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Will we be able to use the Warclaw outside of WvW?

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  • Amineo.8951Amineo.8951 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    I do like the design of this mount more than the existing ones in PvE, it's a big cat on top of it! And you can use it for combat aswell, which is something that I wanted.

  • Probably, more people will buy skins for it that way.

  • Dragongal.6390Dragongal.6390 Member ✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    pve players have to come in for the gift of battle so it's already a thing lol

  • Aodlop.1907Aodlop.1907 Member ✭✭✭

    The only two mounts you need are the griffon and the bunny. The other ones are made useless by these two so you won't use them anyway.

  • keenedge.9675keenedge.9675 Member ✭✭✭

    Seems like we don't even know what it's use will be. It could just be a siege device like the golem.

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  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dragongal.6390 said:
    Will we be able to use the Warclaw outside of WvW?

    Doesn't appear that one would be able to have this outside of WvW. At least that's how I'm reading the announcement?

    The cat’s out of the bag. Something big is coming to World vs. World next week!

    On February 26, befriend the warclaw—a new mount available exclusively through WvW. It’s the only mount that can carry you into battle in the Mist War, where its skills truly shine.
    WvW Weeklong Bonus

    To get you in the saddle quickly, you’ll earn double WXP when playing in WvW from February 26 to March 5.

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  • @kharmin.7683 said:

    @Dragongal.6390 said:
    Will we be able to use the Warclaw outside of WvW?

    Doesn't appear that one would be able to have this outside of WvW. At least that's how I'm reading the announcement?

    The cat’s out of the bag. Something big is coming to World vs. World next week!

    On February 26, befriend the warclaw—a new mount available exclusively through WvW. It’s the only mount that can carry you into battle in the Mist War, where its skills truly shine.
    WvW Weeklong Bonus

    To get you in the saddle quickly, you’ll earn double WXP when playing in WvW from February 26 to March 5.

    I’m going to guess it can be used in PvE. It doesn’t say it can’t and people using it in PvE would be a big draw to WvW to players who see it in PvE. However any special actions might be WvW only.

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  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I’m going to guess it can be used in PvE. It doesn’t say it can’t and people using it in PvE would be a big draw to WvW to players who see it in PvE. However any special actions might be WvW only.

    You may be right. I just thought that the line "available exclusively through WvW" meant more than players have to go there to get it.

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  • @kharmin.7683 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I’m going to guess it can be used in PvE. It doesn’t say it can’t and people using it in PvE would be a big draw to WvW to players who see it in PvE. However any special actions might be WvW only.

    You may be right. I just thought that the line "available exclusively through WvW" meant more than players have to go there to get it.

    I read that as how you can get it (WvW only, not gemstore or a new pve map) rather than how it can be used.

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  • Skotlex.7580Skotlex.7580 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    @Ssenkra Bloodroot.1028 said:
    On a side note, judging by the trailer the Warclaw seems to have the inherent ability to effectively bust open gates. Doesn't this completely invalidate the Battering Ram as a siege option? Why would i waste construction time and valuable resources to build something to deal with gates when I can simply pop out a ram from the infinite nether that is Mount storage?
    Is this what Siege in WvW will look like going forward? Eventually all of the things requiring resources to build will be replaced with Mounts?

    I believe the ram damage will be quite small compared to an actual battering ram. I am betting the idea that these will complement, not replace, the rams.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I’m going to guess it can be used in PvE. It doesn’t say it can’t and people using it in PvE would be a big draw to WvW to players who see it in PvE. However any special actions might be WvW only.

    You may be right. I just thought that the line "available exclusively through WvW" meant more than players have to go there to get it.

    I read that as how you can get it (WvW only, not gemstore or a new pve map) rather than how it can be used.

    Yeah, I can see that, too. Just didn't make a lot of sense to me as this WvW mount doesn't (at first glance) appear to do anything that the current PvE mounts could accomplish whereas with no mounts in WvW this one would be more useful.

    Guess we'll find out next week.

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  • @Ssenkra Bloodroot.1028 said:

    On a side note, judging by the trailer the Warclaw seems to have the inherent ability to effectively bust open gates. Doesn't this completely invalidate the Battering Ram as a siege option? Why would i waste construction time and valuable resources to build something to deal with gates when I can simply pop out a ram from the infinite nether that is Mount storage?
    Is this what Siege in WvW will look like going forward? Eventually all of the things requiring resources to build will be replaced with Mounts?

