I don't even care about the shiny shiny weapons.
I just want stat/gear swap on demand so I can play this gamemode without having to take out a second loan.
if we can get a reward track for every zone/map required to get Gift of Exploration, that would be amazing. If I am not mistaken there are 25 zones/maps needed for GoE.
so that'll be 25 reward tracks to get GoE through wvw. that's a fair trade right? by OP's standards it takes 6 hours to complete a reward track, 25*6 = 150. so 150 hours to get GoE. I am ok with that.
@Balthazzarr.1349 said:
It's too bad you can't give away the gift of battle. I got too many of them... pfft.
You can sell them on the gray market, along with all of the other gifts. Going rate for the entire process is about 400 gold:
Seller supplies all the bound currencies & items, including the Gift of Battle, the Gift of Exploration, mystic clover, the relevant dungeon gift, and anything else that is account bound.
Buyer supplies all the unbound mats, the precursor, gold for the Icy Runestones, mystic coins for the clover, and so on.
There are people who will serve as escrow agents at the GW2 Exchange sub-Reddit, usually for a small fee (depending on the items/effort involved). There are some well-known buyers there, too, who I'd trust to hold up their end of the deal (because their financial status depends in part on their reputation).
Roughly speaking, it's a great deal if you do World Completion for fun and do plenty of dungeons/WvW to keep you supplied in the account bound currencies.
If it's something that interests you, I can advise about the specific risks/benefits.
edit: updated a lot of the text, since some people were confused as to what was being sold
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It occurred to me the other night that one of the most prestigious in game items could very well be the SAB Tribulation boom box.
Think about it, you spend 6 hours on a wvw reward track and you get a guaranteed item at the end, but you spend 6 hours on 1 of 3 areas in SAB and all you have to look forward to is 12 or more hours next year.
@Balthazzarr.1349 said:
It's too bad you can't give away the gift of battle. I got too many of them... pfft.
You can sell them on the gray market. Going rate is about 400 gold:
Seller supplies all the account bound currencies.
Buyer supplies all the unbound mats, the precursor, gold for the Icy Runestones, mystic coins for the clover, and so on.
There are people who will serve as escrow agents at the GW2 Exchange sub-Reddit, usually for a small fee (depending on the items/effort involved). There are some well-known buyers there, too, who I'd trust to hold up their end of the deal (because their financial status depends in part on their reputation).
Roughly speaking, it's a great deal if you do World Completion for fun and do plenty of dungeons/WvW to keep you supplied in the account bound currencies.
If it's something that interests you, I can advise about the specific risks/benefits.
Gift of battle's value is about 50g. GoE is valued at 400 gold, approximately.
@Balthazzarr.1349 said:
It's too bad you can't give away the gift of battle. I got too many of them... pfft.
You can sell them on the gray market. Going rate is about 400 gold:
Seller supplies all the account bound currencies.
Buyer supplies all the unbound mats, the precursor, gold for the Icy Runestones, mystic coins for the clover, and so on.
There are people who will serve as escrow agents at the GW2 Exchange sub-Reddit, usually for a small fee (depending on the items/effort involved). There are some well-known buyers there, too, who I'd trust to hold up their end of the deal (because their financial status depends in part on their reputation).
Roughly speaking, it's a great deal if you do World Completion for fun and do plenty of dungeons/WvW to keep you supplied in the account bound currencies.
If it's something that interests you, I can advise about the specific risks/benefits.
Gift of battle's value is about 50g. GoE is valued at 400 gold, approximately.
Oh oops, yeah, gift of exploration. Thanks. Sorry about that @Balthazzarr.1349
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@Last Crysis.1934 said:
Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.
NO.
They already made it so you no longer have to go into WvW for map completion. Anything more and they may was well revamp the entire game.
I don't want to have to go and do map complete in PvE only. They should just give away the gift of exploration because I dont like PvE
I don't want to farm for gold either. Lets just make all materials free. Cause I find farming boring.
Lets just dumb down the game so everyone can just have everything with no effort.
Cause that's basically what you're asking for.
Reward with no effort
Actually, they removed map comp from wvw because pvers used to flood the maps and not participate in wvw stuff... That aside, GoB is pretty easy to get, I agree
Actually they moved it because pvers cried and cried and cried about it.
