Reward Tracks are still dull
Blackarps.1974
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Even after a few changes here and there, they are still pretty dull. I love that we can right click the chests now to just instantly put them in our inventory now but the rewards themselves are pretty lacking. I'm also fully aware of AFK pip and reward track farming while making these suggestions.
Here are a few things that I think could be changed/tweaked.
- Mist-Warped Packet. These only have 2 mats in them. Seems okay but what about a wider variety in materials inside and say maybe bump it up to 5 in each packet? That or change it as you normally would where you get more of lower tier mats but less of higher tier, meaning 5 of T1 but 2 T6. Ascended materials are always nice, not the dragonite ore, emp fragments, or bloodstone dust though...no more of those, please!
- Final rewards for each reward track a pretty meh. Its mostly mystic clovers and heroics. It would be nice to have something a little more enticing or maybe a way to break down clovers? That might hurt the economy though. The Hero Weapon track just gives a yellow item (thank to whoever made this an item and not just a skin btw, I've been forging them since this track seems the most profitable and has the best chances for ascended boxes). One thing someone talked about before was potentially adding a gift of Maguuma or Desert mastery as the final reward? This would be amazing. Anything that let's us keep playing WvW while working for a legendary would be fantastic. There really are some of us who highly dislike PvE.
- The siege boxes are kind of a nuisance. How about putting just a stack of say 10 normal and 5 superior at the end of the track instead of constantly giving us a few that take up inventory space. That might just be a nit-picking thing but I like my inventory clean as possible so I'm not stuck leaving bags behind. Tomes of knowledge are kind of that way too and can be annoying but leaving them scattered is probably better overall for players trying to level through WvW.
- What about ascended inventory bags earned via reward tracks or maybe a way to craft them? Maybe buy them with skirmish tickets?
- Something more to do with badges of honor would be great too. As in, more things to spend them on or craft with.
I'm sure there are other things that could be added but those are the ones off the top of my head.
While also on the topic of rewards, what about potentially making rank up chests a bit more interesting too? When you hit Diamond, maybe bump it from 30-35s up to just 1g per rank up? Once you hit 6445 rank, its pretty boring until you hit 10,000. No more extra pips each week or anything. Either that or make 10k give the extra boost in gold to give people something to work for.
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Personally would love to see the reward tracks remade to focus on single type of reward, so you can basically pick what to go for.
Basically, instead of giving us a little bit of everything in all tracks, allow players to pick what to focus on. And have a couple of "a bit of everything" ones as well. Just let people choose what they want to work towards.
This means that some reward tracks might give mess overall stuff (but better), and others might just give you a pile of low value stuff etc.
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Reward tracks take a few hours to complete, they'll never put gift of maguma or gift of desert in there. ( and they shouldn't)
at least we have rewards now. No serious WvW player cares beyond paying for consumables and armor. Stop whining.
@joneirikb.7506 That wouldn't be a bad idea actually. It would be much more easy to tell what you're going to get out of a certain track.
@FitzChevalerie.1035 It takes ~5 hours to map complete HoT maps and that is with full masteries like gliding and mounts. I wouldn't even mind doing a reward track twice to get the such gift.
@Trajan.4953 So we aren't allowed to want more or to have some tweaks made? Also, I'm Diamond and have UD so I think I'm a pretty serious WvW player.
That is just plain and simply not true.
While it is nice to be getting at least something compared to nothing like it was in the past, I still care about gold and (at least somewhat equal) rewards.
What really gets to me is the fact that the new reward track infusion they added only gives 5% lol.
On a base gain at T6 of 195 it is only an increase of about 10 points every 5min... or 120 points every hour.
Even better, this infusion lowers the amount of ticks needed to finish a reward track from 53 all the way down to 52 ticks hahaha.
I wish they at gave more base track progress or a few more tiers to make base a bit higher...
I think you have to have a more diverse look at WvW rewards:
1. There are loot bags from killed enemies (and things dropped from NPCs, Lords and supervisors)
2. then, there is the reward chest you get from participation ticks (wood... diamond chest)
3. and finally the WvW tracks (which just sum up over all participation over time)
Of all the Reward Tracks, only...
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Triumphant_Armor_Reward_Track
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gift_of_Battle_Item_Reward_Track
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hero_Weapon_Reward_Track
and https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legacy_Armor_Reward_Track are exclusive to WvW (most the tracks are general tracks available in PvP too)
The Legacy and the Gift tracks reward you with additional Tomes, the Triumphant and Hero tracks with additional siege blueprints.
I personally do not think that the WvW tracks are better or worse than other tracks.
If there is room for improvement, I would rather see the "tick chests" buffed, e.g. by adding more Mystic Coins there and increasing the amount of fine and rare Mist-Wrapped Bundles, starting from the Bronze chests and progressing onward to higher value chests. Currently Mystic Coins are only in the Gold (2) and Diamond (4) chest. Adding one each to Bronze, Silver, Platinum and Mithril would be great.
I wish there would be only one WvW enrichment that would combine both. Having two WvW guild buffs you have to chose from is inconvenient enough.
It would definitely be nice to have them both. This is why I bought the Candy Corn Gobbler though. The experience booster helps so much and makes you feel like you're actually making progress to your reward track and level/rank. +50% on both was a good enough boost for me to invest in the gobbler and all the candy corn needed to keep the boost going. Now with everything setup, I'm getting +322 reward track gain per tick.
The problem is, using the gobler/exp booster shouldnt be the solution to gaining adequate reward track progress...
