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Bots do +3000 matches per season with total impunity

Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭
edited January 23, 2019 in PVP

So this time I tried to add some of those bots in my friend list and the proportion of what I discovered is just... unbelievable.

Here it is. And it's just 3 of them.
noelshack.com/2018-52-5-1545987270-image4.jpg

https://imgur.com/a/4714Gcs <--- 9 caught at the end of the season.

The stats are for this season only! And it's not finished.

So what we must understand is

  • those bots are just ruining the pvp game experience for so many players, with total impunity
  • imagine how many gold they got and how many gems they can get each season! Make you dream no ?

So for the moment, 1 bot made 3424 matches in 45 days, so more than 76 matches per day.
At the end of this season, it will have like 4256 matches played.
This is for 1 bot and as I said in another tread, there are many of them.
76 matches X (8 minutes match + 5 minutes for queue and preparation) = 988 minutes/day = average 16 hours par day everyday (for 45 days streak, atm)

  • Maybe pointing this can make Anet do their job, because it hits in their wallet
    or...

  • with so many reports, time passing and same bots still here, giving all details about them, no answer at all from Anet...

I hide the account's name for not giving anet an excuse to close this thread.

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  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2018

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:
    Im not a PvP Player but would not just the sheer number of games played this season indicate a Bot?

    I mean... 3k games? I this even humanly possible?

    A game is about 8-10 minutes. You can count that + taking into account the waiting time in the lobby + time spend before games really launch.

    It's why I'm questioning about Anet.
    After watching how these bots are working and giving all the details + reports, I still see them by 2 sometimes at every matches.
    There is something fishy about all of this, really...

  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    These bots are ranked higher than I expected

    As I said, they are not so easy to fight. They just lose in games where they run solo in mid against 3 or 4 ennemies.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Delweyn.1309 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    These bots are ranked higher than I expected

    As I said, they are not so easy to fight. They just lose in games where they run solo in mid against 3 or 4 ennemies.

    DanAlcado makes a decent point then about Mirages

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  • DragonFury.6243DragonFury.6243 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Delweyn.1309 said:
    So this time I tried to add some of those bots in my friend list and the proportion of what I discovered is just... unbelievable.

    Here it is. And it's just 3 of them.
    noelshack.com/2018-52-5-1545987270-image4.jpg

    The stats are for this season only! And it's not finished.

    So what we must understand is

    • those bots are just ruining the pvp game experience for so many players, with total impunity
    • imagine how many gold they got and how many gems they can get each season! Make you dream no ?

    So for the moment, 1 bot made 3424 matches in 45 days, so more than 76 matches per day.
    At the end of this season, it will have like 4256 matches played.
    This is for 1 bot and as I said in another tread, there are many of them.
    76 matches X (8 minutes match + 5 minutes for queue and preparation) = 988 minutes/day = average 16 hours par day everyday (for 45 days streak, atm)

    • Maybe pointing this can make Anet do their job, because it hits in their wallet
      or...

    • with so many reports, time passing and same bots still here, giving all details about them, no answer at all from Anet...
      then I wonder if it's not a deliberate way for Anet to make pvp living. Because of the low population. At certain time (very early in the morning) I meet those bots by 2 at every single match. Without them, I should have to wait for a very long time.

    I hide the account's name for not giving anet an excuse to close this thread.

    the rewards for winning 1643 is
    4732 Gold
    32760 Shard of Glory
    18200 Ascended Shards of Glory
    1092 Unidentified Dye
    and the reward for losing 1781 is 33% of the previous reward of winning 1643 game

    that is fun

  • i see all the bots in this screen are low level (understandable) so from a PvP point of view if you can climb it's not even worth it. As long as i don't have them on my team i don't really care. I'm not playing PvP for the reward.

  • Oh my god ... they make so much $ irl money xD

  • shinta.8906shinta.8906 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2018

    plottwist

    they made by anet to fill the gamemode. thus the amount of players goin at eatchothers throat for behaving like that in matches is the only sane community part left in the game.

  • Ryan.9387Ryan.9387 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2018

    @DragonFury.6243 said:

    @Delweyn.1309 said:
    So this time I tried to add some of those bots in my friend list and the proportion of what I discovered is just... unbelievable.