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@BMW.2951 said:
If a carebear complains about it... surely it will make pvp better right?
Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company.
Gen 2 legendaries can be bought from tp now? Oh wait
You don't have to collect a legendary if you don't enjoy getting someting in wvw man. If ANET didn't have this requirement for making pve players play the awesome wvw mode, then wvw would be even more dead.
@BMW.2951 said:
If a carebear complains about it... surely it will make pvp better right?
Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company.
Gen 2 legendaries can be bought from tp now? Oh wait
You don't have to collect a legendary if you don't enjoy getting someting in wvw man. If ANET didn't have this requirement for making pve players play the awesome wvw mode, then wvw would be even more dead.
"Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company."
How does that comment even remotely have anything to do with me enjoying wvw? You said" buy leggy from tp", I asked "how can you buy gen2 leggies?"
Now your answer is... "You dont have to get a leggy if you dont enjoy something"
Really?
@BMW.2951 said:
If a carebear complains about it... surely it will make pvp better right?
Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company.
Gen 2 legendaries can be bought from tp now? Oh wait
You don't have to collect a legendary if you don't enjoy getting someting in wvw man. If ANET didn't have this requirement for making pve players play the awesome wvw mode, then wvw would be even more dead.
"Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company."
How does that comment even remotely have anything to do with me enjoying wvw? You said" buy leggy from tp", I asked "how can you buy gen2 leggies?"
Now your answer is... "You dont have to get a leggy if you dont enjoy something"
Really?
True story bro. It's either:
Deal with wvw and get the gift of battle/legendary
or
Don't play wvw if you don't like the game mode and stop crying.
Butttttt...
If you go with option 2, you will still end up crying because you won't get that legendary you want.
@Last Crysis.1934 said:
Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.
well i have to do kitten stories and other pve content in order to get some kitten done i want also while i prefer park my kitten in WvW and get my story line done by doing nothing so i unlock my reward tracks that way also!
but hey cant please all and why kitten would u repair walls for participation?
go run and kill people its faster then hugging these walls using supplies on useless walls.
@BMW.2951 said:
If a carebear complains about it... surely it will make pvp better right?
Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company.
Gen 2 legendaries can be bought from tp now? Oh wait
You don't have to collect a legendary if you don't enjoy getting someting in wvw man. If ANET didn't have this requirement for making pve players play the awesome wvw mode, then wvw would be even more dead.
"Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company."
How does that comment even remotely have anything to do with me enjoying wvw? You said" buy leggy from tp", I asked "how can you buy gen2 leggies?"
Now your answer is... "You dont have to get a leggy if you dont enjoy something"
Really?
True story bro. It's either:
Deal with wvw and get the gift of battle/legendary
or
Don't play wvw if you don't like the game mode and stop crying.
Butttttt...
If you go with option 2, you will still end up crying because you won't get that legendary you want.
So.....
Option 1 only works.
Sooooo. You assume i dont wvw. Which i do daily 4-6 hours. Now that we got that cleared, bro, would you be so kind as to tell me the way a Gen2 legendary is purchaseable via tp? Oh. There isnt one.
People just wish they had bought them when they were 500 badges each.
Also GoB is perfectly doable with dailies alone. Within 10-12 days. But complainers will complain...
@Last Crysis.1934 said:
Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.
+1 Anet make sure u remove map completion from the game while you are at it too cuz i find it kitten and boring to run arround PVE maps for 72+ hours feeding pigs and washing cows to get my legendaries kkthbye
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@Last Crysis.1934 said:
Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.
How are you playing? Have you tried running around solo, hitting the tiny camps? If you have a durable support-type build (I use Druid) you can usually take out a tiny camp on your own, better yet, you may run into another roamer or two and be able to take them out together. (Watch out for the invulnerable NPC, they are on a timer, but it will run out if you keep them from killing you for a few minutes.) You can also keep an eye on any of the NPC areas bordering your territory, waiting for a chance to take them over or renew your alliance. Rewards come slower like this than when you are in the big zerg, but it's a heck of a lot more fun. And yeah, you will still die sometimes. If you have any speed boost or stealth-type skills, it may help you to outrun and escape enemies you don't want to fight. (Though the occasional one-on-one slugfest is kind of fun, too, if you don't care a lot whether you win it.)
