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A Note about Future Raid Rewards

Hey folks,

Just wanted to give you all a heads up about a change that is coming to future raids. With the next raid wing, we will be introducing a new type of Legendary Trophy: Legendary Divinations. These will replace Legendary Insights in the new raid wing, as well as in the Hall of Chains instance.

In addition, we will be offering all players the opportunity to exchange up to 168 Legendary Insights for Legendary Divinations if you’ve killed at least one boss in the Hall of Chains raid wing. This adds up to 4 Legendary Divinations per week for the 42 weeks that Hall of Chains has been available, and serves as a means through which you can catch up to the maximum possible available Legendary Trophies that would have been available had we shipped with Legendary Divinations back in November 2017.

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  • segman.3560segman.3560 Member ✭✭✭

    yay more KPs to store in bank

  • Draco.9480Draco.9480 Member ✭✭✭

    finally i can get rid of Li.

  • Any juicy hints on what these new trophies are for?

  • DarkEagle.7381DarkEagle.7381 Member ✭✭
    edited September 12, 2018

    I spend all my LI on legendary armor crafting so I have very little in my bank at any given time. Is there a limited time to do this exchange or will I be able to exchange the 168 later down the road should I so choose?

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2018

    Thanks for the chance to upgrade even if you havent killed all the bosses every week in wing 5.
    How long will you be able to upgrade it?

  • As I understood it, you basically want newer players to have a bit less of an issue with KP when joining for PoF raids? I just hope it won't timegate or have any negative impact on our ability to craft the rign on the release.

  • Can we expect new items for these new trophies? I do hope there are more sinks for these mats since once one has got like 3 Leg Armor sets LIs are usually useless.

  • @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Any juicy hints on what these new trophies are for?

    I imagine for the new ring

  • Sounds interesting. Wonder for what we gonna be able to use this new currency.

    Just a question to clarify something:
    Let's assume I never did a boss of Wing 5 at all, but once a friend offered me to join in and get the River event in Wing 5 while they were basically already close to done and I just waited dead at the entrance and grabed my loot after - which obviously is not a problem and legit.
    Will I be able to exchange the same maximum amount of Legendary Insights into Legendary Divinations as someone who killed all Wing 5 bosses every week?
    I guess, you can see where I am going with that.

  • @Linken.6345 said:
    Thanks for the chance to upgrade even if you havent killed all the bosses every week in wing 5.
    How long will you be able to upgrade it?

    This is not a limited time exchange. It will exist until you decide to utilize the exchange 168 times.

    Bee before dog.

  • @Valandor.9506 said:
    Sounds interesting. Wonder for what we gonna be able to use this new currency.

    Just a question to clarify something:
    Let's assume I never did a boss of Wing 5 at all, but once a friend offered me to join in and get the River event in Wing 5 while they were basically already close to done and I just waited dead at the entrance and grabed my loot after - which obviously is not a problem and legit.
    Will I be able to exchange the same maximum amount of Legendary Insights into Legendary Divinations as someone who killed all Wing 5 bosses every week?
    I guess, you can see where I am going with that.

    Yes. Everyone who has participated will have the option to exchange up to 168 times.

    Bee before dog.

  • Kitty.6219Kitty.6219 Member ✭✭✭

    how would crafting legendary armor work then? I'm like 9 insight shy for my first armor set >.>

  • edited September 12, 2018

    @Kitty.6219 said:
    how would crafting legendary armor work then? I'm like 9 insight shy for my first armor set >.>

    You don't immediately have to participate in the exchange. If you're working on your armor right now, you could choose to complete it and then exchange any further insights you acquire at your leisure, provided you've made measurable progress against any one of the encounters in Hall of Chains.

    Bee before dog.

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Seems like a pointless change if you can exchange 168 LI for LD unless new rewards require vastly more than 168 LD

    First person to reach 35,000 and 36,000 AP.
    killproof.me/proof/kEyr

  • Mireles Lore.5942Mireles Lore.5942 Member ✭✭
    edited September 12, 2018

    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?

