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  • DemonSeed.3528DemonSeed.3528 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @bigo.9037 said:

    @Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said:
    The other day I've seen a really pissed off cussing guy running hacks just to catch and wreck the other one from opposite server. Think I've seen it all now.

    LOL this sounds absolutely hilarious i wish i had seen that.

    Personally though, as a general response to this thread.. I have never actually seen anyone cheat. Not once. I guess you guys must be kinda unlucky? im not sure. i dont ever really hear about people cheating or hacking at all either in game..

    Surely ANET wants to keep hackers and cheaters out of the game but i dont think its that easy to track them down. like others have already stated, false reports happen all the time. I too get accused of cheating or hacking occasionally where a person will ( supposedly ) make his party or even entire guild report me.

    It does exist, count yourself lucky not coming across it. If your playtime only extends to prime or zerging hours then most likely you won't see/notice any most of the time. What server do you play and what hours do you spend in WvW? Roaming/zerging? It might give a general idea on why you may not be coming across any.

  • Tinnel.4369Tinnel.4369 Member ✭✭✭✭

    There's a fix coming, hacker bans along with balance will be for sale on the BLTC. 😉

  • bigo.9037bigo.9037 Member ✭✭✭

    @DemonSeed.3528 said:

    @bigo.9037 said:

    @Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said:
    The other day I've seen a really pissed off cussing guy running hacks just to catch and wreck the other one from opposite server. Think I've seen it all now.

    LOL this sounds absolutely hilarious i wish i had seen that.

    Personally though, as a general response to this thread.. I have never actually seen anyone cheat. Not once. I guess you guys must be kinda unlucky? im not sure. i dont ever really hear about people cheating or hacking at all either in game..

    Surely ANET wants to keep hackers and cheaters out of the game but i dont think its that easy to track them down. like others have already stated, false reports happen all the time. I too get accused of cheating or hacking occasionally where a person will ( supposedly ) make his party or even entire guild report me.

    It does exist, count yourself lucky not coming across it. If your playtime only extends to prime or zerging hours then most likely you won't see/notice any most of the time. What server do you play and what hours do you spend in WvW? Roaming/zerging? It might give a general idea on why you may not be coming across any.

    I play on EU around.. plus minus primetime ish. Roaming. i dont doubt they exist i just think its interesting cus ive never even heard people talking about it ingame other than when they're accusing me of doing it lol

  • @bigo.9037 said:

    @DemonSeed.3528 said:

    @bigo.9037 said:

    @Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said:
    The other day I've seen a really pissed off cussing guy running hacks just to catch and wreck the other one from opposite server. Think I've seen it all now.

    LOL this sounds absolutely hilarious i wish i had seen that.

    Personally though, as a general response to this thread.. I have never actually seen anyone cheat. Not once. I guess you guys must be kinda unlucky? im not sure. i dont ever really hear about people cheating or hacking at all either in game..

    Surely ANET wants to keep hackers and cheaters out of the game but i dont think its that easy to track them down. like others have already stated, false reports happen all the time. I too get accused of cheating or hacking occasionally where a person will ( supposedly ) make his party or even entire guild report me.

    It does exist, count yourself lucky not coming across it. If your playtime only extends to prime or zerging hours then most likely you won't see/notice any most of the time. What server do you play and what hours do you spend in WvW? Roaming/zerging? It might give a general idea on why you may not be coming across any.

    I play on EU around.. plus minus primetime ish. Roaming. i dont doubt they exist i just think its interesting cus ive never even heard people talking about it ingame other than when they're accusing me of doing it lol

    Guess we legit players need to log into eu servers?

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Gaile Gray.6029 said:

    @Klipso.8653 said:
    This thread will get deleted, and nothing will be done about the problem 😔

    Nope, not going to delete this, unless I look back and see naming and shaming. You're certainly welcome to share your concerns about this subject. I want you to know that they are noted.

    I had a long talk with CS just this week on the topic of cheating and how players can best report incidents. I wanted to be sure that reports truly were noted, and acted upon. And... they are. You may not see the reaction, because it can happen outside of your view. You will not hear about the outcome, because there is no method to respond to an in-game report. But when you report someone for cheating -- and that's reported through using the "botting" reason, because they get the same sort of review -- an agent will investigate. Alternately, you can use e-mail to send a report and details to [email protected] (BTW, the team asked me to suggest that you you please not include files in your initial e-mail. For security purposes, attachments are filtered out. However, you can provide a link to a video file if you've hosted it elsewhere. Alternately, you could mention you have a video or other resource and the team will provide a means to get it to them if they determine they need it.)

