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Oldgrimm.8521Oldgrimm.8521 Member ✭✭✭

trickery trait line does not reduce the cool down of the new steal

i have not reported, im lazy

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  • We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

  • @Karl McLain.5604 said:
    We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

    While you're here... Is it possible that we can get a comment about shadow trap's current state? Its not used as most thieves find it completely unreliable due to unpredictable behavior and interactions with terrain

  • Turk.5460Turk.5460 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 said:

    @Karl McLain.5604 said:
    We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

    While you're here... Is it possible that we can get a comment about shadow trap's current state? Its not used as most thieves find it completely unreliable due to unpredictable behavior and interactions with terrain

    Has this type of request ever worked? Ever? In the history of the forums?

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  • Xenji.4907Xenji.4907 Member ✭✭✭

    @Turk.5460 said:

    @Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 said:

    @Karl McLain.5604 said:
    We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

    While you're here... Is it possible that we can get a comment about shadow trap's current state? Its not used as most thieves find it completely unreliable due to unpredictable behavior and interactions with terrain

    Has this type of request ever worked? Ever? In the history of the forums?

    Don't blame him for trying. He still have hope...

  • nxsage.6578nxsage.6578 Member ✭✭

    @Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 said:
    While you're here... Is it possible that we can get a comment about shadow trap's current state? Its not used as most thieves find it completely unreliable due to unpredictable behavior and interactions with terrain

    I agree, even ambush is decent but shadow trap doesn't fit anywhere, just one look at number of players that use this skill should make that pretty evident.

  • Bezerker.2379Bezerker.2379 Member ✭✭✭

    @Karl McLain.5604 said:
    We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

    The largest bug is the ability is called swipe and has 600 range.

    In all seriousness, was this tested by anyone who plays competitively? I mean, trickery is used by any pvp or wvw daredevil... :expressionless:

  • Sir Vincent III.1286Sir Vincent III.1286 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @coolstream.3017 said:

    @Bezerker.2379 said:

    @Karl McLain.5604 said:
    We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

    The largest bug is the ability is called swipe and has 600 range.

    In all seriousness, was this tested by anyone who plays competitively? I mean, trickery is used by any pvp or wvw daredevil... :expressionless:

    no one at anet plays thief, clearly.

    Same complaints in every sub-forum. They don't play any of the professions or at least they're not good at it.

    Thief F1 must remain an instacast Steal skill. DE will simply apply DE Mark on target on Steal.
    Malice build-up independently from DE Mark. Mark only speed up the build-up, not be the pre-requisite.
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  • Cronos.6532Cronos.6532 Member ✭✭✭

    @Turk.5460 said:

    @Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 said:

    @Karl McLain.5604 said:
    We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

    While you're here... Is it possible that we can get a comment about shadow trap's current state? Its not used as most thieves find it completely unreliable due to unpredictable behavior and interactions with terrain

    Has this type of request ever worked? Ever? In the history of the forums?

    Yes, for Warclaw changes.

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  • @Karl McLain.5604 said:
    We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

    Apparently, Swindler's Equilibrium is also bugged. Thanks for fixing this soon!

  • Dave.6819Dave.6819 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 24, 2019

    @Cobrakon.3108 said:

    @Karl McLain.5604 said:
    We're currently tracking this issue and will look to fix it as soon as is allowable.

    Karl, Honey.......

    Sweety, you don't need to be afraid of thief. I know you grew up on DnD and like calculus and you think random aoe and passives are the bees knees, but sweety, it's time to let out the assassin. Now I know you hate Counter Strike and Halo, and Streetfighter; you would rather play your RTS games I know sugar bums. Ninjas make you think of the top athletes in highschool and those people didn't even take chemistry!. But its time.... no more cap and +1. Its time to make them a duelist class again Karl.

    Take your hand and open the code window... good good we can do this!! Now increase the parameters that would give thief a fair shot in 1v1s... good. I love you sweety pie.

    And u can start from re-rerolling nerfs atleast.
    1. Backstab cooldown
    2. Lead attacks
    3. Exhaustion on dodge
    4. Dagger power nerf
    5. (let's forget the nerfs that u did in pre-HoT. let vigor nerfs stay if u wish)

    It's like u dont even need to do anything new. Just re-roll the nerfs that you've made over the years and even then thief will still be only +1 and decap bot. But to make it a 1v1 capable class... not only you need to rewind nerfs but also add some buffs. And so far... we're still on an ongoing nerfing downhill. I'm seriously interested.. why do they treat this class so badly. It's like Anets devs were seriously traumatized by thief class in wvw/pvp so they decided to destroy it so they can carry on playin their class. I wonder if someone was playing a power mesmer back in the day and they got seriously outplayed by a thief in 1v1 and the rage made them go to "code window" and start nerfing process.