    Here it is. And it's just 3 of them.
    noelshack.com/2018-52-5-1545987270-image4.jpg

    The stats are for this season only! And it's not finished.

    So what we must understand is

    • those bots are just ruining the pvp game experience for so many players, with total impunity
    • imagine how many gold they got and how many gems they can get each season! Make you dream no ?

    So for the moment, 1 bot made 3424 matches in 45 days, so more than 76 matches per day.
    At the end of this season, it will have like 4256 matches played.
    This is for 1 bot and as I said in another tread, there are many of them.
    76 matches X (8 minutes match + 5 minutes for queue and preparation) = 988 minutes/day = average 16 hours par day everyday (for 45 days streak, atm)

    • Maybe pointing this can make Anet do their job, because it hits in their wallet
      or...

    • with so many reports, time passing and same bots still here, giving all details about them, no answer at all from Anet...
      then I wonder if it's not a deliberate way for Anet to make pvp living. Because of the low population. At certain time (very early in the morning) I meet those bots by 2 at every single match. Without them, I should have to wait for a very long time.

    I hide the account's name for not giving anet an excuse to close this thread.

    the rewards for winning 1643 is
    4732 Gold
    32760 Shard of Glory
    18200 Ascended Shards of Glory
    1092 Unidentified Dye
    and the reward for losing 1781 is 33% of the previous reward of winning 1643 game

    that is fun

    Math seems wrong on ascended shards. That's a lot of gold though.

  • DragonFury.6243DragonFury.6243 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ryan.9387 said:

    @DragonFury.6243 said:

    @Delweyn.1309 said:
    So this time I tried to add some of those bots in my friend list and the proportion of what I discovered is just... unbelievable.

    Here it is. And it's just 3 of them.
    noelshack.com/2018-52-5-1545987270-image4.jpg

    The stats are for this season only! And it's not finished.

    So what we must understand is

    • those bots are just ruining the pvp game experience for so many players, with total impunity
    • imagine how many gold they got and how many gems they can get each season! Make you dream no ?

    So for the moment, 1 bot made 3424 matches in 45 days, so more than 76 matches per day.
    At the end of this season, it will have like 4256 matches played.
    This is for 1 bot and as I said in another tread, there are many of them.
    76 matches X (8 minutes match + 5 minutes for queue and preparation) = 988 minutes/day = average 16 hours par day everyday (for 45 days streak, atm)

    • Maybe pointing this can make Anet do their job, because it hits in their wallet
      or...

    • with so many reports, time passing and same bots still here, giving all details about them, no answer at all from Anet...
      then I wonder if it's not a deliberate way for Anet to make pvp living. Because of the low population. At certain time (very early in the morning) I meet those bots by 2 at every single match. Without them, I should have to wait for a very long time.

    I hide the account's name for not giving anet an excuse to close this thread.

    the rewards for winning 1643 is
    4732 Gold
    32760 Shard of Glory
    18200 Ascended Shards of Glory
    1092 Unidentified Dye
    and the reward for losing 1781 is 33% of the previous reward of winning 1643 game

    that is fun

    Math seems wrong on ascended shards. That's a lot of gold though.

    1643 win that mean he can complete the final chest 182 times each time he get 100 so it's fun to play bots

  • Ajaxx.3157Ajaxx.3157 Member ✭✭✭

    Is this NA or EU?

  • Bossun.2046Bossun.2046 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ajaxx.3157 said:
    Is this NA or EU?

    Obviously EU

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  • Solori.6025Solori.6025 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2018

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 I wonder if, since you guys see game stats, you ever consider checking on games of people with absurdly high matches played with reports attached to their account.

    Tingle my stingleberry

  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2018

    @DragonFury.6243 said:

    @Ryan.9387 said:

    @DragonFury.6243 said:

    @Delweyn.1309 said:
    So this time I tried to add some of those bots in my friend list and the proportion of what I discovered is just... unbelievable.

    Here it is. And it's just 3 of them.
    noelshack.com/2018-52-5-1545987270-image4.jpg

    The stats are for this season only! And it's not finished.

