Sampson.2403 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Or lower the recharge time plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson.2403 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 Mirage was overpowered months ago and has since then received good and bad nerfs. It's time to start reverting back some of the bad nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @Sampson.2403 said:Mirage was overpowered months ago and has since then received good and bad nerfs. It's time to start reverting back some of the bad nerfs.OP thinks mirage didn't deseve all of it s nerfs and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I'd rather have Anet give jaunt only 1 charge, give it a longer CD and remove everything that causes enemies to lose their targetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @Fueki.4753 said:I'd rather have Anet give jaunt only 1 charge, give it a longer CD and remove everything that causes enemies to lose their targetting.And remove the damage, confusion, leap, and condition cleanse on it too. WHY CAN'T IT DO ONE THING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeL.8260 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Condi Mirage is almost unviable now anywhere above Gold3 since everyone runs around with bunker specs that cleanse conditions simply by walking (if not just standing) and have tones of sustain and defensive boons to go through. You can still play Power Mirage but we all know that it's mostly a meme, it always was.The removal of Blind on Shatters makes it impossible to get up close to anyone, so you are forced to stick to ranged specs with Scepter and Staff being the only weapon choices that make sense. Getting that one extra Jaunt again as it originally had is not that much to ask for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Make jaunt reveal your self, 1 stack per jaunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @Fat Disgrace.4275 said:Make jaunt reveal your self.Agreed. Its ridiculous that direct damage from jaunt doesn't cause reveal and it does condition damage on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeL.8260 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @mortrialus.3062 said:@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:Make jaunt reveal your self.Agreed. Its ridiculous that direct damage from jaunt doesn't cause reveal and it does condition damage on top of it.Because ~500 (~800 if you play shatter) direct dmg is too much to handle right? Basically one passive tick from Warrior's healing signet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 ^ Mirage main spotted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeL.8260 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @Fat Disgrace.4275 said:^ Mirage main spotted Duh! and unlike most of you I play in high Plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @MikeL.8260 said:@mortrialus.3062 said:@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:Make jaunt reveal your self.Agreed. Its ridiculous that direct damage from jaunt doesn't cause reveal and it does condition damage on top of it.Because ~500 (~800 if you play shatter) direct dmg is too much to handle right? Basically one passive tick from Warrior's healing signet.Wait.Heal Signet heals for 500 per second?Last time i checked it healed for 344 (0.05).Do Warriors run healpower now in PvP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @MikeL.8260 said:@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:^ Mirage main spotted Duh! and unlike most of you I play in high Plat.Bro its the forums, everyone here is high plat or legendary and anyone they speak too is middle silver or below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snellibee.2761 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @MikeL.8260 said:Condi Mirage is almost unviable now anywhere above Gold3 since everyone runs around with bunker specs that cleanse conditions simply by walking (if not just standing) and have tones of sustain and defensive boons to go through. You can still play Power Mirage but we all know that it's mostly a meme, it always was.The removal of Blind on Shatters makes it impossible to get up close to anyone, so you are forced to stick to ranged specs with Scepter and Staff being the only weapon choices that make sense. Getting that one extra Jaunt again as it originally had is not that much to ask for.The problem lies with the bunker meta, not the performance of condi mirage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Jaunt has to be one of the least elite-feeling elites, yet it is universally taken because everything else is even worse. They've nerfed it FOUR times since it was added. With the continued nerfs in other areas of the profession since, I think at the very least the charge count nerf should be reverted.December 11, 2018The number of charges this skill can hold has been split between game modes and reduced from 3 charges to 2 charges in PvP and WvW.July 10, 2018The ammunition recharge time of this skill has now been split and will use a 30-second cooldown in PvP and WvW while maintaining a 20-second cooldown in PvE.March 27, 2018Reduced damage by 50% in PvP and WvW.February 06, 2018Condition duration from this skill has been split.In PvE, the confusion duration has been increased from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.In PvP and WvW, the confusion duration has been reduced from 4 seconds to 2 seconds.November 07, 2017Fixed a bug that prevented this skill from being recognized as an elite skill for the purposes of some rune effects.September 22, 2017Path of Fire release: Jaunt has been added to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Anet