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[Bug] Can't get to Font of Rhand (Trying to make Mawdrey in 2018)

Xenon.4537Xenon.4537 Member ✭✭✭
edited September 12, 2018 in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Update: A helpful good soul ported me in! Hope Anet fixes the event though.
More clear update: I have completed Mawdrey. Someone already ported me in. The event was still bugged days after I made this thread, however. Thank you SO MUCH to all the mesmers who have whispered me, but I no longer need help! Also Thank you Jeffrey Vaughn for replying and looking into the bugged event!

I'm currently stuck on this because I physically can't get into Font of Rhand for the water... The meta event to access the mini-dungeon seems to be bugged. Flame Legion Battles is just stuck on "Rankar Harrownight is uniting his warband for a counter assault on the Flame Legion." The events listed on the wiki never show up. There's no way to progress.

I'm worried that I'll never be able to complete Mawdrey because there are so many items needed that are locked behind very old very specific events that might be bugged and I'm not sure Anet is even trying to fix these old events. There's barely anyone playing these areas of the game anymore. Is this a lost cause? Is there any way of breaking into the mini-dungeon using a mount or something? Does someone happen to have a mesmer parked in there (NA) that could portal me in?

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  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018

    I can check later today and see if I can get in. I’ll just leave my mesmer there.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Plenty of mesmers do park there. If you state na or eu itll be easier to find one on here

  • Xenon.4537Xenon.4537 Member ✭✭✭

    Yeah its for NA. I've been asking around and trying to find a way inside for a couple hours now, no luck...

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Looks like the OP was able to get ported in. I found a way in too so I can port those to the start of the mini dungeon where the portal would usually take you.

  • Yup... confirming this for the EU... Event stuck. Now what?

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @borek.7193 said:
    Yup... confirming this for the EU... Event stuck. Now what?

    1) Report it using the in-game bug report tool if you haven't already so Anet know it's happening.
    2) Ask in map chat and LFG if anyone has a mesmer inside who can portal you in, or is on a map where the entrance is open.
    3) If not wait until the next update (which resets all maps) and try as soon as possible after the update goes live.

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    And you run till night is black, And keep on going in your dreams,
    And you know all the long while, It's the journey that you seek,
    It's the miles of moving forward, With the wind beneath your wings."

  • As of September 11, 2018 the event is STILL bugged on "Rankar Harrownight is uniting his warband for a counter assault on the Flame Legion." No offense Anet, but I REALLY don't want to have to come back to this map every hour of every day asking for someone to port me inside so I can finish Mawdrey. Please either fix the issue or open the Font of Rhand so it no longer prevents all the players who are working on the ascended backpiece or legendary weapons.

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  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 11, 2018

    @Ronin.4501 said:
    As of September 11, 2018 the event is STILL bugged on "Rankar Harrownight is uniting his warband for a counter assault on the Flame Legion." No offense Anet, but I REALLY don't want to have to come back to this map every hour of every day asking for someone to port me inside so I can finish Mawdrey. Please either fix the issue or open the Font of Rhand so it no longer prevents all the players who are working on the ascended backpiece or legendary weapons.

    If you’re NA, I can port you in later tonight since I haven’t touched my mesmer since I left it there. Basically the only way to get there is hope you land on an instance where it’s not bugged or break out of the map.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Xenon.4537 said:
    I'm currently stuck on this because I physically can't get into Font of Rhand for the water...

    Yes, it's a mini dungeon you can only do with someone else. But it is easy peasy: either ask a guild mate, in map chat, LFG, or on a forum. ;)

    "What good is battle prowess when you are too dead to make use of it?" - Draco Ud Verik (Human Ranger) | Guild: Order of the Ebon [Hand]
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  • @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Ronin.4501 said:
    As of September 11, 2018 the event is STILL bugged on "Rankar Harrownight is uniting his warband for a counter assault on the Flame Legion." No offense Anet, but I REALLY don't want to have to come back to this map every hour of every day asking for someone to port me inside so I can finish Mawdrey. Please either fix the issue or open the Font of Rhand so it no longer prevents all the players who are working on the ascended backpiece or legendary weapons.

    If you’re NA, I can port you in later tonight since I haven’t touched my mesmer since I left it there. Basically the only way to get there is hope you land on an instance where it’s not bugged or break out of the map.

    Thank you very much for the offer Ayrilana!! Fortunately someone else who had a toon parked inside allowed me to use a Teleport to Friend so I was able to access the Clean Water and finish Mawdrey. But there were several others waiting around for the instance as well, so they may still need assistance getting inside.

