Tyson.5160 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 @Randulf.7614 said:@Ardid.7203 said:@Randulf.7614 said:@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:@Arden.7480 said:@Orpheal.8263 said:Smaug ..ehm, oh, no ,already taken, my bad xDHow about ( looking for names that go smooth over the togue)SiendeidarasShyllaethSathaerlossSharinnedo'ul (a bit more playing around with spelling here, makng this way the name sound more interesting)ShaesadethrSheherazade (jk xD)somethign alogn this I'd surely vote for it as name ^^ Most likely if it woudl go after me and my idea,s it take Sharinnedo'ul I guessmeh, i doubt everyone is able to read these names.And people complain Kralkatorrik is too hard to remember and pronounce...@Randulf.7614 said:@Arden.7480 said:@Orpheal.8263 said:Smaug ..ehm, oh, no ,already taken, my bad xDHow about ( looking for names that go smooth over the togue)SiendeidarasShyllaethSathaerlossSharinnedo'ul (a bit more playing around with spelling here, makng this way the name sound more interesting)ShaesadethrSheherazade (jk xD)somethign alogn this I'd surely vote for it as name ^^ Most likely if it woudl go after me and my idea,s it take Sharinnedo'ul I guessmeh, i doubt everyone is able to read these names.I agree.Personally I don't think they will name it. If the name is lost to history, unless it comes up to introduce itself with a wave and a handshake, then I suspect if we ever encounter it, they will use "Deep Sea Dragon" or equivalent.If they do name it, I hope they use it as a good way of digging further back into older rises. We've touched upon it a little with the Mursaat tablets and a few other bits, but I think if we could somehow uncover something much older than previously discovered, then that could be really intriguingIf its minions speak like 4 out of 5 other dragons' minions, then it will get named by its forces if nothing else.And getting more details on the prior rise would be nice, especially to iron out the inconsistencies (was it 10,000 or 3,000 years ago? ANET YOU KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH!).Come to think about it, the names all originate from the Dragons themselves. So if it was written down, a race would have previously discovered before from the Dragon/Minions. I wonder, rather than just use speech, we will "sense" it somehow from them - that would be more in keeping with a horror/eldritch style if they choose to use that theme for the Dragon.If I remeber well, the name "Mordremoth" simply got to us from the mere presence of the dragon. I believe their names are just felt, known in the subconscious mind even before anyone actually write them.Scylla is just perfect, IMO.I believe bobby stein confirmed we knew it because it of knowledge within the pact, they just did a bad job of conveying it, hence why it seemed to come from nowhereI think what had happened here was a missing piece of plot, which was included in the alternate scenario that was suppose to occur at the Season 1 with the death of Scarlet. Season 1 had an alternate ending in which Marjory died and Scarlet revealed that she served Mordremoth. There is also additional dialogue talking about Mordremoth in the Season 1 ending instance. So if Scarlet revealed this information and then they talk more about Mordremoth in the dead end bar, it makes more sense how we jumped to the conclusion that Mordremoth was behind the attacks in Season 2 as they had a much better reveal at the end of Season 1. I suspect that they forgot about this detail, hence why the scene doesn’t make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thandaer.8105 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:@"Fenom.9457" said:I hope the selbbub joke is honored somewhere in game but sadly we all know that would NOT be a menacing name for the dragonRandom Quaggan: "Coo. Scary dragon too scary. Quaggan makes it less scary by changing its name. Dragon's name is now Bubbles. Bubbles not scary."-minion attack-Random Quaggan: "Quaggan was wrong! Bubbles scary! Bubbles very scary! FooOOoo!"This. Must. Happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithranArkanere.8957 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 It is not know. All we know is he initial. "S".A few devs favor the name "Selbbub" some people made up after learning it starts with S, not wanting to give up "Bubbles", they simply reversed it as it ended with S. If we look at the names of the other dragons, they appear to follow different patterns: Jormag is clearly reminiscent of "Jörmungandr", and goes close to the norse theme of the norn. Kralkatorrik seems to be more about the feeling of the sound. Lightning crackle, cracks in crystals. Mordremoth's name could have been inspired by "Modredus" and "Mordred". Primordus's name reminds of "Primordial", as in "primordial rock". Zhaitan's name sounds like a mix of "Satan" and "Zombie", but I suspect that was just a coincidence.But all the names match the vibe of each dragon we've seen. Seeing how silent, secrete and secluded "S" is, the name has to have quite some esses.SssssThen let's give it a feel of tentacles and wobbly water, since all anyone has ever seen from S was minions that seemed to be made out of water itself, and that looked like tentacles. So we need some undulating and gobbling sounds here. Ups and downs for the vowels, starting with a low, dark vowel as S would come from below.SaseesaseeThen add some watery wobbles and gargles...SawsbleessgarsgleesWell... that didn't go well... Let's try to streamline that into something that looks less stupid...SawbeesgarnesarA little more tweak...Sawinganezzar.Oh, I know, let's put the "sh" sound of waves in a shore at the end and tweak it a bit more and...Sabenganesh.Ok. I give up. Forget all of that. Something