usually takes 1 year or more to revert changes, if it does happen at all, with a good disguise as "pvp/pve split". It's been happening since before HoT, where they usually double nerf something or not hitting the right target at all. Leaving players confused as to why with every balance patch.We all know this won't happen. Mostly to save faces, and not admitting overnerf. Or to save faces again :open_mouth: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen.1327 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 charges 20 sec cd was grossly overpowered, unlimited ports out of dangerif you mess up, got your blink and phase retreat on cooldown, got hit by massive cc you still got 2 jaunts to port to safetyi would prefer 1 charge but a stronger effect. Right now it's mostly movement, effect is just leap with weak condi cover@sephiroth.4217 said:@MikeL.8260 said:@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:^ Mirage main spotted Duh! and unlike most of you I play in high Plat.Bro its the forums, everyone here is high plat or legendary and anyone they speak too is middle silver or below.ye and you can just look at people's rating, always confuses me why people would lie about their rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @Snellibee.2761 said:@MikeL.8260 said:Condi Mirage is almost unviable now anywhere above Gold3 since everyone runs around with bunker specs that cleanse conditions simply by walking (if not just standing) and have tones of sustain and defensive boons to go through. You can still play Power Mirage but we all know that it's mostly a meme, it always was.The removal of Blind on Shatters makes it impossible to get up close to anyone, so you are forced to stick to ranged specs with Scepter and Staff being the only weapon choices that make sense. Getting that one extra Jaunt again as it originally had is not that much to ask for.The problem lies with the bunker meta, not the performance of condi mirageConditions counter bunker. Over time conditions overwhelm your ability to cleanse. Condi mirage is perfectly suited for this environment. Mirage players just choose not to succeed because the good players jumped ship to other more fair classes to give themselves a challenge and only bads are left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Make jaunt a utility skill and create a new deception elite for mirage like what they've done for druid. Jaunt isn't an elite skill at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Imo, remove the condi application, and either reverse the condi cleanse nerf, or change back to 3 ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 mirage has too many get out of jail free cards. I wouldn't mind if jaunt was completely un-nerfed, but made into an engage ability instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbelch.9028 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @mortrialus.3062 said:@Snellibee.2761 said:@"MikeL.8260" said:Condi Mirage is almost unviable now anywhere above Gold3 since everyone runs around with bunker specs that cleanse conditions simply by walking (if not just standing) and have tones of sustain and defensive boons to go through. You can still play Power Mirage but we all know that it's mostly a meme, it always was.The removal of Blind on Shatters makes it impossible to get up close to anyone, so you are forced to stick to ranged specs with Scepter and Staff being the only weapon choices that make sense. Getting that one extra Jaunt again as it originally had is not that much to ask for.The problem lies with the bunker meta, not the performance of condi mirageConditions counter bunker. Over time conditions overwhelm your ability to cleanse. Condi mirage is perfectly suited for this environment. Mirage players just choose not to succeed because the good players jumped ship to other more fair classes to give themselves a challenge and only bads are left. Somebody broke mortrialus. He's making less sense than he was before he was on the "re-buff condi mirage so I can get back into Plat" days. I like your new avatar though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solori.6025 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:mirage has too many get out of jail free cards. I wouldn't mind if jaunt was completely un-nerfed, but made into an engage ability instead. Technically. It's got no more than others, and vs some classes less.Like. We have had this convo before and every time someone mentions defense mirage "had" it's listing 4 utility skills it couldn't take, 4 weapon skills it wouldn't use, 3 traits in nonsense places and then making a rant video crying about it all like a lunatic and still not making sense.Mirage had one thing new defensivelyDetarget. ( I would say mirage cloak but lol that got nerfed )Which could also be achieved by taking extra stealth. Something base mes and chrono could do.And since the teeth from mirage has been all but removed. At least some of it's skin could be given back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solori.6025 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 @MikeL.8260 said:@mortrialus.3062 said:@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:Make jaunt reveal your self.Agreed. Its ridiculous that direct damage from jaunt doesn't cause reveal and it does condition damage on top of it.Because ~500 (~800 if you play shatter) direct dmg is too much to handle right? Basically one passive tick from Warrior's healing signet......they are being sarcastic......if you didnt catch it........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Necro has the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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