    Sometimes it's hard to nail down the use of a cheat in a single review, and seldom is the review going to happen within seconds of your report. However, I can confirm that reports are not "going into the void" or getting quietly shuffled under the carpet. Nor is this conversation. :)

    Thank you @Gaile Gray.6029

    It helps to know the right process and that things are being looked at.

    There is certainly a percentage of players that won't be satisfied until they see a public execution or two, but I wonder if a list of numbers of people banned, and maybe the lengths of those bans could be done? Maybe include the region (ideally the server...).

    This may give the more bloodthirsty players the realization that it is happening in the background.

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  • Gemnaid.4219Gemnaid.4219 Member ✭✭✭

    Haven’t seen any hackers.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Gaile Gray.6029 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Gaile Gray.6029 said:

    @Klipso.8653 said:
    This thread will get deleted, and nothing will be done about the problem 😔

    Nope, not going to delete this, unless I look back and see naming and shaming. You're certainly welcome to share your concerns about this subject. I want you to know that they are noted.

    I had a long talk with CS just this week on the topic of cheating and how players can best report incidents. I wanted to be sure that reports truly were noted, and acted upon. And... they are. You may not see the reaction, because it can happen outside of your view. You will not hear about the outcome, because there is no method to respond to an in-game report. But when you report someone for cheating -- and that's reported through using the "botting" reason, because they get the same sort of review -- an agent will investigate. Alternately, you can use e-mail to send a report and details to [email protected] (BTW, the team asked me to suggest that you you please not include files in your initial e-mail. For security purposes, attachments are filtered out. However, you can provide a link to a video file if you've hosted it elsewhere. Alternately, you could mention you have a video or other resource and the team will provide a means to get it to them if they determine they need it.)

    Sometimes it's hard to nail down the use of a cheat in a single review, and seldom is the review going to happen within seconds of your report. However, I can confirm that reports are not "going into the void" or getting quietly shuffled under the carpet. Nor is this conversation. :)

    Thank you @Gaile Gray.6029

    It helps to know the right process and that things are being looked at.

    There is certainly a percentage of players that won't be satisfied until they see a public execution or two, but I wonder if a list of numbers of people banned, and maybe the lengths of those bans could be done? Maybe include the region (ideally the server...).

    This may give the more bloodthirsty players the realization that it is happening in the background.

    About the request: At first I read "list of names" and I immediately thought "There's no way we'd do that!" But numbers, period of suspension, I get that. It's definitely something we could discuss, although for the most part we go about the cheater-removal process rather quietly.

    Agreed about the names. Thank you for looking at it though. :grin:

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  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Gaile Gray.6029 said:

    About the request: At first I read "list of names" and I immediately thought "There's no way we'd do that!" But numbers, period of suspension, I get that. It's definitely something we could discuss, although for the most part we go about the cheater-removal process rather quietly.

    Just posting stats goes a long way to show players that it is being addressed and that reporting it helps to resolve it. The best hackers are going to be more subtle and players may not notice them, permanent 40% run speed, burst speeds of 50% (Did he shadowstep there?), pass thru a wall as a Mez and "Say hi zerg I was able to hide in keep, wanna port?". Sharing action stats shows that ANet does and has the tools to address it.

    Thanks!

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  • kmfart.7480kmfart.7480 Member ✭✭

    Over the years, I have "followed" a few hackers ingame to spot their behaviours etc, a few of the more crafty ones cheat & play for a day, then play a few days without cheating & get totally wrecked all the time. Almost like they could be aware of potential monitoring, or simply down playing their statistics (this behaviour pattern has been noted/spotted). A few of the wvw cheaters I've seen are not actually killing enemy players, but using inifinite energy/blocks type cheats & just trolling enemy players instead, as they cannot significantly change the outcome of the entire week (that's one of the biggest PROS about World vs World).

    As the number of players increase, cheaters have less of an impact. But, I also noted another more disturbing pattern "They also play PvP". That is where cheating is going to impact the outcome of matches. After "spying" on a few over a few days, I noted that they actually played more PvP than WvW (that does make sense i guess).