    Ronin V/Skhaar/Vicious Blacktongue/etc.
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  • @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Xenon.4537 said:
    I'm currently stuck on this because I physically can't get into Font of Rhand for the water...

    Yes, it's a mini dungeon you can only do with someone else. But it is easy peasy: either ask a guild mate, in map chat, LFG, or on a forum. ;)

    I think you misunderstood Ashantara. It's not that the mini-dungeon is difficult. The meta event chain that allows access to the Font of Rhand has been bugged for weeks, thus not allowing anyone to get inside (unless they've previously parked a toon there several weeks ago), and unfortunately access to the Font of Rhand is necessary for completion of several legendary items as well as the ascended backpiece Mawdrey.

    Ronin V/Skhaar/Vicious Blacktongue/etc.
    Questionable Integrity [Sin]
    Stormbluff Isle
    Platinum Colonel

  • One more thought; Is there a way to move this thread over to the "Bugs: Game, Forum, Website" section instead? I suspect there are a number of people encountering this issue and probably looking in that section for possible solutions.

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  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ronin.4501 said:
    I think you misunderstood Ashantara. It's not that the mini-dungeon is difficult. The meta event chain that allows access to the Font of Rhand has been bugged for weeks

    Whoooot? :o I shouldn't be surprised, though. ;)

    "What good is battle prowess when you are too dead to make use of it?" - Draco Ud Verik (Human Ranger) | Guild: Order of the Ebon [Hand]
    . My GW2 content charts: (1) LWS 4, (2) PoF , (3) Personal story (pre-Claw Island/Orr) , (4) LWS 2 , (5) HoT, (6) Orr campaign , (7) LWS 3

  • Klipso.8653Klipso.8653 Member ✭✭✭

    I feel like part of this quest should have involved killing a dentist and using them as plant food

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  • edited September 12, 2018

    @Ronin.4501 said:

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Xenon.4537 said:
    I'm currently stuck on this because I physically can't get into Font of Rhand for the water...

    Yes, it's a mini dungeon you can only do with someone else. But it is easy peasy: either ask a guild mate, in map chat, LFG, or on a forum. ;)

    I think you misunderstood Ashantara. It's not that the mini-dungeon is difficult. The meta event chain that allows access to the Font of Rhand has been bugged for weeks, thus not allowing anyone to get inside (unless they've previously parked a toon there several weeks ago), and unfortunately access to the Font of Rhand is necessary for completion of several legendary items as well as the ascended backpiece Mawdrey.

    Thanks for giving me a synopsis that I could send to the team. That sounds as if it's definitely worth looking into!

    @Klipso.8653 said:
    I feel like part of this quest should have involved killing a dentist and using them as plant food

    Gotta love cultural references. ;)

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  • @Klipso.8653 said:
    I feel like part of this quest should have involved killing a dentist and using them as plant food

    Anytime I feed Mawdrey II, I mutter "Feed me, Seymour" to myself.

    Oh look. I have a signature now.

  • Here are a few thoughts from Jeffrey, who has been looking into this issue:

    • One of the more recent threads mentions it being on "NPC is assembling his warband" ... That means that one or more of the pre-events is running and needs to be completed. They're not all visible from the spot where the NPC is standing, though they're very close. (There's a collection event, an intimidate event, and one that just takes time as an NPC repairs the damage done during the starting event)
    • The events aren't visible from where the NPC is, so it's possible that one event is running but the player hasn't gotten close enough to it to see it
    • And one isn't an "event", it's the NPC running around and repairing the camp. (Since there's no event, it just takes 2-10 minutes depending on how badly the camp was damaged during the previous event)

    So a question for those having issues with this, if this seems the likely issue: Which named NPCs are standing by Rankar Harrownight?

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  • There's also an escort event (guarding an NPC while he collects devourer eggs). If I know which NPCs aren't waiting by Harrownight, it tells me which pre-events haven't completed.

    Content Designer

  • @Jeffrey Vaughn.1793 said:
    There's also an escort event (guarding an NPC while he collects devourer eggs). If I know which NPCs aren't waiting by Harrownight, it tells me which pre-events haven't completed.

    That's very helpful.

    I suspect it would be useful if the umbrella event description that appears in the upper right of the UI could be updated to show what needs to be completed to progress the events. (Also help with Champion Frainn and others, who are also alleged to be MIA under similar situations, i.e. the 'meta' is waiting for an event to finish that is hard to see from far away.)