    So what we must understand is

    • those bots are just ruining the pvp game experience for so many players, with total impunity
    • imagine how many gold they got and how many gems they can get each season! Make you dream no ?

    So for the moment, 1 bot made 3424 matches in 45 days, so more than 76 matches per day.
    At the end of this season, it will have like 4256 matches played.
    This is for 1 bot and as I said in another tread, there are many of them.
    76 matches X (8 minutes match + 5 minutes for queue and preparation) = 988 minutes/day = average 16 hours par day everyday (for 45 days streak, atm)

    • Maybe pointing this can make Anet do their job, because it hits in their wallet
      or...

    • with so many reports, time passing and same bots still here, giving all details about them, no answer at all from Anet...
      then I wonder if it's not a deliberate way for Anet to make pvp living. Because of the low population. At certain time (very early in the morning) I meet those bots by 2 at every single match. Without them, I should have to wait for a very long time.

    I hide the account's name for not giving anet an excuse to close this thread.

    the rewards for winning 1643 is
    4732 Gold
    32760 Shard of Glory
    18200 Ascended Shards of Glory
    1092 Unidentified Dye
    and the reward for losing 1781 is 33% of the previous reward of winning 1643 game

    that is fun

    Math seems wrong on ascended shards. That's a lot of gold though.

    1643 win that mean he can complete the final chest 182 times each time he get 100 so it's fun to play bots

    Rewards are

    • final byzantium chest (20 golds)
    • each rank before final chest (5 X 1.5 golds)
    • all the rewards from "reward track" chosen. I don't know which one is the most rewarding. But we can get gold weapons like greatsword that you can sell at +40 silver.
      With all dyes and pvp potions reward track that boost all and all trash items.

    So those 3 in loop.

    It's just scandalous for all players who put efforts to make some golds.

  • Exedore.6320Exedore.6320 Member ✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    These bots are ranked higher than I expected

    Bronze league means you're worse than a bot. Bots have been occupying mid-silver for over a year.

  • sad
    /15sads

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • DragonFury.6243DragonFury.6243 Member ✭✭✭✭

    with all that Ascended Shards of Glory and Gold i can craft legendary PvP armor and buy eternity in less than 1 season
    so where i can find this bot program ....... (this is just between you and me dont snitch on me)

  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DragonFury.6243 said:
    with all that Ascended Shards of Glory and Gold i can craft legendary PvP armor and buy eternity in less than 1 season
    so where i can find this bot program ....... (this is just between you and me dont snitch on me)

    Time to start using those free trials.

  • @DragonFury.6243 said:
    with all that Ascended Shards of Glory and Gold i can craft legendary PvP armor and buy eternity in less than 1 season
    so where i can find this bot program ....... (this is just between you and me dont snitch on me)

    Ascended shards of glory was capped at 400 per season. The repeatable Byzantium chest did NOT give ascended shards after the first completion. Has that been changed?

  • DAN.7314DAN.7314 Member ✭✭

    The bots are also getting a bonus pip for top stats every game I would guess too. 3k games is 3k more pips. That's another 16 of the final repeatable chests.

  • DragonFury.6243DragonFury.6243 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @DragonFury.6243 said:
    with all that Ascended Shards of Glory and Gold i can craft legendary PvP armor and buy eternity in less than 1 season
    so where i can find this bot program ....... (this is just between you and me dont snitch on me)

    Ascended shards of glory was capped at 400 per season. The repeatable Byzantium chest did NOT give ascended shards after the first completion. Has that been changed?

    Repeated completions of the final reward tier, Byzantium, continue to reward 100 shards each

  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2018

    Seing that those bots are still running after thousands matches. It's seems really that anet do nothing about it.
    I think they do only against the speed/TP/flying hacks that are very obvious to spot for any player and because of videos that harm the image of the game.
    As long as bots are moving with just automated actions, they leave them make golds like crazy. The number of matches prove it.

  • Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭

    OOF - pretty good proof that bots really do exist. Even more funny if they're all mirage.

  • Not bots, just stronlo's alts.

  • Jeknar.6184Jeknar.6184 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    OOF - pretty good proof that bots really do exist. Even more funny if they're all mirage.

    Maybe it was a illusion all along...