I pretty much run from camp to camp killing any npc I can or I repair a wall. I hate all forms of pvp it stresses me out so if I see another player I try to tp away, if I can't I just /sit and let them kill me. Having to go up against another player that t know I will loss against just stresses me out and that ends up making me nauseous. I did not start playing this game to be stressed. So yes be force into WvW where I have to pvp is ruining the game.
The problem isn’t WvW and gift of battle, your problem is yourself.
If you’re getting nauseous from the stress of making some pixels fight then you need to get help and at the very least a reality check.
Edit: If you absolutely cannot stand WvW do the WvW dailies and you get potions for reward track progress. Do the easy ones every day and you will eventually get GoB without having to see another soul.
@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
Put another way: even if ANet agrees with you today that the requirement is too onerous, it's going to be months before they change the acquisition method, probably longer.
I feel like adding back the merchant that used to sell them is the work of a few minutes at most.
Because they should never have removed that kitten NPC to begin with, that way worked perfectly fine for literally years.
@BMW.2951 said:
If a carebear complains about it... surely it will make pvp better right?
Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company.
Gen 2 legendaries can be bought from tp now? Oh wait
You don't have to collect a legendary if you don't enjoy getting someting in wvw man. If ANET didn't have this requirement for making pve players play the awesome wvw mode, then wvw would be even more dead.
"Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company."
How does that comment even remotely have anything to do with me enjoying wvw? You said" buy leggy from tp", I asked "how can you buy gen2 leggies?"
Now your answer is... "You dont have to get a leggy if you dont enjoy something"
Really?
True story bro. It's either:
Deal with wvw and get the gift of battle/legendary
or
Don't play wvw if you don't like the game mode and stop crying.
Butttttt...
If you go with option 2, you will still end up crying because you won't get that legendary you want.
So.....
Option 1 only works.
Sooooo. You assume i dont wvw. Which i do daily 4-6 hours. Now that we got that cleared, bro, would you be so kind as to tell me the way a Gen2 legendary is purchaseable via tp? Oh. There isnt one.
People just wish they had bought them when they were 500 badges each.
Also GoB is perfectly doable with dailies alone. Within 10-12 days. But complainers will complain...
It is my bad. I misread you wanted a newer legendary. Sorry
@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
Put another way: even if ANet agrees with you today that the requirement is too onerous, it's going to be months before they change the acquisition method, probably longer.
I feel like adding back the merchant that used to sell them is the work of a few minutes at most.
Because they should never have removed that kitten NPC to begin with, that way worked perfectly fine for literally years.
Lots has changed.
So, provide the merchant and add WvW back to map completion.
pls make GoB harder to get, so people who got legendaries actually deserve them.
Ya realize that with leggy crafting now that those crafting from scratch who need GoB deserve the leggy's they make right? Even if they got a pre drop, if someone is crafting the rest (using mats grinded beforehand or are grinding them now) also deserve the leggy's they make.
Imo your statement appears a bit ignorant if not a bit elitist.
fyi...WvW is my main method and have a ton of GoB's, however my point was less about how easy it is to get them and more about your statements ignorance of who deserve a legendary or who is worthy of such.
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@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:
Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.
Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least some of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.
@Last Crysis.1934 said:
Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.
NO.
They already made it so you no longer have to go into WvW for map completion. Anything more and they may was well revamp the entire game.
I don't want to have to go and do map complete in PvE only. They should just give away the gift of exploration because I dont like PvE
I don't want to farm for gold either. Lets just make all materials free. Cause I find farming boring.
Lets just dumb down the game so everyone can just have everything with no effort.
Cause that's basically what you're asking for.
Reward with no effort
Actually, they removed map comp from wvw because pvers used to flood the maps and not participate in wvw stuff... That aside, GoB is pretty easy to get, I agree
Actually they moved it because pvers cried and cried and cried about it.