    #MakeTeefGreatAgain

  • Kolly.9872Kolly.9872 Member ✭✭

    They don't care about thief class. They released a patch with a game breaking bug that I noticed after 3 seconds of playing the new swipe. Every experienced thief could see that something was wrong with swipe cd.. still they released the patch without addressing It, but I think they even didnt test it. Anet you proved once again that you don't know anything about thief. You should listen and trust more the thief community. We play this class, we know what Is needed and what not.

  • when i first heard about the swipe i thought "maybe its not that bad, they are not telling us everything so it might be i.e aoe knockback skill or maybe it could crit" i was hugely disapointed when its just a steal with awful range and nothing else

  • Klypto.1703Klypto.1703 Member ✭✭✭

    Also the marked thing is bugged too it keeps detecting me and revealing me yep thanks and also the shadow trap was an easy way to kill deadeye vs deadeye. Although bad players are the majority now so they got it nerfed and unusable now.

  • Dave.6819Dave.6819 Member ✭✭✭

    @Kolly.9872 said:
    They don't care about thief class. They released a patch with a game breaking bug that I noticed after 3 seconds of playing the new swipe. Every experienced thief could see that something was wrong with swipe cd.. still they released the patch without addressing It, but I think they even didnt test it. Anet you proved once again that you don't know anything about thief. You should listen and trust more the thief community. We play this class, we know what Is needed and what not.

    indeed. imagine how ez it would be to be a balance dev of thief. just listen to oldtimers who play thief and give good feedback. listen -> implement changes -> done. laziest and easiest job ever. but nope.. they don't listen. they just keep making changes that are further bringing this class down to the ground. i mean yea.. u shouldnt listen to new players or players who just wants unnecessary buffs just to become OP. u should listen to oldtimers who are telling you "yup.. we really need buffs and i can give you xyz reasons to back up my claim why we need buffs".

    #MakeTeefGreatAgain

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 24, 2019

    The dev's dont spend alot of time playing most classes so the go off what little they see when they do this the reason for the confusin un thought out changes.due to not knowing each class well they depend on overall feedback from community wich largely dislikes thief do to playstyles arenet pushed for in the past ie MBS etc. Theres actually non thief players in the community praising arenanet for these changes not because they were good but because they wreck the speck and they love it and arenanet cant see that aperantly. I've switched class and mostly all but left game and until enough thief players drop the class to see a large player/class drop nothing good will come to thief from these dev's

  • Dave.6819Dave.6819 Member ✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    The dev's dont spend alot of time playing most classes so the go off what little they see when they do this the reason for the confusin un thought out changes.due to not knowing each class well they depend on overall feedback from community wich largely dislikes thief do to playstyles arenet pushed for in the past ie MBS etc. Theres actually non thief players in the community praising arenanet for these changes not because they were good but because they wreck the speck and they love it and arenanet cant see that aperantly. I've switched class and mostly all but left game and until enough thief players drop the class to see a large player/class drop nothing good will come to thief from these dev's

    that's what i'm trying to push forward for. for all people to stop playing thief. or even delete it. maybe then Anet will realise the things they've done.

    #MakeTeefGreatAgain

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Nice! I bought ESO last week after reading the patch, wasn't just this patch but but the culmination of past patches destroying thief plus maybe burnout since thief has garbage build diversity last few yrs. Been enjoying ESO alot but the pvp players are pretty hardcore compared to me so be a while before I'll attempt to join the pvp scene lol

  • Oldgrimm.8521Oldgrimm.8521 Member ✭✭✭

    as reported by other players

    swindlers equilibrium does not work either

    and the swipe unblockable, is blockable in Spvp

    what a trade off

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Just delete class and rework. I think it's gotten to that point dev's

  • Kolly.9872Kolly.9872 Member ✭✭

    over 24h and still no fix.
    devs do you even test thing before updating your game?

  • Oldgrimm.8521Oldgrimm.8521 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2019

    more details from other players regarding swipe unblockable

    unblockable trait only works if you are traited with Mug

    if not, your steal is blockable

    PS for Fun
    new warriors arc divider is unblockable and cannot be evaded ahahhaahahh 450 range with unbalanced spam F skill

  • Dave.6819Dave.6819 Member ✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    Nice! I bought ESO last week after reading the patch, wasn't just this patch but but the culmination of past patches destroying thief plus maybe burnout since thief has garbage build diversity last few yrs. Been enjoying ESO alot but the pvp players are pretty hardcore compared to me so be a while before I'll attempt to join the pvp scene lol

    i think meta builds for cyrodiil require some kind of dlc btw. or atleast ESO plus. i've tried my 2 year old magsorc build seemed not so OP anymore. somethin changed with meta so google a little. if u've just started ESO oh hell yea it will take time for sure. but that's whats fun bout ESO. it isnt so casual. it gets quite hardcore but when u get there.. it feels rewrding. gl with ESO i love that game but i just cant get over their performance and latency issues in cyrodiil.

