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Warning, Wiki spoiler!!!

Wow, thank you gw2 wiki for spoiling the previous episode of which I haven’t played yet thanks to being busy irl all the time. Why would you do this!?

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  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    So if I understand correctly, you willingly went to a gw2 wiki, a place with detailed information regarding the game and its story, found information on the story in a wiki that's designed to have... information, and you decided to come complain to Arena net for a wiki that they have no control over? THE AUDACITY

    I know it. How dare me.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Where is this spoiler? If it's on a page related to the new episode then it probably should be changed, or at least tagged to warn that it has a spoiler.

    "Hard knocks, bad luck, been knocked down,
    You got back up, rise up, shine on, keep on fighting, the war is almost done...But then I hear you're gone.
    I feel, when the lights go down, you are still here, all you hold dear remains.
    Your star never fades."

  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    Where is this spoiler? If it's on a page related to the new episode then it probably should be changed, or at least tagged to warn that it has a spoiler.

    It’s on the update notes, and yes I agree. First sentence is the biggest and I’ve been avoiding talk or forum info about the last episode. I don’t recall there being bad spoilers like that on update notes.

    I more or less made this thread as a warning to others who might be in the same boat as me but haven’t ventured to the wiki yet.

  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭

    Lol, just realized the same spoilers are on this very forum. Bad Anet, bad!!!

  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭

    @Stephane Lo Presti.7258 said:
    We're sorry that you ended up seeing spoilers for the previous episode. Note that the content of the wiki is created by the community, but beyond that it's now been several months since the last episode released and we tend to keep things spoiler-free for a week or two (with the exception of our Guild Chat livestream that has a heavy Spoiler Warning at the start).

    Regardless, I think the intro to the updates note is in bad taste. I appreciate the reply. You may have this thread closed if you want.

  • VDAC.2137VDAC.2137 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    Where is this spoiler? If it's on a page related to the new episode then it probably should be changed, or at least tagged to warn that it has a spoiler.

    It’s on the update notes, and yes I agree. First sentence is the biggest and I’ve been avoiding talk or forum info about the last episode. I don’t recall there being bad spoilers like that on update notes.

    I more or less made this thread as a warning to others who might be in the same boat as me but haven’t ventured to the wiki yet.

    Yeah, I was surprised and disappointed to see those on the Wiki for today’s patch notes! I can’t be too upset since as it’s my own problem that I’m still quite a bit behind, but I didn’t expect to have it spelled out for me there! And I know it’s not Arenanet’s fault what is in the Wiki but hopefully posting this thread here will prevent others from making our same mistake.

  • VDAC.2137VDAC.2137 Member ✭✭✭

    I’m not upset at anyone, just alerting others not to read the Wiki (or even the patch notes, evidently) if they’re behind on the story. What’s wrong with that? :confused:

  • Majic.4801Majic.4801 Member ✭✭✭

    @VDAC.2137 said:
    I’m not upset at anyone, just alerting others not to read the Wiki (or even the patch notes, evidently) if they’re behind on the story. What’s wrong with that? :confused:

    Everything, obviously. ;)

    "Not the same, real and true. True you feel inside. Always follow what is true." -- Sentry-skritt Bordekka
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  • Lol after like 3 months its no longer spoiling it's all on you. If people cared so much they would have finished it by then, no idea why anet even apologised

  • Greener.6204Greener.6204 Member ✭✭✭

    I have attempted to temporarily rectify the issue. People who have not yet played through the previous chapter (like myself), deserve the chance to skim over the intro paragraph while looking for information that they are interested in.

  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    Being upset at Arena net, or really anyone else for that matter, is incredibly entitled. There is only one person and one person alone to blame that you didn't play the previous episode in the months you had to play it.

    Eh I’m not really upset, lol, but thank you for your concern. I can see where you might’ve thought I was been I was angry, but that’s the net for you. Tone of voice is lost. The intention of the thread was to warn people of the notes and to let Anet know the notes were spoilerific.

