Hello guys. I am not sure if I am breaking any rules now but I feel that even if I am it needs to be done. Quite recently one user on this formu posted quite long and detailed thread about raid toxicity and what to do to get to raids. Then this thread dissapeared. After a while I relised that that person is on the same discord with me and told us that it was shut down by a moderator. Today he showed us the reasoning that was send to him by the moderator why he did get a warning and his thread was shut down and I was very ofended by it. And that is why I decided to write this post.
In summary author said that raid is not toxic if you pull your weight and to do so you should have meta build, learn fights before you join and whisper the commander if you dont have enough Li.
The moderator said that this thread was reported by multiple members because author expected players too folow nonexistant rules and if they dont they will be subjected to toxic behavior and that this means that raiders dont welcome indipendent thinkers.
Lets break it down:
Players that want to clear raids (we are not talking about training raids) want to do it as soon as possible. If they wanted to do it with 9 players they wouldnt look for the 10th one. There are 10 players in squad and not just you. If you want to be carried in raids then you can PAY someone who is selling raids. If you join a squad and expect them to carry you then you are basicaly making them do the same thing but for free.
If i have a squad full with players that want to play meta I DONT HAVE TO ACCEPT player that doesnt. Its the same as if there is a squad full of non meta builds and I join with meta build. The have same right to kick me.
Also the author said a way to get around those "rules". He said that if he is asking for something and you dont have it you can always ask the commander if he/she allows it.
And the last part offended me the most. "Raids do not welcome indipended thinkers". That mean I am not indipendent thinker since am raiding and I never met any toxicity. Raids welcome indipendent thinkers. You will get further if you can adapt to your team composition and bosses. Raids do not welcome thinkers similar to those that belive that earth is flat. The fact that earth isnt flat was proven by many people yet someone can still argue that it is not true. I dont want to deal with a "thinker" that have more toughness with dps firebrand then minstrel chrono tank (that happend to me). Am I toxic if I, as a commander, kick this player (after asking him if he forgot to change this gear)?
Truth be told if you dont follow those rules stated by the author, it is much more likely that players will be toxic to you. You might feel that raiders are toxic but the way I see it our "toxicity" is there only because you started it. We (at least me) think that you are toxic if you expect us to carry you.
And I welcome new raiders to raids. I am teaching newcomers how to raid quite frequently. That doesnt meant that if I want fast clear with experianced players I will take someone who is not experianced just because he want to raid.
I am sorry if you think i am toxic now. I had to rewrite this post many times to turn down my rage. But I will not stand by when I am beeing insulted by others without fighting back.