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  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Delweyn.1309 said:
    Seing that those bots are still running after thousands matches. It's seems really that anet do nothing about it.
    I think they do only against the speed/TP/flying hacks that are very obvious to spot for any player and because of videos that harm the image of the game.
    As long as bots are moving with just automated actions, they leave them make golds like crazy. The number of matches prove it.

    No they dont fix anything. The only time they actually take action is when someone puts a bit of truth out like how there is a severe lack of caring. Then comments are deleted and you are warned lol.

    It's quite sad they have such horrible priorities.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ziggityzog.7389 said:

    @Delweyn.1309 said:
    Seing that those bots are still running after thousands matches. It's seems really that anet do nothing about it.
    I think they do only against the speed/TP/flying hacks that are very obvious to spot for any player and because of videos that harm the image of the game.
    As long as bots are moving with just automated actions, they leave them make golds like crazy. The number of matches prove it.

    No they dont fix anything. The only time they actually take action is when someone puts a bit of truth out like how there is a severe lack of caring. Then comments are deleted and you are warned lol.

    It's quite sad they have such horrible priorities.

    There will probably be a thread closure once people realize Anet bans accounts and not IPs and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
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  • I would hope that ArenaNet will track where those bot accounts are sending their gold/loot. Follow the trail. Mercilessly swing ban hammer.
    However, history does not make that seem likely. I have never understood when games do not seem to adequately police their game from those that would actively harm it and the community they try to build. I love GW2, how it trys to be many things for many people, and does a reasonably good job for many of them. Truly an accomplishment. But sPvP is very sick. Leaving aside balance issues, sone poor trait and skill design (opinion), low population and lack of options beyond conquest, there are some very bad apples. These players, some very well known, some very skilled, continually poison the well. The manipulations, the abuse, the thumbing their nose at everyone. They never seem to be removed, their consequences for this behavior insubstantial. We suspected and have seen botting, this is ridiculous. My wife has decided to no long play PvP in any real amount. I already hardly play this mode either. I would never be more than an average player without alot more time spent in this mode, but seeing and experiencing the above issues on top of blatant botting is just too much. I was starting to think I should record my few matches, to identify suspected bots...but why bother. I am way too casual to go this route, and the rest of the mode gives me no incentive to spend more time in it. I would rather spend time doing something I enjoy, and it is not PvP as it stands now. I know I am not alone.
    I recommend ArenaNet deal with these flagrant abuses, both botting and other manipulations, and let the community see them do it. I also recommend reducing the sheer value of the rewards in favor of PvP-only rewards at least until the integrity of the competition improves. The other options are to just to eliminate PvP, or let it die a slow death. The current state of the mode has caused many, many people to not play it. Proof of blatant botting is the final straw. At least remove the benefits of anyone doing so. Looking forward to a response from ArenaNet on this issue.

  • Malafaia.8903Malafaia.8903 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Tbh i've never seen a bot in a match. I'm not playing that much in the last 2 seasons (about 500 games on last one, if i remember correctly, and not even 200 games this season), but the numbers on the screenshot simply don't lie.
    MINIMUN the community deserves is a a statement from Anet. Like, seriously.

  • @Classic Perception.2507 said:
    Not bots, just stronlo's alts.

    Can confirm. These ‘bots’ are in fact just me on different accounts. How else can I play 5k games per season without looking like a nolifer? Kappa

  • Alatar.7364Alatar.7364 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    ( ...) and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.

    I think that's why it takes Anet so long to ban those bots and their "owners", they are probably waiting for them to send the Gold/Items so they can track the owners account and ban their main.

    However if that's the thing I find it difficult to believe that Anet wouldn't have access to the IP addresses with which the accounts were made.

    ~ I Aear cân ven na mar

  • @Alatar.7364 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    ( ...) and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.

    I think that's why it takes Anet so long to ban those bots and their "owners", they are probably waiting for them to send the Gold/Items so they can track the owners account and ban their main.

    However if that's the thing I find it difficult to believe that Anet wouldn't have access to the IP addresses with which the accounts were made.