    @all cheats.3186 said:
    Lol after like 3 months its no longer spoiling it's all on you. If people cared so much they would have finished it by then, no idea why anet even apologised

    I dunno, maybe cause spoiling the story that you’re selling isn’t good business practice? That’s like a book store selling a book but telling you what happens in it before you buy it.

  • aspirine.6852aspirine.6852 Member ✭✭✭

    I haven't played the previous living story either, so I expected this one to be major spoiler for me. Well perhaps I can do it now :)

  • VDAC.2137VDAC.2137 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    Being upset at Arena net, or really anyone else for that matter, is incredibly entitled. There is only one person and one person alone to blame that you didn't play the previous episode in the months you had to play it.

    Eh I’m not really upset, lol, but thank you for your concern. I can see where you might’ve thought I was been I was angry, but that’s the net for you. Tone of voice is lost. The intention of the thread was to warn people of the notes and to let Anet know the notes were spoilerific.

    Exactly! I don’t know what everyone else is so upset about! :confused: Some people are new to the game, come back after a long hiatus, etc., and try to avoid spoiling the story for themselves. Of course we don’t expect everyone else to never say anything about it, but I’ve avoided reading about LWS4 as I’ve been working to get caught up. I did not expect the patch notes to contain story information; if they have before it was something I missed or don’t recall. It would be nice if they hadn’t but the purpose of this thread is primarily to let others know so they can avoid reading them if they wish.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    Being upset at Arena net, or really anyone else for that matter, is incredibly entitled. There is only one person and one person alone to blame that you didn't play the previous episode in the months you had to play it.

    Eh I’m not really upset, lol, but thank you for your concern. I can see where you might’ve thought I was been I was angry, but that’s the net for you. Tone of voice is lost. The intention of the thread was to warn people of the notes and to let Anet know the notes were spoilerific.

    @all cheats.3186 said:
    Lol after like 3 months its no longer spoiling it's all on you. If people cared so much they would have finished it by then, no idea why anet even apologised

    I dunno, maybe cause spoiling the story that you’re selling isn’t good business practice? That’s like a book store selling a book but telling you what happens in it before you buy it.

    So.. the trailers of every harry potter movie had to avoid ever mentioning the return of voldemort? I mean, spoiling their own story shouldn't be a good business practice, right?

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    Being upset at Arena net, or really anyone else for that matter, is incredibly entitled. There is only one person and one person alone to blame that you didn't play the previous episode in the months you had to play it.

    Eh I’m not really upset, lol, but thank you for your concern. I can see where you might’ve thought I was been I was angry, but that’s the net for you. Tone of voice is lost. The intention of the thread was to warn people of the notes and to let Anet know the notes were spoilerific.

    @all cheats.3186 said:
    Lol after like 3 months its no longer spoiling it's all on you. If people cared so much they would have finished it by then, no idea why anet even apologised

    I dunno, maybe cause spoiling the story that you’re selling isn’t good business practice? That’s like a book store selling a book but telling you what happens in it before you buy it.

    So.. the trailers of every harry potter movie had to avoid ever mentioning the return of voldemort? I mean, spoiling their own story shouldn't be a good business practice, right?

    Not quite the same thing but good effort.

  • @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:
    I dunno, maybe cause spoiling the story that you’re selling isn’t good business practice? That’s like a book store selling a book but telling you what happens in it before you buy it.

    Actually, no. It's like a book store selling a book that mentions on its cover description events that happened in the previous book. Which, btw, they do.

  • ChronoPinoyX.7923ChronoPinoyX.7923 Member ✭✭✭

    Or you know... coulda just not visited the wiki...

  • Greener.6204Greener.6204 Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2019

    @ChronoPinoyX.7923 said:
    Or you know... coulda just not visited the wiki...

    Patch notes contain information for new players, veteran players, and everyone in between. Visiting the wiki after a patch is habitual for many.

    On the wiki, players can take steps to help out other players, as one did <Gah!! Link broke template, sorry to those who clicked on it>.

  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2019

    If that's the case, make sure to avoid reading the email newsletter sent by ArenaNet, as well. Though, I doubt that many come to the forums to find out if they should avoid reading official ArenaNet emails.

    Oh, and avoid the 'Releases' page, as well.