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Every thread on hacking tends to disappear for whatever reasons, I know hacking is never a good thing to see and read about for a game, but it's an issue that needs to be dealt with and not silently ignored. I'm glad this thread will stay up to have a discussion about this situation because it's important to get information to players about hacking, how to spot it and how to report it. In fact I didn't know reporting someone under botting was the way to go to report a hacker as to me botting just means playing the game afk like the leather farm in pve, while hacking means using exploits in the game like flying around the zone with no mount.

    I'm glad Gaile has responded and posted some information on reporting and that anet does look into the reports and do something about it if they can, a very important part of preventing players from doing hacks is actually stopping them from actually thinking of hacking in the first place. That starts with saying something and letting players know you're serious about this issue and you will ban accounts.

    While Anet might have done this silently all this time, it needs to be visible somewhere, as I mentioned in another hacker thread that got removed, a company like Blizzard let's their players know they are actively banning accounts, when ban waves happen they let players know how many were banned. When players see this happening they feel better knowing the company is actively doing something, players also get the pre-warning not to take up the hacking tools or you may risk getting banned as well.

    My point is you cannot be totally silent on an issue like this, there needs to be a stickied thread at the very least mentioning hacking will be dealt with, and how to make proper reports.

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  • Bloodstealer.5978Bloodstealer.5978 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2018

    Oooh all those minion bot views from the video... coincidence much.
    But like was said, ANET have simply let these issues fester for way too long and for them to take action on accounts using any of those hax/bots exploits etc now (if they could even track them) would be too little too late and likely lead to a noticeable population deviation.. aint gunna happen, so we have to either join the hax squad, grin and bare it or go elsewhere for our fun fix.

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  • Euryon.9248Euryon.9248 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Gaile Gray.6029 said:

    @Klipso.8653 said:
    This thread will get deleted, and nothing will be done about the problem 😔

    There is certainly a percentage of players that won't be satisfied until they see a public execution or two, but I wonder if a list of numbers of people banned, and maybe the lengths of those bans could be done? Maybe include the region (ideally the server...).

    This may give the more bloodthirsty players the realization that it is happening in the background.

    I think one of the most important things here is showing the hackers that actions are being taken. I understand doing it without a lot of fanfare, but if the hackers themselves never see any action being taken, they will continue to think that Anet doesn't care very much about hacking, leading to a greater proliferation. If they know they are at risk of real punishment, I think a lot of the hackers that actually have something to lose might stop the more blatant stuff.

  • HazyDaisy.4107HazyDaisy.4107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    how to spot it

    That's the big one for me on combat hacks. I don't actually like to fight players, I mainly just want to scout, ppt, do my dailies and not get zerged while walking around, but, this is wvw :) and fights and numbers are kind of unavoidable most times when you're out and about by yourself, because others are also doing the same and they usually have more players than you do.

    I've played all the professions at one point or another, but some not regularly and others maybe regularly but not necessarily both of their elite professions, so it's hard to keep track of what some professions are capable of and what is downright impossible.

    My SO, who is a bot watcher both in and out of wvw will oftentimes start watching my screen when I'm in the midst of a fight, sometimes he will say nothing, but othertimes he will say, nah, that guy is cheating, but the actions the other player does looks so normal to me most times I'll write it off as I must've just screwed up or something.

    I like to believe that most players are genuinely honest, but to hear my SO talk about the fights I stumble across, it seems I likely encounter anywhere from 1-5 erroneous players every night. Not a big number considering the size and scope of the mode, and some of the players may be the same people on different accounts, but it still leaves one wondering what's going on that they are missing and how many times over the years were they robbed of a win because of stuff like this?

    The flip side of unfamiliarity and/or inexperience with combat is labeling everyone that beats you in a fight as a cheater, when we that have played for years know that's just not the case, but never the less inexperienced, dare I say saltier players and new players see genuine losses not as something they did wrong, but as something their opponent must've done beyond the scope of legal play. Now, you can tell when you're sitting there looking at a dead body, that you're most likely getting blocked/reported and/or about to be whispered,. I'm just wondering what the odds are that genuine players get mixed up with the non genuine ones BECAUSE 10 salty guild mates of the new player reported the genuine player as well based on the uneducated word of the guild mate that lost?

