Diamond Legend.
The final rank in WvW.
The pinnacle of WvW.
The amount of time, effort and dedication needed to reach that level is enormous.
Would be nice if these players could be recognized with a special title or account-bound infusion or armor/weapon/backpack skin.
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Though I would immensely love titles or badges for every rank from Bronze to Diamond - it isn't a well liked idea judging by similar suggestions in the past.
Since EOTM used to grant copious amounts of WXP, there are a lot of players who are max rank or very high rank thanks to spending every waking hour farming said map. Unfortunately, this makes the prestige of higher ranks irrelevant in the vast majority of players. Many who are max rank spent time there. Though it was never an "exploit", it still makes these ranks much less impressive as a result. That said, not everyone who has a high rank grinded the ever living hell out of the map or spent all their time there. Some players just love WvW very dearly and don't do much else.
I don't think infusions, armor or otherwise are a good idea simply because it takes so long to reach Mithril and onward. It doesn't matter if you play every day or not, the higher ranks were simply not intended to be reached without years of gameplay. Therefore, material rewards would be too exclusive to those who have the time to play for hours and hours a day. Those who have lives and responsibilities would simply never be able to attain these rewards and that seems a little unfair to me.
I've been in support of the idea of titles or badges since it was first suggested (how ever long ago that was) and achievements don't need to be a part of it. It would just be nice to be able to display these things outside of WvW as some of us are proud of our dedication, how ever pointless it may be. I know I'm not the only one who would enjoy this, but I also know there are likely many more who are against it. Sucks a little but, I understand their gripe.
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Whilst its not an awful idea, as it was stated, thanks to EotM farmnig, it makes the rank less impressive than it should be. No different than PvP rank with wintraders being on the leaderboard....yes its on the leaderboard, however due to "exploits" its far less impressive than it should be.
Not saying that you didnt earn it outside EotM, it's just the idea of the rank being prestige has been shattered thanks to EotM.
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Maybe give special reward for EotM players. I am prod my time in EotM and i wanna everybody to see it.
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Been playing WvW regularly for a year and a half and still only rank 1200. That must've been quite the XP boost back in the day, because at the rate I acquire ranks it'll take me 9 years to hit 10k.
They get an extra skirmish pip and they do have a title, Diamond Legend.
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So i have played since launch and only have rank 5,626. Rank boost help a lot. I never use those. Some people use those whole time.
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Just curious but how many ranks could you earn per hour, back in the day, using the old EotM method?
Depend on how alive was the map and if there were people trying to derail the train...
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I honestly don't recall the exact amount. Maybe like 15 - 20 an hour? Most people who did it would stack as many XP boosters as possible though.
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Something special? Two blues and a green good enough?
best reward is that your corpse will be encased in diamond casket which everyone can see whenever you're killed in wvw, until you teleport.
I don't oppose this idea; however, many Diamond legends achieved their rank through EoTM K-training. Do we really want to reward people for doing that?
Maybe give someone the special reward instead who've reached diamond rank, but also completed all the achievements in the WvW list including Ultimate Dominator.
" many Diamond legends achieved their rank through EoTM K-training"
whats wrong with that? wvw is nothing more than a pvd game, the more u pvd the more u gain ppt and win the matchup. Its all about bragging right at the end for everyone anyway.
As someone who will never, ever get anywhere close to that rank, I agree. A reward of some sort is totally fair in my eyes. It is undeniably a lot of time dedicated to WvW, it wouldn't hurt to have something you can show it off with beyond the nameplate. I dunno how getting that rank is even possible lol. I must be doing everything wrong to level mine up.
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Less impressive? How often do you run in to rank 10 k players?
I ran EOTM for a few hours a day (maybe 2-4?) for about a month when one of my guilds died and found I could really push myself to get 100 ranks a week or about 10 per day. That means you'd basically get roughly 3 an hour. That all depended on how good your zerg was, how confident your commander was, boosters, etc. Efficiency basically.