You are right, and it is not. Adequate (which is defined by an individuals perspective thus impossible to accurately quantify) track process is what you get with no boosters.
A booster is just that: a boost to the average. I like how we can close to double it if we have the boosters in place.
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I just want more tickets.
I still dont know why the Silverwastes Reward track is not repeatable.
Somewhere chasing bags....
We could spice it up: put an equal chance in the last chest to open it and either get 4000 gold, or an account deletion! Talk about not boring!!!
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Loot should be more fun...
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I like the idea of having some more specialized tracks, additionally the tracks that I really enjoy are the dungeon tracks. The layout of those is something I wouldn't mind seeing replicated elsewhere. you get basic loot, a few weapons and then a choice of armor at the end. I feel like there is more they could do with that formula particularly with the new POF content. Their PoF reward tracks are mostly tat and could use some beefing up and it would also be nice if they could use the tracks to reintroduce older stuff that isn't achievable elsewhere like with the legacy armor track. Random loot drops from bags are great and all, but what is the most attractive to me with reward tracks is that I have guaranteed rewards not tied to RNG, i'd like to see them work more with that.
my only gripe right now is the ticket cap. one amulet is like 260 and we only get 365? per week. a ring is like 360. an earring is 175? thats like 4 weeks to get 5 ascended items.
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Which it's much faster to run the area tracks that provide the currency to buy them in different areas. While getting tickets.
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This is what I did. Complete each of them a few times to have enough of the currencies so if I need to build change, I can have all my trinkets for "free". Now I'm just back to doing Istan or the Hero track over and over.
i like your suggestion op. i have wanted better rewards in wvw sins the pips system shipped. would like to add an base amount of gold to the chests as it is in spvp's system.
No thank you. I really don't need more exotic weapons and armor and if I did, there are already tracks for that. Many of them.
The PoF tracks really need the one box redoing, forget what its called but its 4 or recipes you will choose once, flax fibers which are now worth nothing and we get more than enough for scribing and a food for ON DISMOUNT... in wvw really?
I'd like tracks containing things useful for the wvw legendary crafting or to help buy t2 ascended gear, mats to make the crafting tokens, mats used to craft legendaries. Or more tickets would be really nice.
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Absolutely not. You can't get Gift of Battle doing PvE, it's there to ensure that people put some time into wvw to earn a legendary. The reverse applies for Gifts of Mastery -- you shouldn't be able to get those anywhere but putting time into PvE. Believe it or not, there are plenty of people who hate wvw but have had to grind it out for the Gift of Battle.
Please stop using common sense. It is insulting.
Actually you can get GoB without WvW funnily enough but hey whatever it’s not like facts are important. #pvecurrencyconverters
Yop, that exact one https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Desert_Crafting_Material_Coffer
Its pain... i just stack em and dont open....
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Not legitimately. If there are hacks or black market ways to get it, that doesn't invalidate my statement.
Not hacks and not black Market ways literally just have to use the PvE Currency Converters and you can get the GoB without Playing WvW, I know facts are pesky..
How? They removed the only way to buy it, through Badges of Honor.
Use Converter to get BoHs then purchase Things from WvW vendor when WvW Big Spender is Daily get Reward potion rinse Repeat, never have to do a single participation of WvW, this has been a thing since they made the change.
Doesn't it take like, weeks?
So? It’s perfectly possible and viable to do it and if doing WvW is so stressful/horrible for those that don’t want to WvW for the GoB which is meant to be obtained from participating in WvW then it’s a perfect solution, they give up the 4-8 hrs needed to acquire GoB in a timely manner.
Again the equivalent GoE doesn’t have any equivalent way to fully acquire without participating in PvE, while GoB is able to be acquired without a single ounce of Particpation in WvW
I don't think "grinding" is the word for Gift of Battle. Its just a reward track and you barely have to do any work for it. Before when you had to buy it, it was either quicker or slower depending on your server. Now its just a steady gain and you can at least get other things you need for a legendary while doing it like clovers and mats, things you don't really get while doing map completion. I mean, I do realize that asking for a Gift of Maguuma mastery is a stretch but some kind of improvement needs to be made to these tracks to make them interesting. Dated weapon skins and rares just don't do anything for some people.
Please specify precisely which Currency Converter will give you badges of honor.
You use the Currency Converters mainly the Ley-Matter or Karmic and you can get the Bag Of WvW supplies which provide WvW XP which gives BoHs again PvErs never have to participate in WvW to get GoB now combine this with Achievement Chests that give BoH and the Guild Hall Vendor that can also sell Bag of WvW Supplies combine all these together and boom PvErs never need to sullie themselves in WvW participation.
ProTip: Buy the Cheapest Armor for the Big Spender Daily, you get 20 BoH from the Daily then Salvage the Armor to get some BoH from the Salvage, gotta maximize efficiency of those BoHs
No hacks, no cheats, no black market just pure PvE to acquire the GoB, and again this has been known for a very long time.
It would be nice if people complaining about things knew what was already in game, that has been around for a very long time and reiterated on multiple threads by multiple people
Well if you look at the wiki, the Box (not bag) of wvw supplies does NOT contain any BoH. Nowhere in the wiki does it show that BoH are obtainable in any way except through wvw activities or containers obtainable only through wvw activities. So either you're saying that the wiki is dead wrong, or you are.
Edit: Just opened a Box of WvW Supplies. Zero Badges of Honor given.
Re-read what I wrote, you will see the Answer, again I never said BoHs were in the Box, again no WvW participation is necessary to get a GoB just pure PvE.
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