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  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    One of the biggest things to put more of a hurdle on detecting some types of hacks is the increase in mobility skills in the game. A lot of times I'm sure a person will look at a thief or ranger just dashing away at a distance that seems impossible in the amount of time they do it, and it can just be chalked up to being a hack. Sometimes we see downed players and they seem to teleport, sometimes that is just due to lag on their end and maybe their corpse was a foot away from where you saw it went down, but if you see the corpse teleporting like 5 times away from you, that's most likely a hack and not a lag spike lol.

    Pretty sure I have friends who have been reported for hacking on legit capture of t3 structures because one person didn't understand how it happened in a short period of time and then also tells the map to report them so it can get attention quicker, there use to be a guy on hod who use to do this quite often to many players. Sometimes it might just be a mesmer hack ported into a structure and ported people in, or maybe it might just be a group planned out building 5 golems for a water gate rush and quickly go for a cap while the map was quiet(the old days anyways), just because you don't see a ram or cata doesn't mean they didn't use golems instead and ported them out after.

    Players need a better understanding of what seems legit skills or hacking going on in combat, and having an open discussion will help with that.

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  • Bloodstealer.5978Bloodstealer.5978 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Euryon.9248 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Gaile Gray.6029 said:

    @Klipso.8653 said:
    This thread will get deleted, and nothing will be done about the problem 😔

    There is certainly a percentage of players that won't be satisfied until they see a public execution or two, but I wonder if a list of numbers of people banned, and maybe the lengths of those bans could be done? Maybe include the region (ideally the server...).

    This may give the more bloodthirsty players the realization that it is happening in the background.

    I think one of the most important things here is showing the hackers that actions are being taken. I understand doing it without a lot of fanfare, but if the hackers themselves never see any action being taken, they will continue to think that Anet doesn't care very much about hacking, leading to a greater proliferation. If they know they are at risk of real punishment, I think a lot of the hackers that actually have something to lose might stop the more blatant stuff.

    And herein lays the bigger issue.. for too long it has felt like nothing has or is being done.
    As I have said before.. words are cheap - Actions speak LOUDER than Words.
    We all know the hackers, botters, and exploiters looking to game the system exists in GW2.. what we don't see is anything getting done about it except forum postings disappearing when it rears its ugly head.
    The real deterrent is this is ACTION and sadly to me at least, it appears to be sorely lacking when it comes to dealing with this issue. Like Scorpion showed in another of his video provings.. as soon as a hack is used that affects the bottom line , it is acted on quicksmart.. but otherwise they are left to fester in the hope it will all go away. You can only sweep stuff under the rug for so long until it begins to leak out the sides.

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  • Rufo.3716Rufo.3716 Member ✭✭✭

    I've confronted a few hackers and I keep getting the same response. "They can't even detect this hack. So not going to stop doing it until they fix PvP and I get my proper spot on leader boards."

    Seriously, that is the justification I constantly hear. I do however keep seeing the same people running around for months. So either it not being able to be detected is true, or nothing is actually being done.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    One of the biggest things to put more of a hurdle on detecting some types of hacks is the increase in mobility skills in the game. A lot of times I'm sure a person will look at a thief or ranger just dashing away at a distance that seems impossible in the amount of time they do it, and it can just be chalked up to being a hack. Sometimes we see downed players and they seem to teleport, sometimes that is just due to lag on their end and maybe their corpse was a foot away from where you saw it went down, but if you see the corpse teleporting like 5 times away from you, that's most likely a hack and not a lag spike lol.

    Pretty sure I have friends who have been reported for hacking on legit capture of t3 structures because one person didn't understand how it happened in a short period of time and then also tells the map to report them so it can get attention quicker, there use to be a guy on hod who use to do this quite often to many players. Sometimes it might just be a mesmer hack ported into a structure and ported people in, or maybe it might just be a group planned out building 5 golems for a water gate rush and quickly go for a cap while the map was quiet(the old days anyways), just because you don't see a ram or cata doesn't mean they didn't use golems instead and ported them out after.

    Players need a better understanding of what seems legit skills or hacking going on in combat, and having an open discussion will help with that.

    Agreed. I wonder if there was a way to engage that discussion without leading people to how to get/use the hacks themselves.

    Some threads get removed when people post names of people they feel are hacking, but hopefully, this thread will stay clean of that.

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  • SWI.4127SWI.4127 Member ✭✭✭

    Finally got around to uploading some of the stuff I've seen. Downed players teleporting away multiple times. People in chat said maybe it's the Necro trait but I think it's pretty obvious from these clips that is not the case. Is this just lag though?

