DrMORO.4627 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 @Noschiii.6819 said:First of all thanks to all the people who are writing about their experiences with external SSD. YW, NP & GL!Aside, Yes, external SSD (and probably internal SSD as well) should make quite a few things faster.Definitely recommend switching to SSD for those playing on a 'rotating platter' HDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ananda.5946 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I've installed the 64 bit mac client thingie now to try it out. Maybe I've done something wrong, but it is way, way, way worse than the absolutely broken wrapper client. Standing in Divinity's Reach is like watching a slide show. What I did was install the new client and change my bar shortcut to the new one and launch. Seemed like this would be correct, but maybe not? Also, I should add that these specs, while getting a bit old, work fine on high settings in bootcamp. MacOS High Sierra v10.13.2iMac (27-inch, Late 2013)3,4 GHz Intel Core i516 GB 1600 MHz DDR3NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M 2 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercluster.7159 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 @ananda.5946 said:I've installed the 64 bit mac client thingie now to try it out. Maybe I've done something wrong, but it is way, way, way worse than the absolutely broken wrapper client. Standing in Divinity's Reach is like watching a slide show. What I did was install the new client and change my bar shortcut to the new one and launch. Seemed like this would be correct, but maybe not? Also, I should add that these specs, while getting a bit old, work fine on high settings in bootcamp. MacOS High Sierra v10.13.2iMac (27-inch, Late 2013)3,4 GHz Intel Core i516 GB 1600 MHz DDR3NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M 2 GBI have the same spec's except I have 4 GB on the GPU card and have the game installed on an external USB 3.0 SSD. I normally get 35 - 45 FPS outside cities and In the cities I get 25 - 35, but occasionally it will drop in the low teens(or lower) for no reason at all. Also when I enter a new area it sometimes will take a minute or two to become playable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ananda.5946 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 @Supercluster.7159 said:@ananda.5946 said:I've installed the 64 bit mac client thingie now to try it out. Maybe I've done something wrong, but it is way, way, way worse than the absolutely broken wrapper client. Standing in Divinity's Reach is like watching a slide show. What I did was install the new client and change my bar shortcut to the new one and launch. Seemed like this would be correct, but maybe not? Also, I should add that these specs, while getting a bit old, work fine on high settings in bootcamp. MacOS High Sierra v10.13.2iMac (27-inch, Late 2013)3,4 GHz Intel Core i516 GB 1600 MHz DDR3NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M 2 GBI have the same spec's except I have 4 GB on the GPU card and have the game installed on an external USB 3.0 SSD. I normally get 35 - 45 FPS outside cities and In the cities I get 25 - 35, but occasionally it will drop in the low teens(or lower) for no reason at all. Also when I enter a new area it sometimes will take a minute or two to become playable. Interesting. I wonder if I've done something wrong or need to completely reinstall the game or something? Waiting doesn't help the issue. Thirty minutes later, I still have the same slide show effect. My husband has a brand new iMac with the best graphic card they had available and has performance similar to mine with the Mac Client. Both of us would obviously love to be able to use the macOS version rather than bootcamp.Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercluster.7159 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Interesting. I wonder if I've done something wrong or need to completely reinstall the game or something? Waiting doesn't help the issue. Thirty minutes later, I still have the same slide show effect. My husband has a brand new iMac with the best graphic card they had available and has performance similar to mine with the Mac Client. Both of us would obviously love to be able to use the macOS version rather than bootcamp.Any advice?I really don't know why my setup works OK(most of the time) because I see others like you that have similar specs and are having a terrible time. It's frustrating not knowing why some people have good performance and others with the similar specs are having terrible performance. Now I do believe I should be getting much better performance with these specs based on what the Windows people are getting with similar specs. Hopefully Anet is still working on optimizing the Mac 64 client and we all see better performance in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galmac.4680 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Very annoying: After 3 hours in WvW when I solo roam into a camp, the NPCs seem to stay on their positions while their real position changes as I attack them. I have to guess where they really are, I can see only the damage numbers where they should be, but their character model stays on the standard position. Using an old iMac late 2009 with 12Gb ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 @DrMORO.4627 said:In any case, although depending on your Mac mini, USB port is not the fastest, unless you are sure you have USB 3.0 like the latest Mac mini. The older USB 2.0 is even slower and no suitable for SSD usage. For speed, at least USB 3.0, better USB 3.1, even better would be Thunderbolt 2, and for the latest the speediest would be Thunderbolt 3 connections, I presume.BTW, I am running a bit behind so apologies in advance if someone has said this already. Anyway, my boot & game is an external enterprise SSD via USB 3. Based on the tests I read it is roughly comparable to TB 2 (which is faster depends on what test and the faster one usually is not much faster). It would be no contest with TB 3 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellchaos.7138 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 After 2 months did you find a way to prevent the reading problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangus.6572 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 This one. It's really annoying than disk is on constant 10-30mbps read IO. Please find out a reason Anet. use RAM not disk to cache things :D.