There was more to it than that. It was literally impossible to get wvw map completion if you were stuck in a certain situation in wvw. At least every other item to get a legendary is possible through individual time and effort. But wvw map completion requires that your server actually own or take every part of wvw at some point. I was on ET back when ET/FC/SF were grouped forever, and SF always dominated and always owned their home keep in EB. The POI and vista in the green EB home keep were literally the only things keeping me from a leg for several months, and there was absolutely nothing I could do to get those items due to my server's position (other than pay a fee to transfer, which is not fair to make as a requirement for a leg and I wouldn't have done anyway). I could have done wvw 24/7 and never gotten those items. At one point many months later we ended up against GoM in green, and they very generously agreed to let ET take their EB keep just so the many of us who needed those items for WC could get them (I of course missed this window and had to wait 2 more months, but it was still a great gesture).
It wasn't just "crying" about it, it was because it was the only leg item that you couldn't get at all by individual effort and time.
@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:
Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.
Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least some of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.
To be perfectly honest with ourselves, the term "legendary weapon" nowadays has little legendary feeling attached to it. I mean, anyone can buy a gen1 leggy with lots of farming in a short time, Gen2 legendaries can be pretty much bought (apart maybe from the 4 first ones)... Still, that being said, GoB should really be the least of someone's concern, as it is easily farmable with just easy wvw dailies (you dont even have to interact with other players)
@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:
Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.
Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least some of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.
Post a link to that thread, since that would be a first instead of someone using it as a rebuttal to all the whiners wanting GoB without doing the Required content.
@Last Crysis.1934 said:
Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.
NO.
They already made it so you no longer have to go into WvW for map completion. Anything more and they may was well revamp the entire game.
I don't want to have to go and do map complete in PvE only. They should just give away the gift of exploration because I dont like PvE
I don't want to farm for gold either. Lets just make all materials free. Cause I find farming boring.
Lets just dumb down the game so everyone can just have everything with no effort.
Cause that's basically what you're asking for.
Reward with no effort
Actually, they removed map comp from wvw because pvers used to flood the maps and not participate in wvw stuff... That aside, GoB is pretty easy to get, I agree
Actually they moved it because pvers cried and cried and cried about it.
This is correct. The forums were flooded with ,"How do you require this of me!" posts, and voila it got removed.
pls make GoB harder to get, so people who got legendaries actually deserve them.
Ya realize that with leggy crafting now that those crafting from scratch who need GoB deserve the leggy's they make right? Even if they got a pre drop, if someone is crafting the rest (using mats grinded beforehand or are grinding them now) also deserve the leggy's they make.
Imo your statement appears a bit ignorant if not a bit elitist.
fyi...WvW is my main method and have a ton of GoB's, however my point was less about how easy it is to get them and more about your statements ignorance of who deserve a legendary or who is worthy of such.
I seriously wish I had NEVER started crafting Bifrost. Wasted way too many materials listening to a former guildie tell me how easy it was. Yeah, if you PvE for hours a day maybe. Got Zap as a drop, and had bolt made nearly immediately, but yeah that crafting grind, ugh
pls make GoB harder to get, so people who got legendaries actually deserve them.
Ya realize that with leggy crafting now that those crafting from scratch who need GoB deserve the leggy's they make right? Even if they got a pre drop, if someone is crafting the rest (using mats grinded beforehand or are grinding them now) also deserve the leggy's they make.
Imo your statement appears a bit ignorant if not a bit elitist.
fyi...WvW is my main method and have a ton of GoB's, however my point was less about how easy it is to get them and more about your statements ignorance of who deserve a legendary or who is worthy of such.
I seriously wish I had NEVER started crafting Bifrost. Wasted way too many materials listening to a former guildie tell me how easy it was. Yeah, if you PvE for hours a day maybe.
If one can put up with all the f'n grind for them, then god bless em as they def deserve it
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We used to be able to buy the gift of battle with wvw currency, but Anet changed it to the wvw track. It would've been nice if they'd have told us beforehand to I could've used my wvw currency on it
@aandiarie.7195 said:
We used to be able to buy the gift of battle with wvw currency, but Anet changed it to the wvw track. It would've been nice if they'd have told us beforehand to I could've used my wvw currency on it
They did, they have a warning of a couple months before they removed it.... just saying
There is one way to get Gift of Battle less excruciating for players that hate wvw. You go to the Hills Keep on east side of the borderlands, there is a bridge leading to the Lords Room, GET OVER IT.