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  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2018

    Just went over to Diessa Plateau and found the this chain in the broken state.

    The other members are gathered but Savor Foulnight is still left. It looks like https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Recover_the_scattered_pieces_of_scrap_metal_for_Savor_Foulnight did not start after https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defend_Bloodsaw_Mill_from_the_Flame_Legion

    Savor Foulnight also seems to be completely invulnerable or uninteractable with creatures. Dragged a warthog on top of him. None of the warthog's attacks even interacted with him like he is not a valid target.

    Other ways I've seen this chain breaking is during https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Help_the_Night_warband_reach_Incendio_Templum the NPCs are stalled on the road.

    During https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defend_Bloodsaw_Mill_from_the_Flame_Legion the flame legion enemies you are supposed to kill are missing.

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Jeffrey Vaughn.1793 said:
    There's also an escort event (guarding an NPC while he collects devourer eggs). If I know which NPCs aren't waiting by Harrownight, it tells me which pre-events haven't completed.

    That's very helpful.

    I suspect it would be useful if the umbrella event description that appears in the upper right of the UI could be updated to show what needs to be completed to progress the events. (Also help with Champion Frainn and others, who are also alleged to be MIA under similar situations, i.e. the 'meta' is waiting for an event to finish that is hard to see from far away.)

    In this case you can also talk to Rankar who tells you which member is missing and the direction to go find them.

  • Where is Savor Foulnight standing? Is he in the spot where he collects items for the event, and the event isn't running? Note that the collection event only runs if the Boodsaw Mill was damaged when it was under attack. If nothing in Bloodsaw Mill was destroyed during the attack, he should go to Harrownight right after the defend event ends.

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  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2018

    @Jeffrey Vaughn.1793 said:
    Where is Savor Foulnight standing? Is he in the spot where he collects items for the event, and the event isn't running? Note that the collection event only runs if the Boodsaw Mill was damaged when it was under attack. If nothing in Bloodsaw Mill was destroyed during the attack, he should go to Harrownight right after the defend event ends.

    Foulnight is standing west of the WP on the other side of the mill. Ghostnight, Razenight, and Harrownight are standing NE of the WP.

    https://image.ibb.co/dc8xFU/gw005.jpg

    Map IP 35.169.41.80

    Bartol Jagsaw in the mill says that the machines are damaged and they're waiting on Foulnight.

  • Vayne.8563Vayne.8563 Member ✭✭✭✭

    As a side note, if you're on this collection and you need a port or have a teleport to a friend, I'm keeping a character parked in the Font of Rhand minidungeon for the duration. Contact me in game I can port you in.

  • Xenon.4537Xenon.4537 Member ✭✭✭

    When I was still working on Mawdrey I looked up every individual event page on the wiki and I physically went to every location marked on the maps and mentioned in text. At the time, none of the events were active and there did not seem to be any NPCs with the typical orange "there's an event here you can start if you talk to me" icon over their head. The meta event message in the top right of the screen was just suck on "Rankar Harrownight is uniting his warband for a counter assault on the Flame Legion." I ran around the map for a good 2 hours checking to see if anything changed, but it stayed that way. I gave up and tried checking back every hour or so to see if the gate had opened. Eventually a kind mesmer portalled me in during this time.

  • @Khisanth.2948 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    I suspect it would be useful if the umbrella event description that appears in the upper right of the UI could be updated to show what needs to be completed to progress the events. (Also help with Champion Frainn and others, who are also alleged to be MIA under similar situations, i.e. the 'meta' is waiting for an event to finish that is hard to see from far away.)

    In this case you can also talk to Rankar who tells you which member is missing and the direction to go find them.

    That only helps if you know to visit Rankar in the first place, which isn't mentioned in the meta event's description that appears in the game's UI. That is, if you know how the event works, you can pretty much make sure it's working, but if you don't know, then it looks bugged.

    Importantly, I don't think it's generally true of the other meta events that people believe keep getting stalled. Ogre Wars still doesn't have a clear indicator of where events should be occurring next (it often has the ones that are in progress though, to its credit). Orrian temples, Bauxite Alchemicals, Frainn, are among the other multi-part or multi-pronged events that can appear to be stalled when they aren't, i.e. as @Jeffrey Vaughn.1793 says, there's just a part of it that hasn't been finished.