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  • Chaba.5410Chaba.5410 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2018

    @SWI.4127 said:
    Finally got around to uploading some of the stuff I've seen. Downed players teleporting away multiple times. People in chat said maybe it's the Necro trait but I think it's pretty obvious from these clips that is not the case. Is this just lag though?

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    Downed players teleporting like that is lag. If they were using cheat software, you wouldn't have been able to get them downed in the first place. You can see you aren't even doing any damage on the downed BEAR player when you are hitting the Dcon and Goon players because his location isn't where your client thinks he is, just like when a dolyak is bugged out and teleports.

  • SWI.4127SWI.4127 Member ✭✭✭

    @Chaba.5410 said:

    @SWI.4127 said:
    Finally got around to uploading some of the stuff I've seen. Downed players teleporting away multiple times. People in chat said maybe it's the Necro trait but I think it's pretty obvious from these clips that is not the case. Is this just lag though?

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    Downed players teleporting like that is lag. If they were using cheat software, you wouldn't have been able to get them downed in the first place. You can see you aren't even doing any damage on the downed BEAR player when you are hitting the Dcon and Goon players because his location isn't where your client thinks he is, just like when a dolyak is bugged out and teleports.

    Okay ty. I've been on the other end of this where one of our aussie players is standing in the middle of the enemy zerg because of lag and they can't kill him. I've thought "they probably think he's hacking" lol. That makes sense though. Just frustrating when it happens. I want my bag!

  • My personal complaint about exploits in WvW is even if you report them WHO are you going to report? The Maguma Silver Knight? There are no names. If ANET doesn't patrol once in a while then the issues will continue because we don't have the tools to do anything about it.

  • Chaba.5410Chaba.5410 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2018

    @SWI.4127 said:

    @Chaba.5410 said:

    @SWI.4127 said:
    Finally got around to uploading some of the stuff I've seen. Downed players teleporting away multiple times. People in chat said maybe it's the Necro trait but I think it's pretty obvious from these clips that is not the case. Is this just lag though?

    muted because of my annoying music :#

    Downed players teleporting like that is lag. If they were using cheat software, you wouldn't have been able to get them downed in the first place. You can see you aren't even doing any damage on the downed BEAR player when you are hitting the Dcon and Goon players because his location isn't where your client thinks he is, just like when a dolyak is bugged out and teleports.

    Okay ty. I've been on the other end of this where one of our aussie players is standing in the middle of the enemy zerg because of lag and they can't kill him. I've thought "they probably think he's hacking" lol. That makes sense though. Just frustrating when it happens. I want my bag!

    Yea, I seen it happen a lot to Aussie players!

    In this video (from two years ago) the guy DC's eventually. If you notice too, his distance is always the same distance away from my client. That's the last reported distance.

  • SWI.4127SWI.4127 Member ✭✭✭

    @Malavian.4695 said:
    My personal complaint about exploits in WvW is even if you report them WHO are you going to report? The Maguma Silver Knight? There are no names. If ANET doesn't patrol once in a while then the issues will continue because we don't have the tools to do anything about it.

    You have to block them, then search on your block list for the correct player. I agree though, they should definitely make it easier to report opposing players in WvW.

  • SWI.4127SWI.4127 Member ✭✭✭

    @Chaba.5410 said:

    @SWI.4127 said:

    @Chaba.5410 said:

    @SWI.4127 said:
    Finally got around to uploading some of the stuff I've seen. Downed players teleporting away multiple times. People in chat said maybe it's the Necro trait but I think it's pretty obvious from these clips that is not the case. Is this just lag though?

    muted because of my annoying music :#

    Downed players teleporting like that is lag. If they were using cheat software, you wouldn't have been able to get them downed in the first place. You can see you aren't even doing any damage on the downed BEAR player when you are hitting the Dcon and Goon players because his location isn't where your client thinks he is, just like when a dolyak is bugged out and teleports.

    Okay ty. I've been on the other end of this where one of our aussie players is standing in the middle of the enemy zerg because of lag and they can't kill him. I've thought "they probably think he's hacking" lol. That makes sense though. Just frustrating when it happens. I want my bag!

    Yea, I seen it happen a lot to Aussie players!

    In this video (from two years ago) the guy DC's eventually. If you notice too, his distance is always the same distance away from my client.

