86
Chaton: 85
Blackjack: 84
Tolfdir (dh/core): 83
Grimkram (core): 81
Kranox: 79
Chunsu: 78
Rezia: 77
Mikado: 60

Engineer
Zan: 95
Ebrush: 91
Lary pe: 90
Thijsken: 89
Lex: 86
Josh: 85
Angeels: 84
Arturjkee: 83
Floodi: 82
Makarow: 79
Oximiron: 77

Warrior
Vaans: 93
Boyce: 93
Goku: 89
Obindo: 87
Tramadex: 86
Thybz: 85
Dragons warden: 84
Iriel: 83
Rayzen: 81
Symmetries: 80
Zorg: 80
Aby: 79
Ajaxx: 76
Roberto: 74

Revenant
Lyssa: 90
Azurrs: 87
Frostball (nacked): 86
Trekon: 84
Tenebrae: 83
Briseis: 82
Butcher: 81
Cream Cheeze:79
Edson: 76

Elementalist
Farror(f/a): 90
Crann: 89
Quadrel(s/d weaver): 87
Elemelentalist: 85
Frostball(nacked f/a): 84
Avenseen: 80
Faenor: 78
Cellofrag: 70

If you think I forgot someone in this list, feel free to tell. Share your opinions and keep it constructive.

Comments

  • Enjoy! For the better of our community <3

  • Once again i'm not in the engi section, another wrong list yay :(

  • Loop.8106Loop.8106 Member ✭✭✭

    Why does the guardian list only include Firebrands?

    Slam Jammed self proclaimed strongest core guardian on this side of the atlantic.

  • @Vebryan.7549 said:
    Once again i'm not in the engi section, another wrong list yay :(

    feelsbadman but u would have 101 rating, thats prolly why u are not on this list =(

  • Nila.7813Nila.7813 Member ✭✭

    This list is worse than the TFM's list honestly. I mean 50% of the people mentioned are not even playing. Youre meme game is trash and youre obviously pushing your biased agenda because you got salty from that first list lol. Also putting Josh at 85 is a crime against humanity

  • Falan.1839Falan.1839 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2018

    @Vebryan.7549 said:
    Once again i'm not in the engi section, another wrong list yay :(

    We can cry together in the disregarded engi corner. :(

    At least this list tries to be objective though, instead of just putting your own friendslist + a few "stars" from top teams on there to make it look objective. :D That doesn't mean I agree with all of it, Blackjack is underrated imo, so is Floodi probably and even Miaz. Also Boyce overrated on Druid imo. But it's hard to agree on that stuff anyway.

    "When you say it's gonna happen "now"
    When exactly do you mean?
    See I've already waited too long
    And all my hope is gone"
    The Smiths about mAT return and PvP content

  • Lilyanna.9361Lilyanna.9361 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Who the hell are half of these people?

    Are these even ESL people, or just the new fotm guys since the old ones left?

  • Kicast.1459Kicast.1459 Member ✭✭✭

    How is this list built ?
    Stats ?
    Coming from which source ?

  • Flauvious.6195Flauvious.6195 Member ✭✭✭

    The feeling when there's more necros than revs and eles combined =(

  • @aniratac.7159 said:
    The objective of this list is to make the most possible accurate power rankings in order to motivate people to get better at the game, considering that the in game leaderboards are irrelevant for multiple reasons.

    This list is actually even more irrelevant than the in-game leaderboards.

  • I see some serious questions asked. I just wanna say that this is a meme btw.

    just for clarification

  • Makarow.3028Makarow.3028 Member ✭✭
    edited January 4, 2018

    It's funny I've played whole season as Scourge only :smiley: and I am rated as engi (indeed, played it during S3-S7 and half of S8 before PoF's relase).
    Seems my Scrapper is still 'legendary' in people's minds :sunglasses:

    Seems like I need to stream tourney's more often, so maybe people get used to my new Scourge (Nynxia).

    I am not engi in this rating lul

  • a list of top players whose foundation is streaming popularity... I cannot see where the problem lies...