    Worse, thats Anet, they are not aware about it unless players whine hard enough

  • Abazigal.3679Abazigal.3679 Member ✭✭✭

    When i'm logging into GW1 and notice the amount of bots and cheaters, that are doing it for about 6 years, i'm actually wondering if it's that easy to detect them.
    Log in Heroes Ascent, you have about 5 real players and easily 50 bots( if not more ) doing it for years now.

  • @Alatar.7364 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    ( ...) and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.

    I think that's why it takes Anet so long to ban those bots and their "owners", they are probably waiting for them to send the Gold/Items so they can track the owners account and ban their main.

    However if that's the thing I find it difficult to believe that Anet wouldn't have access to the IP addresses with which the accounts were made.

    What's great is that there are 16k players who've had their games ruined by each bot. So if they're trying to catch the responsible parties, maybe not the smartest way to go about it.

  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Good question to ask here, just curious for the sake of accumulating data:

    What division do you guys play in where you are being teamed with bots so often?

  • Alatar.7364Alatar.7364 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2018

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    Good question to ask here, just curious for the sake of accumulating data:

    What division do you guys play in where you are being teamed with bots so often?

    I've had them all the way in Plat 3 once.
    Only once while there though.

    ~ I Aear cân ven na mar

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2018

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    Good question to ask here, just curious for the sake of accumulating data:

    What division do you guys play in where you are being teamed with bots so often?

    Ive either had people on mushrooms or bots in gold.. mostly rage throwers is what I saw though

    For every 10 or so rage throwers theres 1 guy who I assume is off his face on something heavy.

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  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2018

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    Good question to ask here, just curious for the sake of accumulating data:

    What division do you guys play in where you are being teamed with bots so often?

    As you can see in the screenshot, the one I'm talking about are in silver 1-3.

    But they are not all working as efficiently. The one I caught in the videos (I'm uploading atm) is the weakest. It is buggy and can be killed easily (or the owner reduced it's power to not gain too much rank).
    But there are mirage bots that can beat easily silver1-3 players in 1v1. As a sniper, at the exact moment that I'm stunning them, they use dodge+invisibility and they run to you en engage with everything.

  • Vagrant.7206Vagrant.7206 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Screenshot is giving an error. Load to imgur?

    The great god Lagki demands sacrifice!

  • @Alatar.7364 said:

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    Good question to ask here, just curious for the sake of accumulating data:

    What division do you guys play in where you are being teamed with bots so often?

    I've had them all the way in Plat 3 once.
    Only once while there though.

    Yeah, and I've seen them in Legendary too.

    I call BS on this one.

  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vagrant.7206 said:
    Screenshot is giving an error. Load to imgur?

    https://imgur.com/5zqEf1g

  • OriOri.8724OriOri.8724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:

    @Delweyn.1309 said:

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:
    Im not a PvP Player but would not just the sheer number of games played this season indicate a Bot?

    I mean... 3k games? I this even humanly possible?

    A game is about 8-10 minutes. You can count that + taking into account the waiting time in the lobby + time spend before games really launch.

    It's why I'm questioning about Anet.
    After watching how these bots are working and giving all the details + reports, I still see them by 2 sometimes at every matches.
    There is something fishy about all of this, really...

    One other thing.
    I first thought to be a meme lord and comment:
    Mesmer is the true killer of PvP.

    But then i read your other post about how most Bots are Mirage´s.

    Soooo.... would removing the bots not result in ALOT less Mirage´s in low lvl play and therefor more new People enjoying PvP?

    Big Think

    Yes, it would result in a lot fewer Mirages, but it doesn't necessarily mean that more new people would enjoy PvP. It could, ironically enough, have the opposite effect. The PvP population is fairly small in GW2 compared to the total number of players, and a not insignificant portion of that population are bots. Matchmaking already has problems (though Anet has done an amazing job imo of making it better) for really low ranked players, and for new players, getting them matched up well because of this low population, and removing bots would only compound the issue. For this to have any real impact on new players (I'm assuming here that the vast majority of new PvP players won't be that great when they start, I think its a fair assumption), they'd have to stick around long enough for matchmaking to figure out what their real skill level is, and for the population to stabilize so that the matchmaker can do its job, and then their experiences should start being better overall.

    Eyyyy I unlocked signatures

  • This situation pretty much sums up what's left of the PvP community.

    Rest in Pepperonis.

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