    If the mount works similar to pve mounts, you won't be able to mount while in combat and if additionally it has low hp like the mounts in pve, you won't be able to use it while under pressure from enemy players or arrow carts. In this case rams will still be needed. This is all with a big "if" as we don't know how it will be designed

  • Kinda disappointed that they made a new Big Cat mount, was hoping some more unique mount like spider or horse/deer etc

  • I hope its overpowered just to add insult to injury lol.
    trollnet really outdid themselves this time.

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  • Dragana.1497Dragana.1497 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    @Aaralyna.3104 said:
    I don't really play wvw and mostly pve... I don't mind they added a mount to wvw only but...

    Lets say you are a new player in wvw.... You will not have a mount yet (nor will the ones without pof)... I can already see it happen that this will be another mode killed coz they simply can't keep up with ppl racing on mount from point a to point b. This is already happening in pve events (see silverwastes as a great example). So in the long run, I think this move will kick even more players out of wvw. The few that just want the mount to have the mount will get it and then leave wvw anyways (and we probably see complains the mount is useless coz its not pve :P )

    A good start to fix wvw is balancing, the ability to actually be able to enter a map thats not full, the server riddance (which is in the works) and probably more stuff that the wvw community can input.

    This is my concern aswell. You want to learn WvW? Just try to keep up buddy. It'll be fine.

    Hopefully the live stream on Friday will address this concern. And maybe answer some of the other questions posed in this thread aswell.

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  • This sounds fantastic. I remember when gliding was added to WvW and how much more fun the game mode became from one simple addition.

    WvW gets plenty of love and attention, in comparison to PvP.

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I suspect we'll get it from a reward track but they will also add WvW abilities tied to it (only available in WvW of course)
    I wonder what kind of abilities those are going to be.

  • @kharmin.7683 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I’m going to guess it can be used in PvE. It doesn’t say it can’t and people using it in PvE would be a big draw to WvW to players who see it in PvE. However any special actions might be WvW only.

    You may be right. I just thought that the line "available exclusively through WvW" meant more than players have to go there to get it.

    I read that as how you can get it (WvW only, not gemstore or a new pve map) rather than how it can be used.

    Yeah, I can see that, too. Just didn't make a lot of sense to me as this WvW mount doesn't (at first glance) appear to do anything that the current PvE mounts could accomplish whereas with no mounts in WvW this one would be more useful.

    Guess we'll find out next week.

    /me shrugs

    I see what you mean. I think it has abilities that pve mounts already have also. However I don’t think special WvW abilities are the point. It’s the cosmetics (and the speed boost in WvW). Like the WvW backpack, you can use a WvW backpack in PvE but if you want it you have to WvW.

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  • So...wow. Its been a while. Most of the time I've just stayed silent because well, I'd just given up. But this one. Wow. I get it, WvW is bleeding active players for some time now and mounts are the new hotness. I get it. I also know that those maps are already small enough that mounts were always unnecessary except for perhaps the Desert map. And even then, it forced players to account for speed buffs which added to havoc strategies. Here is the problem I see with this mount though (and no it has nothing to do with PvE players flooding WvW since that is probably the only good thing).

    • Veteran players will have a severe leg up on new players, which means they will get and master the mount first and might turn off the potential new players to the game mode.
    • New players will focus solely on trying to get the mount to catch up to the vet players just to feel like they are on "even footing" and therefore not learn the game mode or just leave in frustration.
    • Vets will be using this as a slaughter bag fest if/when they get onto a map.
    • On 3 of the 4 maps the mount is completely useless, or rather it makes those maps trivial. single havoc runners will make even quicker work of camps before defenses can get there and small havoc groups will flip assets even faster turning the whole defense of a map into even more of a joke than it has been since launch.

    I guess in the long run WvW as a game mode is just another way to fast track some loot through the play and wait for your reward track and pips to accumulate, and nothing to do with actually having good battles over assets, but still. I just think some of us were hoping that something would be done to help WvW other than dangling a carrot in front of PvE player faces and hoping they stick around for the loot bars to fill up.

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  • Pretty Pixie.8603Pretty Pixie.8603 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    This isn’t going to attract PvEers to WvW. sure, loads will come check it out. Then they’ll discover the grindind required to get it while being killed by vets who will likely be able to get it way faster than any newbie, since most of the vets have plenty of badges/tickets/rank pointx available. It’ll also be likely gated behind PoF, creaing an extra barrier to participation.

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  • @maddoctor.2738 said:
    I suspect we'll get it from a reward track but they will also add WvW abilities tied to it (only available in WvW of course)
    I wonder what kind of abilities those are going to be.

    https://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/guild-wars-2-wvw-mount-warclaw-announced/

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  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Pretty Pixie.8603 said:
    It’ll also be likely gated behind PoF, creaing an extra barrier to participation.