    I don't mean to undermine the advice — it is really useful for that event. I am hoping that ANet recognizes that there's a perception problem that causes enough frustration that some people lose faith. I believe that could be addressed by updating the UI descriptions to convey more specific status details, or even just identify which NPC has that information.

    tl;dr multi-part/multi-tiered events appear to bug out to some people, even when they are working fine. Updating the in-game umbrella event statuses could help a lot of people get past that illusory roadblock.

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  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Khisanth.2948 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    I suspect it would be useful if the umbrella event description that appears in the upper right of the UI could be updated to show what needs to be completed to progress the events. (Also help with Champion Frainn and others, who are also alleged to be MIA under similar situations, i.e. the 'meta' is waiting for an event to finish that is hard to see from far away.)

    In this case you can also talk to Rankar who tells you which member is missing and the direction to go find them.

    That only helps if you know to visit Rankar in the first place, which isn't mentioned in the meta event's description that appears in the game's UI. That is, if you know how the event works, you can pretty much make sure it's working, but if you don't know, then it looks bugged.

    Importantly, I don't think it's generally true of the other meta events that people believe keep getting stalled. Ogre Wars still doesn't have a clear indicator of where events should be occurring next (it often has the ones that are in progress though, to its credit). Orrian temples, Bauxite Alchemicals, Frainn, are among the other multi-part or multi-pronged events that can appear to be stalled when they aren't, i.e. as @Jeffrey Vaughn.1793 says, there's just a part of it that hasn't been finished.

    I don't mean to undermine the advice — it is really useful for that event. I am hoping that ANet recognizes that there's a perception problem that causes enough frustration that some people lose faith. I believe that could be addressed by updating the UI descriptions to convey more specific status details, or even just identify which NPC has that information.

    tl;dr multi-part/multi-tiered events appear to bug out to some people, even when they are working fine. Updating the in-game umbrella event statuses could help a lot of people get past that illusory roadblock.

    Except in this case it is in fact broken because Savor Foulnight isn't actually doing what he is supposed to. Neither starting the collection event nor going to the warband gathering point. He as chosen to take the road less traveled(or more traveled at this point ...) of sitting on his butt all day.

    The other two cases are also very obviously broken when the NPCs are stalled on the road and when flame legion waves that need to be defeated are nowhere to be found.

  • I'll have to take a deeper look at Foulnight. I fixed a stall in the assault on Incendio Templum, but in many playthroughs I never ran into any issues with the transition from defending Bloodsaw Mill to the assault.

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  • ShadowDove.8329ShadowDove.8329 Member ✭✭
    edited September 14, 2018

    I can confirm that Foulnight is still stalled, at least on EU. He is in the same position other people mentioned, but interactung with him gives no option to start the event. Speaking with Harrownight tells you where Foulnight is, but no 'Event nearby' icon appears.

    Edit: I find it very odd that the event has stalled, because last week I completed the event with another character. I forgot that I needed the water then, which is why I need to get back in...

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  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ShadowDove.8329 said:
    I can confirm that Foulnight is still stalled, at least on EU. He is in the same position other people mentioned, but interactung with him gives no option to start the event. Speaking with Harrownight tells you where Foulnight is, but no 'Event nearby' icon appears.

    Edit: I find it very odd that the event has stalled, because last week I completed the event with another character. I forgot that I needed the water then, which is why I need to get back in...

    That isn't very odd.

    For example(just one of the possibilities) at the completion of the one you did the code didn't clean up correctly so that when it comes around again it the code might things the previous event was still active.

  • @Khisanth.2948 said:
    That isn't very odd.

    For example(just one of the possibilities) at the completion of the one you did the code didn't clean up correctly so that when it comes around again it the code might things the previous event was still active.

    Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up :) Hopefully they clean it up soon so the stalled ones can progress

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  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ShadowDove.8329 said:

    @Khisanth.2948 said:
    That isn't very odd.

    For example(just one of the possibilities) at the completion of the one you did the code didn't clean up correctly so that when it comes around again it the code might things the previous event was still active.

    Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up :) Hopefully they clean it up soon so the stalled ones can progress

    Just an example of what could go wrong in code. No idea how close to reality it might be.

  • JasonLucas.4981JasonLucas.4981 Member ✭✭
    edited September 14, 2018

    We really need a system to deal with these issues, that's the second collection I get stuck because of a broken event.
    Edit: I managed to break out of the map and get the item necessary for my collection. Sad that this was reported last month and yet nothing has been done.

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