tells me that "S" a she, and that she's called "Señor Bubbles", like a female cat being called "Mr Snookums" for a long time but then the family realizes it was a she, but calling a female cat "Mr" was kind of cure and they have been calling her that for a long time, so it stuck.It's the only logical possibility. left. "Señor Bubbles" it is. Take it to the print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I suspect it will some variation of Scylla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perilisk.1874 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Serendipity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 @"MithranArkanere.8957" said:It is not know. All we know is he initial. "S".A few devs favor the name "Selbbub" some people made up after learning it starts with S, not wanting to give up "Bubbles", they simply reversed it as it ended with S. If we look at the names of the other dragons, they appear to follow different patterns: Jormag is clearly reminiscent of "Jörmungandr", and goes close to the norse theme of the norn. Kralkatorrik seems to be more about the feeling of the sound. Lightning crackle, cracks in crystals. Mordremoth's name could have been inspired by "Modredus" and "Mordred". Primordus's name reminds of "Primordial", as in "primordial rock". Zhaitan's name sounds like a mix of "Satan" and "Zombie", but I suspect that was just a coincidence.But all the names match the vibe of each dragon we've seen. Seeing how silent, secrete and secluded "S" is, the name has to have quite some esses.SssssThen let's give it a feel of tentacles and wobbly water, since all anyone has ever seen from S was minions that seemed to be made out of water itself, and that looked like tentacles. So we need some undulating and gobbling sounds here. Ups and downs for the vowels, starting with a low, dark vowel as S would come from below.SaseesaseeThen add some watery wobbles and gargles...SawsbleessgarsgleesWell... that didn't go well... Let's try to streamline that into something that looks less stupid...SawbeesgarnesarA little more tweak...Sawinganezzar.Oh, I know, let's put the "sh" sound of waves in a shore at the end and tweak it a bit more and...Sabenganesh.Ok. I give up. Forget all of that. Something tells me that "S" a she, and that she's called "Señor Bubbles", like a female cat being called "Mr Snookums" for a long time but then the family realizes it was a she, but calling a female cat "Mr" was kind of cure and they have been calling her that for a long time, so it stuck.It's the only logical possibility. left. "Señor Bubbles" it is. Take it to the print. Sabenganesh is actually pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom.8029 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Scleratia, like the Sclerite weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 as far as i know the DSD is based on lovecrafts work (given the tentacled horror minions and its location) so the name is probably similar to cthulu or Shub-Niggurath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 His friends call him "Tim" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castigator.3470 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Shtiv it's a short one syllable name to contrast with the longer names of the other elder dragons. Plus, it fits with the theme of Dhuum and the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Kinda hope it’s a female Elder Dragon. Would be a nice change of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 @Tyson.5160 said:Kinda hope it’s a female Elder Dragon. Would be a nice change of pace.i thought the EDs were androgynous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusanyu.4057 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Well they are more like eldritch horrors than true dragons so i will guessShoggoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 @dusanyu.4057 said:Well they are more like eldritch horrors than true dragons so i will guessShoggoththat'd be to obviouswhat about Shuggath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 @derd.6413 said:@Tyson.5160 said:Kinda hope it’s a female Elder Dragon. Would be a nice change of pace.i thought the EDs were androgynousYeah this is a strange one, Mordremoth through Heart of Thorns is described as an it rather then a male for example and yet Kralkatorrik is being described as male, which leaves me to believe that they have a gender of some sort.: That crystal monster—he's HUNTING her!: Kralkatorrik beat back Glint's army. Now he's gorging on the Domain of the Lost.There is also an event that references Jormag as male as well.I’ll search and see if I can find any other gender specific references for the dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 @derd.6413 said:@Tyson.5160 said:Kinda hope it’s a female Elder Dragon. Would be a nice change of pace.i thought the EDs were androgynousIt's more that Tyrians don't really know their gender/sex or if they have one. For all we know, Zhaitan and Primordus are female. And Jormag. Heck, Mordremoth could be too, tbh.Kralkatorrik is the only one who's gender has been attributed, though Kralkatorrik is called equally he and it.(Clarification: IIRC Jormag's gender is also attributed, as male, by Sons of Svanir but they're rather sexist so not a good source).Though it has been suggested that dragons are overall sexless and reproduce asexually, which would mean none of them - even Glint, Aurene, and Vlast - have a biological sex, but attribute themselves more as male or female as other races see. It would also mean there is no father for Vlast/Aurene, and no mother for Glint (though I still fancy the idea that Primordus could be Glint's mother due to the brief similarity in their GW1 models and Primordus' apparent obsession with Glint's children). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 @Tyson.5160 said:@derd.6413 said:@Tyson.5160 said:Kinda hope it’s a female Elder Dragon. Would be a nice change of pace.i thought the EDs were androgynousYeah this is a strange one, Mordremoth through Heart of Thorns is described as an it rather then a male for example and yet Kralkatorrik is being described as male, which leaves me to believe that they have a gender of some sort.: That crystal monster—he's HUNTING her!: Kralkatorrik beat back Glint's army. Now he's gorging on the Domain of the Lost.There is also an event that references Jormag as male as well.I’ll search and see if I can find any other gender specific references for the dragons.it's not uncommon to refer to androgynous things or things with unknown genders as he. jormag is kinda a special case since the religion that surrounds him is practiced by extremely bigoted peeps. (the sons of svanir) so it makes sense they refer to jormag as he.in the end it doesn't really matter tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:@derd.6413 said:@Tyson.5160 said:Kinda hope it’s a female Elder Dragon. Would be a nice change of pace.i thought the EDs were androgynousIt's more that Tyrians don't really know their gender/sex or if they have one. For all we know, Zhaitan and Primordus are female. And Jormag. Heck, Mordremoth could be too, tbh.Kralkatorrik is the only one who's gender has been attributed, though Kralkatorrik is called equally he and it.(Clarification: IIRC Jormag's gender is also attributed, as male, by Sons of Svanir but they're rather sexist so not a good source).Though it has been suggested that dragons are overall sexless and reproduce asexually, which would mean none of them - even Glint, Aurene, and Vlast - have a biological sex, but attribute themselves more as male or female as other races see. It would also mean there is no father for Vlast/Aurene, and no mother for Glint (though I still fancy the idea that Primordus could be Glint's mother due to the brief similarity in their GW1 models and Primordus' apparent obsession with Glint's children).Rytlock Brimstone: We've driven him out of the sky!Caithe: He's still dangerous! Watch yourselves!Eir Stegalkin: We almost have him! Pour it on!In reference to the final battle with Zhaitan. They are all calling Zhaitan him, which is also interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 @derd.6413 said:@Tyson.5160 said:@derd.6413 said:@Tyson.5160 said:Kinda hope it’s a female Elder Dragon. Would be a nice change of pace.i thought the EDs were androgynousYeah this is a strange one, Mordremoth through Heart of Thorns is described as an it rather then a male for example and yet Kralkatorrik is being described as male, which leaves me to believe that they have a gender of some sort.: That crystal monster—he's HUNTING her!: Kralkatorrik beat back Glint's army. Now he's gorging on the Domain of the Lost.There is also an event that references Jormag as male as well.I’ll search and see if I can find any other gender specific references for the dragons.it's not uncommon to refer to androgynous things or things with unknown genders as he. jormag is kinda a special case since the religion that surrounds him is practiced by extremely bigoted peeps. (the sons of svanir) so it makes sense they refer to jormag as he.in the end it doesn't really matter thoI guess it would interesting to me if the DSD was reference as a she, much like Glint and Aurene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 @"Tyson.5160" said:In reference to the final battle with Zhaitan. They are all calling Zhaitan him, which is also interesting.Eh, like derd said, it's pretty standard practice to refer to individuals with unknown gender as masculine. It's a practice born out of "it" being considered rude to use when referring to others. "They" has become a more common practice as of late, and some folks do use feminine pronouns from time to time. Doesn't really mean too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zania.8461 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Schmooples. Because nugs are the true evil overlords. Even beneath the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionophir.6845 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 expansion: Vizier Khilbron, White Mantle, Rotscale, Scepter of Orr.And you'll see in detail how the Vizier Zombified His Enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:@"Tyson.5160" said:In reference to the final battle with Zhaitan. They are all calling Zhaitan him, which is also interesting.Eh, like derd said, it's pretty standard practice to refer to individuals with unknown gender as masculine. It's a practice born out of "it" being considered rude to use when referring to others. "They" has become a more common practice as of late, and some folks do use feminine pronouns from time to time. Doesn't really mean too much.Yeah no, I realize this, I just think it would be nice flavour for the DSD to be referenced as female.Funny thing, I scoured through all the text referencing Mordremoth and it’s always referred to as an it and never give a gender, same with Primordus. I suspect that the Zhaitan reference was just an anomaly during the writing process. Glint and Aurene on the other hand are considered female and Vlast considered male, I assume Anet is just canonically making Kralk a male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumouta.4985 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 sbubbo.the deep sea dargon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylan.2187 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Sinkenpoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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