@aandiarie.7195 said:
We used to be able to buy the gift of battle with wvw currency, but Anet changed it to the wvw track. It would've been nice if they'd have told us beforehand to I could've used my wvw currency on it
They did, they have a warning of a couple months before they removed it.... just saying
XD I didn't see that, otherwise I'd have stocked up
@aandiarie.7195 said:
We used to be able to buy the gift of battle with wvw currency, but Anet changed it to the wvw track. It would've been nice if they'd have told us beforehand to I could've used my wvw currency on it
They did, they have a warning of a couple months before they removed it.... just saying
XD I didn't see that, otherwise I'd have stocked up
It was buried in the longest patch notes up to that date, in the WvW section, so a lot of people missed it. And others that noticed it thought we'd get a warning before it actually happened (since the patch notes didn't say), and that was then (as is now) the more common practice: tell us it's happening, then later get a specific date, then implement. It was pretty easy to miss.
Even though I was among those who failed to stock up, I can't agree that it's too burdensome. It can be done very slowly without stepping foot in WvW & moderately quickly doing PvE-like dailies. And for those who want it quickly, it can be done in 6-12 hours, which seems to me barely grindful given how long everything else takes.
To me, the main issue is that some people just hate the idea of competitive gaming (I can't blame them; that was me when I started GW2).
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@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:
Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.
Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least some of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.
Post a link to that thread, since that would be a first instead of someone using it as a rebuttal to all the whiners wanting GoB without doing the Required content.
@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
It was buried in the longest patch notes up to that date, in the WvW section, so a lot of people missed it. And others that noticed it thought we'd get a warning before it actually happened (since the patch notes didn't say), and that was then (as is now) the more common practice: tell us it's happening, then later get a specific date, then implement. It was pretty easy to miss.
Yeah, the whole thing was incredibly shady, to the point that I suspect Anet did it that way specifically to catch people off guard.
Just last night I progressed about half of the reward track from using the consumables from the daily chests. I had been holding onto everything for the past month. The only WvW dailies that I had really been doing were to spend badges, monuments, and veteran creature. There may have been a few camps and yaks dailies done. All of this without interacting with a single enemy player.
@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:
Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.
Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least some of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.
Post a link to that thread, since that would be a first instead of someone using it as a rebuttal to all the whiners wanting GoB without doing the Required content.
You have no clue whatsoever. You can't even get into the green ebg keep with just a few people when the enemy outnumbers you 24/7. I played a lot of wvw back then specifically trying to get those final few items and it was literally impossible. Don't tell me I'm wrong, you weren't there. It was impossible.
And for your information, I've been at fractal level 100 forever and have 4 alts with 150 AR. Your condescension is disgusting.
It was not 'impossible', I did it five times. It was 'hard'. Too hard? maybe, it certainly enraged people like you.
Not sure what your fractal level has to do with wvw or your argument that it didn't make people cry, when you're still upset enough to be quite upset years later
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@Blanche Neige.7241 said:
ah, but on some servers, when a PVE player goes into WvW to get his GoB, he also take the spot of a WvW player who has to sit in queue for XX minutes.
Umm.. news flash, the queues aren't significant. There is always a map to play unless it's reset.
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I don't even care about the shiny shiny weapons.
I just want stat/gear swap on demand so I can play this gamemode without having to take out a second loan.
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Maybe you'd enjoy it more if you learned how to play your class and at least fight instead of /sit any time someone attacks you
if we can get a reward track for every zone/map required to get Gift of Exploration, that would be amazing. If I am not mistaken there are 25 zones/maps needed for GoE.
so that'll be 25 reward tracks to get GoE through wvw. that's a fair trade right? by OP's standards it takes 6 hours to complete a reward track, 25*6 = 150. so 150 hours to get GoE. I am ok with that.
You can sell them on the gray market, along with all of the other gifts. Going rate for the entire process is about 400 gold:
There are people who will serve as escrow agents at the GW2 Exchange sub-Reddit, usually for a small fee (depending on the items/effort involved). There are some well-known buyers there, too, who I'd trust to hold up their end of the deal (because their financial status depends in part on their reputation).
Roughly speaking, it's a great deal if you do World Completion for fun and do plenty of dungeons/WvW to keep you supplied in the account bound currencies.