  • Raizel.8175Raizel.8175 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Another additional (and stupid) layer to the LI/KP-system to split the playerbase even further...

    Upon release of W6: "W6 - 500 LI + 150 LD - [...]".

  • Lonami.2987Lonami.2987 Member ✭✭✭

    Won't this make wings 1 to 4 irrelevant? Why not make some sort of Legendary Insight sink instead?

  • @Byron Miller.4629 said:
    provided you've made measurable progress against any one of the encounters in Hall of Chains.

    Your initial post said "kill" but here you say "measurable progress". What is the threshold for "measurable progress"?

  • Feanor.2358Feanor.2358 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lonami.2987 said:
    Won't this make wings 1 to 4 irrelevant? Why not make some sort of Legendary Insight sink instead?

    The sink for LIs remains the same - legendary insignias -> precursor armor pieces -> legendary pieces. Either use it as cheap ascended crafting or for more armor sets.

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2018

    @GalenWolffit.3842 said:

    @Byron Miller.4629 said:
    provided you've made measurable progress against any one of the encounters in Hall of Chains.

    Your initial post said "kill" but here you say "measurable progress". What is the threshold for "measurable progress"?

    measureable progress = any w5 achievement is my guess
    which coincidentally all require you to kill something in w5

    First person to reach 35,000 and 36,000 AP.
    killproof.me/proof/kEyr

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This does look like it should've been from the start. Legendary Armor being the reward from Heart of Thorns raids, not Path of Fire, or future, Raids.

  • segman.3560segman.3560 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lonami.2987 said:
    Won't this make wings 1 to 4 irrelevant? Why not make some sort of Legendary Insight sink instead?

    DOn't worry, there won't be enough PoF raids anytime soon to cover whole week for raiders to make them choose between old and new ones.

  • What is someone already have all 3 sets of legendary armor and still a lot of insights left. Do you plan to add some some other recipes/sinks that will use Legendary Insights?

  • Lonami.2987Lonami.2987 Member ✭✭✭

    @Feanor.2358 said:

    @Lonami.2987 said:
    Won't this make wings 1 to 4 irrelevant? Why not make some sort of Legendary Insight sink instead?

    The sink for LIs remains the same - legendary insignias -> precursor armor pieces -> legendary pieces. Either use it as cheap ascended crafting or for more armor sets.

    Let me elaborate:

    • Veterans only raid 1-4 because LIs were useful for the legendary ring. There's nothing left for you in 1-4 if you already got all the skins and minis.
    • If you're a veteran, you're drowning in ascended weapon and armor chests, so you don't need to buy any ascended equipment. Also, you have the legendary armor anyway.
    • A possible sink could be converting LIs into magnetite, and then let people buy expensive titles and buffs using magnetite, much like Fractal God.
  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @GalenWolffit.3842 said:

    @Byron Miller.4629 said:
    provided you've made measurable progress against any one of the encounters in Hall of Chains.

    Your initial post said "kill" but here you say "measurable progress". What is the threshold for "measurable progress"?

    if you havent killed or finish an event like river for example no progress is done and there for cant be messured.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?

    from the wording in the OP I would think you should do it before patch drop mate.

  • @Lonami.2987 said:

    @Feanor.2358 said:

    @Lonami.2987 said:
    Won't this make wings 1 to 4 irrelevant? Why not make some sort of Legendary Insight sink instead?

    The sink for LIs remains the same - legendary insignias -> precursor armor pieces -> legendary pieces. Either use it as cheap ascended crafting or for more armor sets.