    #MakeTeefGreatAgain

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2019

    @Dave.6819 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    Nice! I bought ESO last week after reading the patch, wasn't just this patch but but the culmination of past patches destroying thief plus maybe burnout since thief has garbage build diversity last few yrs. Been enjoying ESO alot but the pvp players are pretty hardcore compared to me so be a while before I'll attempt to join the pvp scene lol

    i think meta builds for cyrodiil require some kind of dlc btw. or atleast ESO plus. i've tried my 2 year old magsorc build seemed not so OP anymore. somethin changed with meta so google a little. if u've just started ESO oh hell yea it will take time for sure. but that's whats fun bout ESO. it isnt so casual. it gets quite hardcore but when u get there.. it feels rewrding. gl with ESO i love that game but i just cant get over their performance and latency issues in cyrodiil.

    One thing that's a breath of fresh air is actually getting decent drops from rando enemies lol where as right now in gw2 feels like I need to fovevents etc to get anything other than garbage lol. I'm definitely gonna pve for a while to gry used to the mechanics etc. I wish thief in gw2 could crouch and hide from enemies and sneak up on them in that manner,robbing houses helps the role play as well lol. Hopefully they'll fix their perfomance issue in cryodill sometime so u can come back and enjoy it.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2019

    How is this not a nerf?

    The mechanic should have changed from steal and we lose stolen abilities, like reapers lost core shroud and gained reaper shroud (different abilities). Deadeyes Mark is a differnt ability (tradeoff).

    There is no way this is anything but a nerf. This "trade" is useless when anyone can 1-2 shot you or peg you to death with ranged before you can do anything. Staff ain't this gap closing maching.

    It needs to be a completely different skill that makes sense with daredevils. We could already be unblockable. It's 4 years too late...and if you had done it 4 years ago, we still would have raised hell.

    Forever, and ever decap and +1 bots. Beep boop booopoty decapped...mission complete.

    THIEF THIEF DECAP! OMG How you DIED? WHY you mid? RES ME!

    Guess it's off to ESO to kitten up some mud crabs with my nightblade.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2019

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:
    How is this not a nerf?

    The mechanic should have changed from steal and we lose stolen abilities, like reapers lost core shroud and gained reaper shroud (different abilities). Deadeyes Mark is a differnt ability (tradeoff).

    There is no way this is anything but a nerf. This "trade" is useless when anyone can 1-2 shot you or peg you to death with ranged before you can do anything. Staff ain't this gap closing maching.

    It needs to be a completely different skill that makes sense with daredevils. We could already be unblockable. It's 4 years too late...and if you had done it 4 years ago, we still would have raised hell.

    Forever, and ever decap and +1 bots. Beep boop booopoty decapped...mission complete.

    THIEF THIEF DECAP! OMG How you DIED? WHY you mid? RES ME!

    Guess it's off to ESO to kitten up some mud crabs with my nightblade.

    Lmao thats exactly what I'm doin

  • Jugglemonkey.8741Jugglemonkey.8741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Oldgrimm.8521 said:

    and the swipe unblockable, is blockable in Spvp

    This just made me laugh. I Iike this game, but stuff like this just makes the balance team look like a clown fiesta.

    Critical Kit, Deadeye.

  • Exitus.3297Exitus.3297 Member ✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:
    How is this not a nerf?

    The mechanic should have changed from steal and we lose stolen abilities, like reapers lost core shroud and gained reaper shroud (different abilities). Deadeyes Mark is a differnt ability (tradeoff).

    There is no way this is anything but a nerf. This "trade" is useless when anyone can 1-2 shot you or peg you to death with ranged before you can do anything. Staff ain't this gap closing maching.

    It needs to be a completely different skill that makes sense with daredevils. We could already be unblockable. It's 4 years too late...and if you had done it 4 years ago, we still would have raised hell.

    Forever, and ever decap and +1 bots. Beep boop booopoty decapped...mission complete.

    THIEF THIEF DECAP! OMG How you DIED? WHY you mid? RES ME!

    Guess it's off to ESO to kitten up some mud crabs with my nightblade.

    Lmao thats exactly what I'm doin

    I would be playing ESO if their Cyrodil servers weren't garbage.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2019

    Well alot of people are telling me that so hopefully they fix it soon so I can see u guys there lol. I'm only level 15 and have had great performance so far so hopefully that doesnt change.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 26, 2019

    Is there a reddit thread? I don't think as many people read the forums here as they do there. More eye traffic...

    From 3 years ago lol
    https://reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3vtoeb/is_daredevil_really_as_bad_as_people_make_it_out/

    the daredevil traitline ....."its still just Acrobatics 2.0, which is bad for an elite"

    and swipe is windows vista or ME

  • Xenji.4907Xenji.4907 Member ✭✭✭

    Bug fixed. Thank you Anet! .... but how about the 600 range. 😬

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