    LOL that is hilarious

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malavian.4695 said:
    My personal complaint about exploits in WvW is even if you report them WHO are you going to report? The Maguma Silver Knight? There are no names. If ANET doesn't patrol once in a while then the issues will continue because we don't have the tools to do anything about it.

    Block, then look in your block list. That will give you a name. But to report using the 'botting' tag, the name doesn't matter. If you want to send to exploits, the name can be ascertained with the block function. It's also how people send you salty whispers...

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  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2018

    Jesus christ were they using a string and cups for their internet connection?

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Jesus christ are they using a string and cups for their internet connection?

    Ahahahhahah!!! Ok... post of the day...

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  • Chaba.5410Chaba.5410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malavian.4695 said:
    My personal complaint about exploits in WvW is even if you report them WHO are you going to report? The Maguma Silver Knight? There are no names. If ANET doesn't patrol once in a while then the issues will continue because we don't have the tools to do anything about it.

    No name is needed to report him if you can right-click on the name. Other than that you have to block the person to see their name on your block list.

  • jediwolf.8724jediwolf.8724 Member ✭✭✭

    I watched the video that explained about the hacks and the lack of action on it. I was shocked at how long they have been used and have not been fixed.
    So many people have downloaded them. How many have been banned? Banning need to be more than a short period of time. If you hack you should be gone.
    I have reported people using hacks many times. It seems what is the point of reporting? The hacks have been going on for years.
    Can't Anet download the hacks and reverse engineer it? Why not hire a hacker to stop it?

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2018

    @jediwolf.8724 said:
    I watched the video that explained about the hacks and the lack of action on it. I was shocked at how long they have been used and have not been fixed.
    So many people have downloaded them. How many have been banned? Banning need to be more than a short period of time. If you hack you should be gone.
    I have reported people using hacks many times. It seems what is the point of reporting? The hacks have been going on for years.
    Can't Anet download the hacks and reverse engineer it? Why not hire a hacker to stop it?

    This type of third party software is available for most online games. They're usually a subscription (ironically) service with a full time Dev finding ways to mask the programs use and updating their exploits as fast as the game devs try to stop them. If you'd like more insight check out the link below, several of these crooks have spoken at defcons... After their prison stay... Yeah it's high stakes

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  • DeadlySynz.3471DeadlySynz.3471 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malavian.4695 said:
    My personal complaint about exploits in WvW is even if you report them WHO are you going to report? The Maguma Silver Knight? There are no names. If ANET doesn't patrol once in a while then the issues will continue because we don't have the tools to do anything about it.

    This is exactly why naming and shaming (and keeping an online posted list on the forums) is absolutely required and should be encourage by Anet. Have a list of offenders here, Anet can regularly check their activity. They could even dedicate a couple of Devs for this very purpose of patrolling known offenders that get posted.

    It really is a simple solution, very simple solution.

  • altermaven.7385altermaven.7385 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2018

    Sure, you say that is the simple solution, but what you would really be doing is giving the hack developers a trophy hall. The reason why most of the sweeps go under the radar is to instill a sense of panic to the developer of such tools. The reason why the sweeps aren't frequent and always in waves is not only the same reason, but it gives the tool dev(s) a harder time.

    Still, Anet will do nothing if the players don't report. What would work better though is for some way to make the cheaters, if exposed, behave like complete kittens just before they get swept off. Remember when Anet requsitioned control of a prolific cheater's account, destroyed everything the cheater owned and made him commit virtual sucide? I'm sure some of you know.

    But just to let you know, either/or, making these decisions can and often times will gloriously backfire, and much to the detriment of the people keeping sanity.

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeadlySynz.3471 said:

    @Malavian.4695 said:
    My personal complaint about exploits in WvW is even if you report them WHO are you going to report? The Maguma Silver Knight? There are no names. If ANET doesn't patrol once in a while then the issues will continue because we don't have the tools to do anything about it.

    This is exactly why naming and shaming (and keeping an online posted list on the forums) is absolutely required and should be encourage by Anet. Have a list of offenders here, Anet can regularly check their activity. They could even dedicate a couple of Devs for this very purpose of patrolling known offenders that get posted.

    It really is a simple solution, very simple solution.

    Us seeing that list means nothing to Anets ability to keep a list and monitor those players activity.

    You are making an assumption that they don't have a list and are not monitoring those players.