    Let me elaborate:

    • Veterans only raid 1-4 because LIs were useful for the legendary ring. There's nothing left for you in 1-4 if you already got all the skins and minis.
    • If you're a veteran, you're drowning in ascended weapon and armor chests, so you don't need to buy any ascended equipment. Also, you have the legendary armor anyway.
    • A possible sink could be converting LIs into magnetite, and then let people buy expensive titles and buffs using magnetite, much like Fractal God.

    woah, easy on the generalisations there.
    Alot of veterans (like myself at 1690 LI) couldnt care less about the LI or skins at this point. I raid cause it's fun and pretty much the only challenging content the game offers, but also for a pretty decent amount of gold for the time required. I don't think this change will have any impact at all on W1-4, apart from maybe the encounters people avoid already.

  • Feanor.2358Feanor.2358 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lonami.2987 said:

    @Feanor.2358 said:

    @Lonami.2987 said:
    Won't this make wings 1 to 4 irrelevant? Why not make some sort of Legendary Insight sink instead?

    The sink for LIs remains the same - legendary insignias -> precursor armor pieces -> legendary pieces. Either use it as cheap ascended crafting or for more armor sets.

    Let me elaborate:

    • Veterans only raid 1-4 because LIs were useful for the legendary ring. There's nothing left for you in 1-4 if you already got all the skins and minis.
    • If you're a veteran, you're drowning in ascended weapon and armor chests, so you don't need to buy any ascended equipment. Also, you have the legendary armor anyway.
    • A possible sink could be converting LIs into magnetite, and then let people buy expensive titles and buffs using magnetite, much like Fractal God.

    Or just let W1-4 be the starter wings for non-veterans. The introduction of new wings would stretch the time needed to full clear indefinitely otherwise and ANet would need to introduce something to encourage players to drop some wings on a weekly basis anyway.

  • @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?

    Participation is not limited. You can earn access to the exchange after the patch as well.

    Bee before dog.

  • I just spent 100 LI on precursor armor components to free up bank space two days ago, would support be able to undo that if I really need the Divinations?

  • Lonami.2987Lonami.2987 Member ✭✭✭

    @Chris McSwag.4683 said:

    @Lonami.2987 said:

    @Feanor.2358 said:

    @Lonami.2987 said:
    Won't this make wings 1 to 4 irrelevant? Why not make some sort of Legendary Insight sink instead?

    The sink for LIs remains the same - legendary insignias -> precursor armor pieces -> legendary pieces. Either use it as cheap ascended crafting or for more armor sets.

    Let me elaborate:

    • Veterans only raid 1-4 because LIs were useful for the legendary ring. There's nothing left for you in 1-4 if you already got all the skins and minis.
    • If you're a veteran, you're drowning in ascended weapon and armor chests, so you don't need to buy any ascended equipment. Also, you have the legendary armor anyway.
    • A possible sink could be converting LIs into magnetite, and then let people buy expensive titles and buffs using magnetite, much like Fractal God.

    woah, easy on the generalisations there.
    Alot of veterans (like myself at 1690 LI) couldnt care less about the LI or skins at this point. I raid cause it's fun and pretty much the only challenging content the game offers, but also for a pretty decent amount of gold for the time required. I don't think this change will have any impact at all on W1-4, apart from maybe the encounters people avoid already.

    I don't think you are a "lot" of veterans. Most of the raiders I know stopped raiding months ago, and have moved on to fractals or sPvP.

  • josebaabasolo.5680josebaabasolo.5680 Member
    edited September 12, 2018

    What is the answer on this topic Byron? https://reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/9fa0i8/psa_if_you_want_to_maximize_your_legendary/
    Are the rewards from Hall of chais getting updated with the weekly reset or after patch? Will we have to delay the wing clear to not be missing on the timegate?

  • Karaha.3290Karaha.3290 Member ✭✭✭

    @Raizel.8175 said:
    Another additional (and stupid) layer to the LI/KP-system to split the playerbase even further...

    Upon release of W6: "W6 - 500 LI + 150 LD - [...]".