As for OP. I'm not sure how you reward them without it being something stackable like gold or badges of honor. Anything that promotes blobbing or karma training shouldn't be added to the game. If people are just going to karma train to get to 10k so they earn 1g per rank up or something, it won't be healthy for WvW.
Only if Anet can prove that you got that rank by playing WvW and not by farming EoTM.
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Maybe give Diamond Legend people some extra gold for just showing up and taking stuff if they're still playing after getting 10k rank because god knows they've probably played a lot to get there except for the EOTM ones but whatever let them have some extra gold too, be generous for god's sake.
Maybe do that per hours played in that case because the rank system has always been heavily tilted towards certain classes. That's the primary reason as to why the idea is going to be hard to motivate, not because of EotM but because class affects rank at least somewhere 1:5.
GW2 Efficiency ( https://gw2efficiency.com/account/statistics/statistics.wvwRank ) only shows the top 25 but I was listed as #32 when I hit max in February of 2018. There were 31 players ahead of me that were already 10k at that point, so I'm doubtful there are less than 100 of them today. I can think of at least 15 of them off the top of my head that I either know personally or am familiar with as an enemy. So although rare, it's also not as uncommon as some people think. More like getting a regular Exotic weapon/armor drop than getting a Precursor kinda deal.
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The +1 pip is insane tho tbh
I think people underestimate just how powerful +1 pip is.
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Thanks to eotm most player with very high WvW Ranks are PvE Players.
Thanks to Eotm WvW Ranks are worthless.
thx to OS kill farm Ultimate Dominator is worhtless too, everytime I see someone with UD title I just assumed they farmed the title from OS.
Why would it be better to have even more rewards for time-spent rather than skill?
Not like it hurts anyone, but would be better to spend the same effort on making reasonable solo-only challenges that people can try themselves in and get unique rewards for demonstrating some actually worthy quantities (reaction, speed, precision, concentration .... etc aka skill) rather than how much time they spent on entertainment.
I'd really prefer making the dolyak finishers permanent and making points above rank 1200 (or where the wvw talents) end useful. Maybe 200 rank points after 1200 for a commander pin or smt like that.
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I suggest 3 (yes, three) greens and 2 (yes, two) blues per rank up.
Diamond rank gets a boatload of extra pips per tick.
Pvp rank cannot really be bought. The titles and all those prestige are out the window now yes but if we are referring to rank in both game modes then the actualy pvp rank levels have to be individually grinded.
That being said there is also no reward for those of high pvp rank. Not even a label such as diamond, mithril etc. We get to rank 80 (super easy to do) and then thats about it. Im rank 411 in pvp and theres nothing i can do to show it in game. Feels really bad.
Agreed.
I have a a mithril and a new account. It takes a day to pip out on mithril, the rest of the week on the newbie.
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you already have something... people see the diamond rank and automatically you get focused
Hey > @DraGolemz.7694 said:
There is nothing as competitive or as hard to get top 250 titles in the game. The computer does not have challenges that hard.
WvW is a joke with the average Mithril player being about rank 1300 in PvP not even close to top 250.
"Pvp rank cannot really be bought."
Yes it can and plenty of ppl have done that and only few got temp banned. Just b/c u dont think it can be done doesnt mean it cant be done !
They know where you received all your wxp from just make the title specific to real wvw play and not eotm.
No. Dumb zerging do not need more rewards than it already has. Getting +7 Pips is plenty.
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Diamond Legend hmm a reward for skill less zerglings why would that be ?? yeh/nah to more rewards ..
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You unlock the legendary spike reward track, where each reward is legendary spikes and the last box is also just legendary spikes.
Staff 1'ing into a zerg for 5 years is labor intensive dedication now.
Best WVW reward is still " Ultimate Dominator"
No need for ranks to show off. Get that title and everyone knows your not to be messed with
I'll need to hide my skrittlings from all these staff 1 guardians
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In terms of palpable rewards, the +1 pip is a very valuable asset and enough for maxed out rank.