  • ChronoPinoyX.7923ChronoPinoyX.7923 Member ✭✭✭

    @Greener.6204 said:

    @ChronoPinoyX.7923 said:
    Or you know... coulda just not visited the wiki...

    Patch notes contain information for new players, veteran players, and everyone in between. Visiting the wiki after a patch is habitual for many.

    On the wiki, players can take steps to help out other players, as one did <Gah!! Link broke template, sorry to those who clicked on it>.

    So what's your point exactly? I get that it's a habit but at the same time the wiki functions as it should. It doesn't cater to individuals, it's there for everyone to use, including those who want to read the story outside of the game. So again, OP coulda just not visited the wiki.

  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Greener.6204 Just visited the Wiki. The spoiler tag is not covering the controversial statements in the patch notes.
    It doesn't even work. So, I guess more than the template? is broken.

  • Greener.6204Greener.6204 Member ✭✭✭

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    @Greener.6204 Just visited the Wiki. The spoiler tag is not covering the controversial statements in the patch notes.
    It doesn't even work. So, I guess more than the template? is broken.

    Okay, I was able to replicate the bug. It's a problem we've not been able to fix before. The majority of the time the spoiler tag should be working. If you see it not working, you you send me a PM telling me the browser you're using, and whether or not you see the links to "Guildwars2.com", "Forums", and "Support" at the top? Thanks.

  • Greener.6204Greener.6204 Member ✭✭✭

    @ChronoPinoyX.7923 said:

    @Greener.6204 said:

    @ChronoPinoyX.7923 said:
    Or you know... coulda just not visited the wiki...

    Patch notes contain information for new players, veteran players, and everyone in between. Visiting the wiki after a patch is habitual for many.

    On the wiki, players can take steps to help out other players, as one did <Gah!! Link broke template, sorry to those who clicked on it>.

    So what's your point exactly? I get that it's a habit but at the same time the wiki functions as it should. It doesn't cater to individuals, it's there for everyone to use, including those who want to read the story outside of the game. So again, OP coulda just not visited the wiki.

    By having the situation highlighted, we can work together as a community to find a solution that helps out everyone. Having people avoid the wiki is not a good solution.

  • VDAC.2137VDAC.2137 Member ✭✭✭

    @Greener.6204 said:

    @ChronoPinoyX.7923 said:

    @Greener.6204 said:

    @ChronoPinoyX.7923 said:
    Or you know... coulda just not visited the wiki...

    Patch notes contain information for new players, veteran players, and everyone in between. Visiting the wiki after a patch is habitual for many.

    On the wiki, players can take steps to help out other players, as one did <Gah!! Link broke template, sorry to those who clicked on it>.

    So what's your point exactly? I get that it's a habit but at the same time the wiki functions as it should. It doesn't cater to individuals, it's there for everyone to use, including those who want to read the story outside of the game. So again, OP coulda just not visited the wiki.

    By having the situation highlighted, we can work together as a community to find a solution that helps out everyone. Having people avoid the wiki is not a good solution.

    I very much appreciate your positive and helpful approach! I visit the Wiki often and spoilers have always been covered up before with some warning so you could decide whether or not you wanted to see them. I am glad to know that it is meant to continue to be that way. :+1:

  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No problem, it's working now. Was, and is, Firefox.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    Being upset at Arena net, or really anyone else for that matter, is incredibly entitled. There is only one person and one person alone to blame that you didn't play the previous episode in the months you had to play it.

    Eh I’m not really upset, lol, but thank you for your concern. I can see where you might’ve thought I was been I was angry, but that’s the net for you. Tone of voice is lost. The intention of the thread was to warn people of the notes and to let Anet know the notes were spoilerific.

    @all cheats.3186 said:
    Lol after like 3 months its no longer spoiling it's all on you. If people cared so much they would have finished it by then, no idea why anet even apologised

    I dunno, maybe cause spoiling the story that you’re selling isn’t good business practice? That’s like a book store selling a book but telling you what happens in it before you buy it.

    So.. the trailers of every harry potter movie had to avoid ever mentioning the return of voldemort? I mean, spoiling their own story shouldn't be a good business practice, right?