    Splitting LI/LD between HoT and PoF raids isn't wrong.
    Since W6 will be very new, it's not the case yet, but later -> why should you ask for X LI, if you run Wing 5/6? Why should you ask for LD if you run Wing 2?
    Nobody ask for a Deimos Kp if he runs Sabetha, it's the same thing.

    @Lonami.2987 said:

    @Feanor.2358 said:

    @Lonami.2987 said:
    Won't this make wings 1 to 4 irrelevant? Why not make some sort of Legendary Insight sink instead?

    The sink for LIs remains the same - legendary insignias -> precursor armor pieces -> legendary pieces. Either use it as cheap ascended crafting or for more armor sets.

    Let me elaborate:

    • Veterans only raid 1-4 because LIs were useful for the legendary ring. There's nothing left for you in 1-4 if you already got all the skins and minis.
    • If you're a veteran, you're drowning in ascended weapon and armor chests, so you don't need to buy any ascended equipment. Also, you have the legendary armor anyway.
    • A possible sink could be converting LIs into magnetite, and then let people buy expensive titles and buffs using magnetite, much like Fractal God.

    I unlocked all legendary armor skins and still doing Wing 1-4, so you are just not right on this point. In general you get up to 60g + much other stuff weekly via fullclear and also can salvage your ascended drops to get magentite shards -> ghostly infusions -> gold. Ascended accessoires is a thing too, especialy if you need pof stats, you can buy them with magnetite shards.
    All in all there are enough reasons to do Wing 1-4 even if you unlocked all armor skins.
    One of my reasons is just that 3 of my 6 chars still don't have a legendary armor yet.

  • A question, I hope we can get an answer to that. How many LD are needed for the ring? Should we wait with our w5 clears 'till tuesday or we'll be able to get the ring regardless if we exchange the maximum amount of LD?

  • Are W5 kills from monday before patch included in the 168 count, or is it better to delay clearing w5 to maximize currency?

  • ReaverKane.7598ReaverKane.7598 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yay, exactly what i wanted for Christmas, more inventory bloat!

  • Raizel.8175Raizel.8175 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Karaha.3290 said:

    @Raizel.8175 said:
    Another additional (and stupid) layer to the LI/KP-system to split the playerbase even further...

    Upon release of W6: "W6 - 500 LI + 150 LD - [...]".

    Splitting LI/LD between HoT and PoF raids isn't wrong.
    Since W6 will be very new, it's not the case yet, but later -> why should you ask for X LI, if you run Wing 5/6? Why should you ask for LD if you run Wing 2?
    Nobody ask for a Deimos Kp if he runs Sabetha, it's the same thing.

    It's still a problem for the game in general. Raids are already extremely niche and the community of this game is already very fractured to the point where you could argue that there isn't a coherent community in the first place. The small niche which is the raiding-"community" suffers from the same problems of being extremely fractured. W1 to 4 are somewhat acceptable, but it's almost impossible for a new player to ever be able to finish Dhuum in the near future. You even have problems doing statues as new player. The same will most likely happen with W6 - except it will be even harder for new people due to the added layer of LD. While it might be reasonable to create another currency for PoF-raids, it certainly isn't healthy for the game - the whole KP-system isn't for a game as unsocial as GW2.

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Seems like a pointless change if you can exchange 168 LI for LD unless new rewards require vastly more than 168 LD

    They probably have something planned but don't want people who don't do PoF raids to have instant access to it just because they did raid a lot in HoT is my best guess.

    That's just how it be sometimes.
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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Seems like a pointless change if you can exchange 168 LI for LD unless new rewards require vastly more than 168 LD

    They probably have something planned but don't want people who don't do PoF raids to have instant access to it just because they did raid a lot in HoT is my best guess.

    ok so why would they let us convert at all then seems silly dont it?

  • Susy.7529Susy.7529 Member ✭✭✭

    Will this patch introduce the final step to upgrade Coalescence into the new legendary ring?

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