If it's something that interests you, I can advise about the specific risks/benefits.
edit: updated a lot of the text, since some people were confused as to what was being sold
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its so easy to get
Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.
It occurred to me the other night that one of the most prestigious in game items could very well be the SAB Tribulation boom box.
Think about it, you spend 6 hours on a wvw reward track and you get a guaranteed item at the end, but you spend 6 hours on 1 of 3 areas in SAB and all you have to look forward to is 12 or more hours next year.
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Maybe they should make both fractals and raids far easier (and reasonably solable), so we can get the items from them. Is that a good trade off?
Gift of battle's value is about 50g. GoE is valued at 400 gold, approximately.
Oh oops, yeah, gift of exploration. Thanks. Sorry about that @Balthazzarr.1349
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400 gold? Jeez, I'll do it myself.
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Fort Aspenwood.
mmmm... wish those can be traded.
my i am too lazy to do this goe
Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.
Actually they moved it because pvers cried and cried and cried about it.
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It makes no sense to get a gift of battle without doing the battle part.
'just in case' I've the path suspended at 99%
=> no further garbage in the bank and still fast access, if needed 
Points to signature...gotta do the thing if you want to have the thing...
6hrs of WvW is nothing compared to Map Completion, Dungeons and waiting for PvE events to happen, you know, the things dedicated WvWers need to step out of their favorite game mode for if they want a legy.
If you want X, and Y is needed to get get X, you also have to want Y if you really want X. If you don't want Y, you don't want X. It's easy.
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You don't have to collect a legendary if you don't enjoy getting someting in wvw man. If ANET didn't have this requirement for making pve players play the awesome wvw mode, then wvw would be even more dead.
"Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol
Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company."
How does that comment even remotely have anything to do with me enjoying wvw? You said" buy leggy from tp", I asked "how can you buy gen2 leggies?"
Now your answer is... "You dont have to get a leggy if you dont enjoy something"
Really?
True story bro. It's either:
or
Butttttt...
If you go with option 2, you will still end up crying because you won't get that legendary you want.
So.....
Option 1 only works.
well i have to do kitten stories and other pve content in order to get some kitten done i want also while i prefer park my kitten in WvW and get my story line done by doing nothing so i unlock my reward tracks that way also!
but hey cant please all and why kitten would u repair walls for participation?
go run and kill people its faster then hugging these walls using supplies on useless walls.
Sooooo. You assume i dont wvw. Which i do daily 4-6 hours. Now that we got that cleared, bro, would you be so kind as to tell me the way a Gen2 legendary is purchaseable via tp? Oh. There isnt one.
People just wish they had bought them when they were 500 badges each.
Also GoB is perfectly doable with dailies alone. Within 10-12 days. But complainers will complain...
+1 Anet make sure u remove map completion from the game while you are at it too cuz i find it kitten and boring to run arround PVE maps for 72+ hours feeding pigs and washing cows to get my legendaries kkthbye
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The problem isn’t WvW and gift of battle, your problem is yourself.
If you’re getting nauseous from the stress of making some pixels fight then you need to get help and at the very least a reality check.
Edit: If you absolutely cannot stand WvW do the WvW dailies and you get potions for reward track progress. Do the easy ones every day and you will eventually get GoB without having to see another soul.
Is damage too high?
I feel like adding back the merchant that used to sell them is the work of a few minutes at most.
Because they should never have removed that kitten NPC to begin with, that way worked perfectly fine for literally years.
It is my bad. I misread you wanted a newer legendary. Sorry
Lots has changed.
So, provide the merchant and add WvW back to map completion.
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pls make GoB harder to get, so people who got legendaries actually deserve them.
Ya realize that with leggy crafting now that those crafting from scratch who need GoB deserve the leggy's they make right? Even if they got a pre drop, if someone is crafting the rest (using mats grinded beforehand or are grinding them now) also deserve the leggy's they make.
Imo your statement appears a bit ignorant if not a bit elitist.
fyi...WvW is my main method and have a ton of GoB's, however my point was less about how easy it is to get them and more about your statements ignorance of who deserve a legendary or who is worthy of such.
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Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least some of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.