  • Keyba.9570Keyba.9570 Member ✭✭✭

    @Makarow.3028 said:
    It's funny I've played whole season as Scourge only :smiley: and I am rated as engi (indeed, played it during S3-S7 and half of S8 before PoF's relase).
    Seems my Scrapper is still 'legendary' in people's minds :sunglasses:

    Seems like I need to stream tourney's more often, so maybe people get used to my new Scourge (Nynxia).

    I am not engi in this rating lul

    Omg this like a leaderboards should...rank 30 legendary division...NA had around 10 in total...

  • :'( feelsbadman

  • Feelshonoredman, but again, professions are listed in order of relevance or what? =)

  • aniratac.7159aniratac.7159 Member ✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018

    @Loop.8106 said:
    Why does the guardian list only include Firebrands?

    Because, like it or not, firebrand is meta and there isn't many relevant players playing other guardian builds in my perspective.

    @Nila.7813 said:
    This list is worse than the TFM's list honestly. I mean 50% of the people mentioned are not even playing. Youre meme game is trash and youre obviously pushing your biased agenda because you got salty from that first list lol. Also putting Josh at 85 is a crime against humanity

    I tried to make this list as accurate as possible. Mind telling me who are those people considered inactive to you? Also, explain better why you think Josh shouldn't be at 85 and what rating should he have instead?

    @Falan.1839 said:

    @Vebryan.7549 said:
    Once again i'm not in the engi section, another wrong list yay :(

    We can cry together in the disregarded engi corner. :(

    I might have missed some players, mind telling me your character name or something? Might make it easier to remember who you are and judge from there.

    @HeadCrowned.6834 said:

    @aniratac.7159 said:
    The objective of this list is to make the most possible accurate power rankings in order to motivate people to get better at the game, considering that the in game leaderboards are irrelevant for multiple reasons.

    This list is actually even more irrelevant than the in-game leaderboards.

    I tried to make an objective list without bias. Mind explaining why you think it's that bad?

    @Miles Smiles.8951 said:
    Feelshonoredman, but again, professions are listed in order of relevance or what? =)

    Not really, it was random.

  • @PaRaPhReNiA.8763 said:

    @Vebryan.7549 said:
    Once again i'm not in the engi section, another wrong list yay :(

    feelsbadman but u would have 101 rating, thats prolly why u are not on this list =(

    ye, guess thats the problem ... i'm actually rayed too high since i could farm that whole list except zan and ebrush lmao feelsverybadman :'(

  • Dragons Warden>me , sure , that show how this kitten is made by a random.

  • Vallun.2071Vallun.2071 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018

    im too high on this list OMEGALUL

    But really i am not making the list until the game balance changes in a way that promotes skill reassignment, otherwise there is no incentive to improve and everything stays the same, refer to previous list XD

    Also why do people keep copy pasting my official verbiage lmao

  • bluri.2653bluri.2653 Member ✭✭✭

    thieves in this order
    Aieone:
    Irish koffee:
    Hybrid:
    Kaazers:
    sizer:

    others not really worth mentioning

    www.twitch.tv/sindrener - Rank 55 Dragons/Orange Logo/Team Aggression

  • I was told Vallun is the Sindrener of NA

  • i dont get why everyone is so salty. looks accurate to me... kinda copied my rating but meh. you learn from the best i would say. and sind its not about "worth mentioning" ... he just made a list of the entire gw2 pvp base and rated them. wheres the problem?

  • only one thing. how can iriel NOT be a 60 warrior ?

  • aniratac.7159aniratac.7159 Member ✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018

    @Iriel.4375 said:
    Dragons Warden>me , sure , that show how this kitten is made by a random.

    As I know, you never play spellbreaker which is meta. Maybe if you play the meta you will be placed higher on the list.

    @Vallun.2071 said:
    im too high on this list OMEGALUL

    But really i am not making the list until the game balance changes in a way that promotes skill reassignment, otherwise there is no incentive to improve and everything stays the same, refer to previous list XD

    Also why do people keep copy pasting my official verbiage lmao

    I think that you aren't a bad player and you deserve that position. You might not be mechanically superior to all other thieves, but I've noticed some displays of smart plays and awareness that some others don't have. Which is probably the most important skill of a thief: awareness and playmaking.