    That is my major concern. If acquiring the mount is time gated, then those who have it will have an advantage (?) over those who don't.

    If I had to guess, use of the mount will be limited to a tactics or something, similar to a Charr Car, so only 1 or 2 (etc) will be able to mount at a time, while everyone can use the mount everywhere out in PvE.

    As for how they acquire it, to get a Legendary backpack all you needed was a certain WvW rank, a certain amount of tickets, and to shell out 300g for the Commander's title. I doubt ANET wants people to just be able to purchase this on the 26th of Feb with materials/currency already accumulated, but I highly doubt they would hype a mount and then say "sorry, requires WvW rank 2000 to purchase". Or maybe they will..../shrug

  • @Turkeyspit.3965 said:

    @Pretty Pixie.8603 said:
    It’ll also be likely gated behind PoF, creaing an extra barrier to participation.

    That is my major concern. If acquiring the mount is time gated, then those who have it will have an advantage (?) over those who don't.

    If I had to guess, use of the mount will be limited to a tactics or something, similar to a Charr Car, so only 1 or 2 (etc) will be able to mount at a time, while everyone can use the mount everywhere out in PvE.

    As for how they acquire it, to get a Legendary backpack all you needed was a certain WvW rank, a certain amount of tickets, and to shell out 300g for the Commander's title. I doubt ANET wants people to just be able to purchase this on the 26th of Feb with materials/currency already accumulated, but I highly doubt they would hype a mount and then say "sorry, requires WvW rank 2000 to purchase". Or maybe they will..../shrug

    If we look at gliding the it will be unlocked with WvW ability points.

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  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Pretty Pixie.8603 said:

    @Turkeyspit.3965 said:

    @Pretty Pixie.8603 said:
    It’ll also be likely gated behind PoF, creaing an extra barrier to participation.

    That is my major concern. If acquiring the mount is time gated, then those who have it will have an advantage (?) over those who don't.

    If I had to guess, use of the mount will be limited to a tactics or something, similar to a Charr Car, so only 1 or 2 (etc) will be able to mount at a time, while everyone can use the mount everywhere out in PvE.

    As for how they acquire it, to get a Legendary backpack all you needed was a certain WvW rank, a certain amount of tickets, and to shell out 300g for the Commander's title. I doubt ANET wants people to just be able to purchase this on the 26th of Feb with materials/currency already accumulated, but I highly doubt they would hype a mount and then say "sorry, requires WvW rank 2000 to purchase". Or maybe they will..../shrug

    If we look at gliding the it will be unlocked with WvW ability points.

    Are those ability points account bound?

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  • Pretty Pixie.8603Pretty Pixie.8603 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    Are those ability points account bound?

    They are, yes. If you already have some you can also reset thrm through a vendor at spawn.

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  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Pretty Pixie.8603 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    Are those ability points account bound?

    They are, yes. If you already have some you can also reset thrm through a vendor at spawn.

    I thought as much. If this is the case, then I don't see ability points being the "currency" to obtain the mount. I could see it for mount abilities, though.

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  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Would prefer a charrpanzer

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dragongal.6390 said:
    Will we be able to use the Warclaw outside of WvW?

    Yes it will be usable in Open World

    Yes it will require Path of Fire

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  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Aeolus.3615 said:
    Would prefer a charrpanzer

    Charr Car!!!!

    It does make sense for the mount's abilities to be unlocked by WvW points rather than Mastery Points, but would they really just give everyone a mount for spending WXP points? Seems too easy...

    Part of me also wonders if you have to build the mount each time you want to ride it, similar to a Golem, rather than just summoning it and using it like in PvE. Guess we'll all have to wait a week to find out lol

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    @Ssenkra Bloodroot.1028 said:
    If I could be That Guy for a moment; I really don't think that segregation of mounts via content is the right course to take. Like the Glider, I feel that mounts should be something that's universally available regardless of what you're doing. (baring the few obvious locations where they inherently break the activity)

    On a side note, judging by the trailer the Warclaw seems to have the inherent ability to effectively bust open gates. Doesn't this completely invalidate the Battering Ram as a siege option? Why would i waste construction time and valuable resources to build something to deal with gates when I can simply pop out a ram from the infinite nether that is Mount storage?
    Is this what Siege in WvW will look like going forward? Eventually all of the things requiring resources to build will be replaced with Mounts?

    I'm going to guess that the damage is about the same as a base ram without points invested. So if you are in a rush, you'll get through the gate much faster with a couple of superior rams. However, if you're alone, and there's not enough people to build a ram, I suspect this will be an alternative for that.