There was more to it than that. It was literally impossible to get wvw map completion if you were stuck in a certain situation in wvw. At least every other item to get a legendary is possible through individual time and effort. But wvw map completion requires that your server actually own or take every part of wvw at some point. I was on ET back when ET/FC/SF were grouped forever, and SF always dominated and always owned their home keep in EB. The POI and vista in the green EB home keep were literally the only things keeping me from a leg for several months, and there was absolutely nothing I could do to get those items due to my server's position (other than pay a fee to transfer, which is not fair to make as a requirement for a leg and I wouldn't have done anyway). I could have done wvw 24/7 and never gotten those items. At one point many months later we ended up against GoM in green, and they very generously agreed to let ET take their EB keep just so the many of us who needed those items for WC could get them (I of course missed this window and had to wait 2 more months, but it was still a great gesture).
It wasn't just "crying" about it, it was because it was the only leg item that you couldn't get at all by individual effort and time.
To be perfectly honest with ourselves, the term "legendary weapon" nowadays has little legendary feeling attached to it. I mean, anyone can buy a gen1 leggy with lots of farming in a short time, Gen2 legendaries can be pretty much bought (apart maybe from the 4 first ones)... Still, that being said, GoB should really be the least of someone's concern, as it is easily farmable with just easy wvw dailies (you dont even have to interact with other players)
Post a link to that thread, since that would be a first instead of someone using it as a rebuttal to all the whiners wanting GoB without doing the Required content.
This is correct. The forums were flooded with ,"How do you require this of me!" posts, and voila it got removed.
I seriously wish I had NEVER started crafting Bifrost. Wasted way too many materials listening to a former guildie tell me how easy it was. Yeah, if you PvE for hours a day maybe. Got Zap as a drop, and had bolt made nearly immediately, but yeah that crafting grind, ugh
If one can put up with all the f'n grind for them, then god bless em as they def deserve it
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We used to be able to buy the gift of battle with wvw currency, but Anet changed it to the wvw track. It would've been nice if they'd have told us beforehand to I could've used my wvw currency on it
They did, they have a warning of a couple months before they removed it.... just saying
There is one way to get Gift of Battle less excruciating for players that hate wvw. You go to the Hills Keep on east side of the borderlands, there is a bridge leading to the Lords Room, GET OVER IT.
XD I didn't see that, otherwise I'd have stocked up
It was buried in the longest patch notes up to that date, in the WvW section, so a lot of people missed it. And others that noticed it thought we'd get a warning before it actually happened (since the patch notes didn't say), and that was then (as is now) the more common practice: tell us it's happening, then later get a specific date, then implement. It was pretty easy to miss.
Even though I was among those who failed to stock up, I can't agree that it's too burdensome. It can be done very slowly without stepping foot in WvW & moderately quickly doing PvE-like dailies. And for those who want it quickly, it can be done in 6-12 hours, which seems to me barely grindful given how long everything else takes.
To me, the main issue is that some people just hate the idea of competitive gaming (I can't blame them; that was me when I started GW2).
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Member when this game required wvw map completion for a legendary.
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Dont look a gift Asura in the mouth.
No seriously, dont. Shark teeth.
https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/36856/reward-tracks-are-still-dull#latest
Item #2, requesting to get GoE via reward tracks because he hates PvE.
Yeah, the whole thing was incredibly shady, to the point that I suspect Anet did it that way specifically to catch people off guard.
Just last night I progressed about half of the reward track from using the consumables from the daily chests. I had been holding onto everything for the past month. The only WvW dailies that I had really been doing were to spend badges, monuments, and veteran creature. There may have been a few camps and yaks dailies done. All of this without interacting with a single enemy player.
GoB should be in wvw. Most legendary weapons just require materials you can buy straight off the tp. Nothing challenging there, honestly.
There is actually nothing about GoE in that point, RC to stronk...
It was not 'impossible', I did it five times. It was 'hard'. Too hard? maybe, it certainly enraged people like you.
Not sure what your fractal level has to do with wvw or your argument that it didn't make people cry, when you're still upset enough to be quite upset years later
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ah, but on some servers, when a PVE player goes into WvW to get his GoB, he also take the spot of a WvW player who has to sit in queue for XX minutes.
Umm.. news flash, the queues aren't significant. There is always a map to play unless it's reset.
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On a scale of 1 to OP, how lazy are you?