    @bluri.2653 said:
    thieves in this order
    Aieone:
    Irish koffee:
    Hybrid:
    Kaazers:
    sizer:

    others not really worth mentioning

    Irish Koffee hasn't really proven himself much outside of solo queue. So it's hard and a bit unfair to compare. Vallun, for example, has shown to have better awareness and decision making. I will try to fix the order a bit later.
    About the "others not really worth mentioning"... there is a bigger community and player pool than what you are actually aware of. These people deserve some recognition and could use this as motivation to improve.

    @Fideles Erbstück.7382 said:
    i dont get why everyone is so salty. looks accurate to me... kinda copied my rating but meh. you learn from the best i would say. and sind its not about "worth mentioning" ... he just made a list of the entire gw2 pvp base and rated them. wheres the problem?

    Thank you.

    @Fideles Erbstück.7382 said:
    only one thing. how can iriel NOT be a 60 warrior ?

    I think it's not fair to compare Iriel to the likes of Ziltoid, Roxas, Mikado and Dannyboy. That was a bit of the reason why I put some of those lower ranked to be used for the sake of comparison, making it easier to rate the rest and for the community to compare themselves to.

  • Vallun.2071Vallun.2071 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018

    I consider myself the same rating as irish koffee (with EU ping) but obv id be above him on the list cuz of ping :)
    though i think koffee is higher than most of the other thieves

  • @Vallun.2071 said:
    I consider myself the same rating as irish koffee (with EU ping) but obv id be above him on the list cuz of ping :)
    though i think koffee is higher than most of the other thieves

    I think I agree with some of the thief opinions. I would agree on putting Koffee higher on the list, if he had proven himself a bit more in tournament games, or against other thief players. The play outside of solo queue is more important in my opinion. I would drop your rating a bit maybe, seeing that both you and Sindrener have suggested the same.

  • bluri.2653bluri.2653 Member ✭✭✭

    @aniratac.7159 well idk how you can put sizer higher than the other thieves then, he hasn't achieved anything since 2014 so your logic is flawed

    www.twitch.tv/sindrener - Rank 55 Dragons/Orange Logo/Team Aggression

  • Vallun.2071Vallun.2071 Member ✭✭✭

    stop bullying sizer, he is in fact the highest paid SD thief EU

  • Vallun.2071Vallun.2071 Member ✭✭✭

    Kappa Kappa

  • @bluri.2653 said:
    @aniratac.7159 well idk how you can put sizer higher than the other thieves then, he hasn't achieved anything since 2014 so your logic is flawed

    I actually agree with you and I will adjust the list as I said.

  • Fideles Erbstück.7382Fideles Erbstück.7382 Member ✭✭
    edited January 7, 2018

    btw where is the wintraders power rating ?

  • @Vebryan.7549 said:

    @PaRaPhReNiA.8763 said:

    @Vebryan.7549 said:
    Once again i'm not in the engi section, another wrong list yay :(

    feelsbadman but u would have 101 rating, thats prolly why u are not on this list =(

    ye, guess thats the problem ... i'm actually rayed too high since i could farm that whole list except zan and ebrush lmao feelsverybadman :'(

    for real vebryan youre such a kid, you wouldnt farm anyone above makarow lmao. its not about who farms who, more like how does he act in different scenarios = u may be good mechanically but thats it, dont act like you could farm everyone :D

    "floody is top10 memer eu", ~Ziltoid, 2006

  • All random numbers determined by some random people without any statistical or mathematical base 😂

  • Nila.7813Nila.7813 Member ✭✭

    Qatrax - Today at 6:15 AM
    i even asked myself
    why im still on powerrankings
    Miaz - Today at 6:15 AM
    xDDDDDD
    Qatrax - Today at 6:15 AM
    coz i didnt played mesmer
    for like 3-4 months

  • HeadCrowned.6834HeadCrowned.6834 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2018

    @aniratac.7159 said:
    I tried to make an objective list without bias. Mind explaining why you think it's that bad?