@Hellchaos.7138 said:After 2 months did you find a way to prevent the reading problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMORO.4627 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 FYI, for those unhappy with even worse High Sierra's GW2 64-bit performance after upgrading Mac OS X."Video: How to downgrade from macOS High Sierra to Sierra"http://appleinsider.com/articles/18/01/29/video-how-to-downgrade-from-macos-high-sierra-to-sierra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 @"DrMORO.4627" said:FYI, for those unhappy with even worse High Sierra's GW2 64-bit performance after upgrading Mac OS X."Video: How to downgrade from macOS High Sierra to Sierra"http://appleinsider.com/articles/18/01/29/video-how-to-downgrade-from-macos-high-sierra-to-sierraThanks, unfortunately I hope anet does not think it is a good long term solution. Mac users tend to upgrade often so at some point other software on people's systems will assume high sierra or better. It is not like the windows ecosystem where you still have to support xp or risk the wrath of angry customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyt.9415 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just run it on the Free GeForce Now Mac beta and play the game through the cloud mine runs at 2560p max settings over a 150 meg internet connection on a 2015 MacBook https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/mac-pc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMORO.4627 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 @"psyt.9415" said:Just run it on the Free GeForce Now Mac beta and play the game through the cloud mine runs at 2560p max settings over a 150 meg internet connection on a 2015 MacBook https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/mac-pc/Great idea!Signed up, but on the waitlist.Not sure when, if ever, will get beta access, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormawachi.8670 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I would certainly be interested to see how this works in comparison to the other means available to us, but has anyone heard what the monthly cost of this service would be to play our "free" game after the beta?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Olson.8439 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 Hello all, since it's been a little while I wanted to post an update:Performance issues on High Sierra are being investigated. We had some blockers that prevented us from investigating this, but they were resolved in the last week.Performance issues (disk reads, I/O, shader hitching) are being investigated. Progress has been made, but we have yet to hone in on the specifics of what is causing this.(@Sonicbug.7341 @Hawken.7932) Can you provide some more details on the locations of the texture flickering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyt.9415 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 @"Ormawachi.8670" said:I would certainly be interested to see how this works in comparison to the other means available to us, but has anyone heard what the monthly cost of this service would be to play our "free" game after the beta??Not sure the Geforce Now sub on Shield is $7.99 a month I'm assuming it would be more than this for the Mac version. But then you could also play all your steam games on it etc as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrun.4521 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Thanks for the update Jon. The shader hitching recently seems to have become much worse than it's ever been for me (on latest High Sierra on a MBP with Radeon Pro 460), so it's nice to know this stuff is still being looked at. It used to be some hitching at first and then things would mostly settle down, but now it's much more frequent and the hitches are longer pauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMORO.4627 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Thanks for the update is your words, Jon!New MASSIVE patch is now out, but I did not see any mentioning of 'Mac' within the descriptions.Any bit of update/fix/patching for us anxious Mac 64-bit users in this patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Olson.8439 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 @DrMORO.4627 said:Thanks for the update is your words, Jon!New MASSIVE patch is now out, but I did not see any mentioning of 'Mac' within the descriptions.Any bit of update/fix/patching for us anxious Mac 64-bit users in this patch?There are no macOS-specific changes in today's update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellchaos.7138 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I tried deimos the other day and sometimes his AOE are invisible. Am I the only one concerned about this bug ?I can provide a video if you want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Kril.2695 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just ran across this today, playing Dragon Ball.I can't set auto attack any more. Control + right-click does nothing.Not just in Dragon Ball — everywhere. Anyone else have this problem?(I haven't had reason to change/set auto attack until today with the Lunar New Year and Dragon Ball returning.)I tried switching mice, switching maps, relaunching. Still nothing.I think this is a Mac client issue, since I used to be able to set auto attack with the old 32-bit wine client.I recall setting auto attack all the time while playing Dragon Ball last year (not yet on the new Mac client).Can anyone confirm or deny this issue? Or suggest a work-around?Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Kril.2695 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Ack, I forgot — it's not Control + Right-click on the Mac; it's Command + Right-Click.Setting/resetting auto targeting is working fine. Please ignore post above.Apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken.7932 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 @Jon Olson.8439 said:(@Sonicbug.7341 @Hawken.7932) Can you provide some more details on the locations of the texture flickering?@Jon Olson.8439 Istan is a pretty reliable place to provoke the flickering. For example, to test this this morning, I just ported to Istan and immediately there is texture flickering right at the place where the docks meet the shore. There is a blend (a projection decal perhaps) where the sand blends up onto the wood of the docks, between the two pillars. That sand flickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Yeah, the Istan dock area is pretty reliable to see the flickering.Thanks for not forgetting us Jon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercluster.7159 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 This may sound a bit trivial but since moving to the 64 bit native mac version I do not see my characters footprints anymore, in the snow or sand, on any maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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