    I doubt they will balance it such that big guilds will show up and just mount down the doors. They will still build, but this might also lessen the impact of siege disabling, which is too strong right now imo.

    Time will tell.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Should see the venting in the WvW forums

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  • @kharmin.7683 said:

    @Pretty Pixie.8603 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    Are those ability points account bound?

    They are, yes. If you already have some you can also reset thrm through a vendor at spawn.

    I thought as much. If this is the case, then I don't see ability points being the "currency" to obtain the mount. I could see it for mount abilities, though.

    300 - 500 ranks would be all the time gating you’d need for the average player.

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  • @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Dragongal.6390 said:
    Will we be able to use the Warclaw outside of WvW?

    Did you read the article before writing this post?

    If you mean the post under the news section then yes. It didn't specify so that's why I'm asking.

    @Randulf.7614 said:

    @Dragongal.6390 said:
    Will we be able to use the Warclaw outside of WvW?

    Yes it will be usable in Open World

    Yes it will require Path of Fire

    Where did you see this information? If that's true then awesome!

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    @Dragongal.6390 said:

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Dragongal.6390 said:
    Will we be able to use the Warclaw outside of WvW?

    Did you read the article before writing this post?

    If you mean the post under the news section then yes. It didn't specify so that's why I'm asking.

    @Randulf.7614 said:

    @Dragongal.6390 said:
    Will we be able to use the Warclaw outside of WvW?

    Yes it will be usable in Open World

    Yes it will require Path of Fire

    Where did you see this information? If that's true then awesome!

    https://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/guild-wars-2-wvw-mount-warclaw-announced/

    Sadly they chose not to put the details in official announcement

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  • Dragongal.6390Dragongal.6390 Member ✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    https://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/guild-wars-2-wvw-mount-warclaw-announced/

    Sadly they chose not to put the details in official announcement

    Sweet! I know it's not going to have much use outside WvW but I'm just glad that I can run around on a battle cat :)

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dragongal.6390 said:

    https://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/guild-wars-2-wvw-mount-warclaw-announced/

    Sadly they chose not to put the details in official announcement

    Sweet! I know it's not going to have much use outside WvW but I'm just glad that I can run around on a battle cat :)

    Oh I agree, depending on how difficult it will be to get (oh who am I kidding, ill be getting it regardless)

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Oh that looks cool! Has there been any info on what we need to do to unlock it?

    I'm also happy about the WvW bonuses. I've been meaning to get back into WvW, especially since I realised the skin I like is the Triumphant Hero's Brigandine and not just the Hero's one, so I need 300 more skirmish tickets.

    I take it I'm not the only one planning to dye it green with red armour (which will have to wait until we have skins for it, but I doubt that will take long).

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  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2019

    @Turkeyspit.3965 said:

    @Aeolus.3615 said:
    Would prefer a charrpanzer

    Charr Car!!!!

    It does make sense for the mount's abilities to be unlocked by WvW points rather than Mastery Points, but would they really just give everyone a mount for spending WXP points? Seems too easy...

    Part of me also wonders if you have to build the mount each time you want to ride it, similar to a Golem, rather than just summoning it and using it like in PvE. Guess we'll all have to wait a week to find out lol

    Golems are in fact a mount that players need to built, not every mount must ment "race car". :}

    I hope Claw comes with restriction like for the commander only for example.
    Issue is will would see a sea of tags just for people to use and find a gimmick way to abuse...

  • @Aeolus.3615 said:
    Golems are in fact a mount that players need to built, not every mount must ment "race car". :}

    I hope Claw comes with restriction like for the commander only for example.
    Issue is will would see a sea of tags just for people to use and find a gimmick way to abuse...

    You don't need that to see a sea of tags. Just have a group of people looking to goof off for a while and start a parade in WvW and say to put up your tag as part of it.

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  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @PookieDaWombat.6209 said:

    @Aeolus.3615 said:
    Golems are in fact a mount that players need to built, not every mount must ment "race car". :}

    I hope Claw comes with restriction like for the commander only for example.
    Issue is will would see a sea of tags just for people to use and find a gimmick way to abuse...

    You don't need that to see a sea of tags. Just have a group of people looking to goof off for a while and start a parade in WvW and say to put up your tag as part of it.

    What i ment is Claw usage needs to be limited, alot of players have comander tags, i bet most would buy a tag just for a new claw meta zerg since theres no suplly for sure needed to pull gates with it.. imgine 60-80 players w/o siege suply just call mount cap n leave... from structure to structure....

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