    Well, could you explain your algorithm that determines which score each player gets? Besides, you made this list on your own? You call this list ''based on observable performance'' but you can't observe every PvP player above a certain rating.

  • @Levijeh.1467 said:
    All random numbers determined by some random people without any statistical or mathematical base 😂

    It's not random numbers. This is based on experience while trying to be as unbias as I possibly can. It's gathered from playing solo queue and watching streams. If people disagree with any of my list, they should come and point the faults of my list while explaining why. I'll keep readjusting to make it as legit as I possibly can.

    @Nila.7813 said:
    Qatrax - Today at 6:15 AM
    i even asked myself
    why im still on powerrankings
    Miaz - Today at 6:15 AM
    xDDDDDD
    Qatrax - Today at 6:15 AM
    coz i didnt played mesmer
    for like 3-4 months

    I know for a fact that Qatrax has played mirage not that long ago and I put some people in this list also more as a tool to compare to others. Also, from what I remember, Qatrax appeared on top 10 multiple times and even on the latest one, according to a source of mine.

    @HeadCrowned.6834 said:

    @aniratac.7159 said:
    I tried to make an objective list without bias. Mind explaining why you think it's that bad?

    Well, could you explain your algorithm that determines which score each player gets? Besides, you made this list on your own? You call this list ''based on observable performance'' but you can't observe every PvP player above a certain rating.

    There is no real algorithm here. It's based on what I could observe from solo queue, streams and players who win tournaments. It's true I can't possibly know about the real skill of every single player out there, but at least the top ones are pretty "observable". My list might not be 100% accurate but I'm trying to make it the closest to that as I can. That's why feedback is important to help me readjust to something that will be even closer to being accurate.

  • Just 86 i'm mad :(

  • Urejt.5648Urejt.5648 Member ✭✭✭

    fake list. Sizer is ranked 1 thief because he finished rank 2 totaL.

    rifle is garbage since stealth on dodge nerf
    ~~* SEASON XII - TOP 12 EU RIFLE GOD! updated

  • Nila.7813Nila.7813 Member ✭✭

    Nah qatrax didn't play mirage for 3 months. The only class that he touched during PoF was druid.

  • @solmat.9831 said:
    Just 86 i'm mad :(

    Rumors saying that you gonna lose your title for wintrading with SIZER....

    S A R À B

  • aniratac.7159aniratac.7159 Member ✭✭
    edited January 7, 2018

    @solmat.9831 said:
    Just 86 i'm mad :(

    If you are mad, tell me why you disagree and what rank you think you deserve instead? On a serious note.

    @Urejt.5648 said:
    fake list. Sizer is ranked 1 thief because he finished rank 2 totaL.

    I considered giving Sizer a higher rank in the list, considering his solo queue ranking regardless of the dramas. But I decided to go with this current ranking instead.

    @Nila.7813 said:
    Nah qatrax didn't play mirage for 3 months. The only class that he touched during PoF was druid.

    I know for a fact this is not true, even if he has played druid more than mirage. But I considered his mirage because it's what I saw from him the most myself. So it's hard for me to judge his druid. Mind telling me where you would rank him as druid and why?

  • Vetch.6307Vetch.6307 Member ✭✭

    No Saffron/I Am Bunker Guard on the guardian list????? Saffron is a stand up guy! #shameless plug.

  • Alcazaro.7618Alcazaro.7618 Member ✭✭
    edited January 7, 2018

    @aniratac.7159 said:

    @Levijeh.1467 said:
    All random numbers determined by some random people without any statistical or mathematical base 😂

    It's not random numbers. This is based on experience while trying to be as unbias as I possibly can. It's gathered from playing solo queue and watching streams. If people disagree with any of my list, they should come and point the faults of my list while explaining why. I'll keep readjusting to make it as legit as I possibly can.

    @Nila.7813 said:
    Qatrax - Today at 6:15 AM
    i even asked myself
    why im still on powerrankings
    Miaz - Today at 6:15 AM
    xDDDDDD
    Qatrax - Today at 6:15 AM
    coz i didnt played mesmer
    for like 3-4 months

    I know for a fact that Qatrax has played mirage not that long ago and I put some people in this list also more as a tool to compare to others. Also, from what I remember, Qatrax appeared on top 10 multiple times and even on the latest one, according to a source of mine.