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  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    just remember to record, block and check the account name for reporting.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • So, in answer to the titled OP's post. Yes, of late I have noticed more hacking. Obvious hacking...like moving at super super speed around the map, hitting ME ( why...I'm such a terrible player most can kill me anyway, why hack?) from under the map, hitting me at a huge distance with insane damage. I guess previously I didn't notice it as much...maybe there wasn't as much, maybe with experience I just notice it more easily. But in any given week, I see at least one hacker...which is kinda down-heartening to see such a fun game being trashed by these players. Ruins it for me for that little while.

  • Eiffel.8937Eiffel.8937 Member ✭✭

    I wonder if anet really can do something about it, if they fixed the client the dps meters would not work either

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    WvW hackers can affect the outcome of a skirmish, tho. I mean, if a mesmer passes through walls and ports an entire zerg inside a T3 fortified structure, that will hurt the opposing server. Also, i ran into hackers recently, Deso hackers, namely a SB who just healed from 60% to full health with no skill use animation, he was porting here and there, i mean it was just for trolling, nowhere near as bad as a wall hack, but kitten, it gets on your nerves...

    It is good to know that the devs have knowledge of this, and that they monitor it. Now, banning the hackers is all that remains, I hope. Happy pvp/wvw, fellas.

  • MithranArkanere.8957MithranArkanere.8957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Nope. Practically the same as always, in proportion to active player population.

    What has changed is that you've learned more about the game, got a better feel for the ebb and flow of the combat, and you can now see more easily people doing impossible things.

    Cheaters sometimes try to be subtle. Hiding in stealth before teleporting. Moving away to look like they are out of combat before regenerating when they are actually still in combat range and were recently hit by an attack that kept them in combat. Use monster skill effects that do not have an icon. Use invisibility from NPC skills that can't be revealed and is not removed when attacking. Instantly recharge skills from traits like Lesser Endure Pain to the point people complain they are too strong, when what's actually happening is that they are triggering every 10 seconds instead every 60.

    As you play, it becomes easier to catch up.

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The last game I played had so many hackers it was ridiculous, and they were never permanently banned, at best were given a month suspension and a name change ticket. What was even more frustrating was known hackers, players that had already been banned for said crime, openly posing on the games forum that hacks didn't exist, and it was down to others 'lack of skill'. A quick google would prove them wrong. I am therefore very skeptical of any one who openly posts on any forum that no hacks exist for any game.
    With that game I could, to a degree, understand it, gear was everything, pvp was everything. But, seriously, I cannot get my head round why people feel the need here. It's just not the same kind of game. When i'm on my raptor and someone whizzes past me I silently chuckle that it was that important to someone to be able to do that. In GW2.
    It is true to say that the hacking I encountered on my last game drove many people away , and although a 'fix' had been found it was never used because guess what, the players who openly dissed any hacks also spoke out about how useless these anti hack programs were and they were never used in game.
    Hacking isn't an issue that will suddenly go away, what ever is done to solve it something else will over ride that. I don't let it spoil my enjoyment now however, who's the loser right?

  • Jski.6180Jski.6180 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I not realty seen it but if i had to guess for a reason why is because wvw is in a real boring meta now. If players are enjoying the game they tend to play fair if they are not enjoying it they tend to haxe etc...

    See ELE forms and you will get my views.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    hacks in wvw pve pvp =/ hope thye fix it.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Kamara.4187Kamara.4187 Member ✭✭✭

    Help me out here. We had a deadeye trolling us last night and they could stay perma stealth and one-shot. Someone told me "they can do that" But I can't believe any developer in their right mind would deploy such a mechanic knowingly. Is there something else going on here?

    "Love thy enemy, for without them there would be no WvW."

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kamara.4187 said:
    Help me out here. We had a deadeye trolling us last night and they could stay perma stealth and one-shot. Someone told me "they can do that" But I can't believe any developer in their right mind would deploy such a mechanic knowingly. Is there something else going on here?

    Nope that is completely possible in normal gameplay.

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  • HOW TO IDENTIFY A CHEAT/HACKER/BOOTER IN PVE:

    • As a necro with reaper, MM build and a greatsword
    • No guild representing
    • very low AP (check it by add him/her as a friend)
    • very low MP
    • killing any mobs on sight regardless of any event happening or not
    • run into dangerous fight without any dodging action
    • only use skill #1 when downed
    • do not re-spawn immediately even no player around
    • do not respond to any private chat
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