    @HeadCrowned.6834 said:

    @aniratac.7159 said:
    I tried to make an objective list without bias. Mind explaining why you think it's that bad?

    Well, could you explain your algorithm that determines which score each player gets? Besides, you made this list on your own? You call this list ''based on observable performance'' but you can't observe every PvP player above a certain rating.

    There is no real algorithm here. It's based on what I could observe from solo queue, streams and players who win tournaments. It's true I can't possibly know about the real skill of every single player out there, but at least the top ones are pretty "observable". My list might not be 100% accurate but I'm trying to make it the closest to that as I can. That's why feedback is important to help me readjust to something that will be even closer to being accurate.

    this whole forum post is a joke, why do you take all this effort to gather ingame names, when youre not even able to understand who is good or who isnt. anyway, i was good at chrono but i rarely played mirage, youre right perhaps i played like 20 ranked games or smth, the rest i played druid. and yes i were top 10 multiple times and recognized that the only other players which i faced where Misha, Zan, Sindrenner and this RIP guy think these guys where the only players out of whole top 25 i faced on dayli primetime over weeks, you can imagine that match quality was always totally bad in avg, there not that many decent players anymore the game is ded, and most people camping on their shty meaningless ladderboard places. since im not interested to argue with ingame r e t a r d s anymore, i just stopped playing over an month ago. in my pov the most players in this community acting completly delusional and scare the kitten out of me when i ask myself how this people are in real life. thanks but i dont want to be a part of that.

    Çazar/Qatrax/Qyax

  • @Vetch.6307 said:
    No Saffron/I Am Bunker Guard on the guardian list????? Saffron is a stand up guy! #shameless plug.

    Tell me why and where do you think I should add into the list?

    @Alcazaro.7618 said:

    this whole forum post is a joke, why do you take all this effort to gather ingame names, when youre not even able to understand who is good or who isnt. anyway, i was good at chrono but i rarely played mirage, youre right perhaps i played like 20 ranked games or smth, the rest i played druid. and yes i were top 10 multiple times and recognized that the only other players which i faced where Misha, Zan, Sindrenner and this RIP guy think these guys where the only players out of whole top 25 i faced on dayli primetime over weeks, you can imagine that match quality was always totally bad in avg, there not that many decent players anymore the game is ded, and most people camping on their shty meaningless ladderboard places. since im not interested to argue with ingame r e t a r d s anymore, i just stopped playing over an month ago. in my pov the most players in this community acting completly delusional and scare the kitten out of me when i ask myself how this people are in real life. thanks but i dont want to be a part of that.

    This post is not supposed to be a joke, unlike some of the other similar ones. If you disagree with the list, would you mind giving some more specific feedback? Who do you think is ranked wrong and why? After you give more proper feedback, I will consider it and readjust the list.
    I added your mesmer to the list because I know you're still better than most other mesmers. I didn't know how to rate your druid so I didn't bother to add your druid to the list. Again, you can help me with this and so can any other person in this forum.
    I agree that the match quality average has dropped a lot and I hope that this list will motivate others to improve at the game and look at these rankings as a way to differentiate eachother as accurately as possible. I also agree that most players are quite delusional about their real skill, too. But noone is able to be 100% unbias, so again, that's why it's important for people to share their opinions here. Let's make this more interesting for the better of a community in a game that we have enjoyed so much.

  • lol you give credit to a nobody, making a nobody ranking.
    I rofl so hard.

  • aniratac.7159aniratac.7159 Member ✭✭
    edited January 9, 2018

    @Seyiwaji.4082 said:
    lol you give credit to a nobody, making a nobody ranking.
    I rofl so hard.

    I've experience from playing against almost all of the players in this list from solo queue and ATs. You're not being helpful or contributing in any way by coming here and trying to discredit me without providing real feedback. If you disagree with the rankings, explain yourself better.

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