    Not quite the same thing but good effort.

    How is it different?
    The spoiler in question is something that happened in the previous "movie".
    They're just summarizing the previous ending.

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • Terminal.5093Terminal.5093 Member ✭✭
    edited May 15, 2019

    @Stephane Lo Presti.7258 said:
    We're sorry that you ended up seeing spoilers for the previous episode. Note that the content of the wiki is created by the community, but beyond that it's now been several months since the last episode released and we tend to keep things spoiler-free for a week or two (with the exception of our Guild Chat livestream that has a heavy Spoiler Warning at the start).

    If anet cared about spoilers, then they wouldn't force people to skip ahead and immediately do the chapter just so they can start earning spirit shards again, maxed mastery doesn't work now with the skyscale added to the list.

    I didn't see the wiki, but it's already been spoiled because I have no choice but to jump ahead and rush through it so I can get spirit shards again.

    There are lots of new players, and you had all these promotions for returning players to catch up, not everyone has gone through the story, why force them to spoil the ending for either a mount or to get their spirit shards again?

  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭

    @Greener.6204 said:

    @ChronoPinoyX.7923 said:
    Or you know... coulda just not visited the wiki...

    Patch notes contain information for new players, veteran players, and everyone in between. Visiting the wiki after a patch is habitual for many.

    On the wiki, players can take steps to help out other players, as one did <Gah!! Link broke template, sorry to those who clicked on it>.

    Thank you for looking into doing that. Very helpful!

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Lonewolf Kai.3682 said:

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    Being upset at Arena net, or really anyone else for that matter, is incredibly entitled. There is only one person and one person alone to blame that you didn't play the previous episode in the months you had to play it.

    Eh I’m not really upset, lol, but thank you for your concern. I can see where you might’ve thought I was been I was angry, but that’s the net for you. Tone of voice is lost. The intention of the thread was to warn people of the notes and to let Anet know the notes were spoilerific.

    @all cheats.3186 said:
    Lol after like 3 months its no longer spoiling it's all on you. If people cared so much they would have finished it by then, no idea why anet even apologised

    I dunno, maybe cause spoiling the story that you’re selling isn’t good business practice? That’s like a book store selling a book but telling you what happens in it before you buy it.

    So.. the trailers of every harry potter movie had to avoid ever mentioning the return of voldemort? I mean, spoiling their own story shouldn't be a good business practice, right?

    Not quite the same thing but good effort.

    How is it different?
    The spoiler in question is something that happened in the previous "movie".
    They're just summarizing the previous ending.

    That wasn’t really the point of my example and I won’t go down that path with you. Regardless, movie trailers don’t contain important information and changes to the class I play or game mechanics that have nothing to do with story.

  • HyperLooser.2698HyperLooser.2698 Member ✭✭✭

    Can't blame wikipedians for Anets own spoiler: https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/76298/game-update-notes-may-14-2019

    Like 1st sentence there

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    So if I understand correctly, you willingly went to a gw2 wiki, a place with detailed information regarding the game and its story, found information on the story in a wiki that's designed to have... information, and you decided to come complain to Arena net for a wiki that they have no control over? THE AUDACITY

    Freedom of speech

  • sevenDEADLY.5281sevenDEADLY.5281 Member ✭✭✭

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    So if I understand correctly, you willingly went to a gw2 wiki, a place with detailed information regarding the game and its story, found information on the story in a wiki that's designed to have... information, and you decided to come complain to Arena net for a wiki that they have no control over? THE AUDACITY

    Freedom of speech

    That's not how that works, that's not how any of that works at all...

  • Eloc Freidon.5692Eloc Freidon.5692 Member ✭✭✭✭

    That's the downside to being behind. If you want information on the content you are up to and you have a bookmark for the main wiki page, you will be spoiled. Best to just google "GW2" and the thing you want to look up. The results always have the wiki on it. Or you can use the /wiki command in game.

  • KidRoleplay.3615KidRoleplay.3615 Member ✭✭✭

    I unfortunately have the opposite problem. Spoilers mean nothing to me. I find more value in how something is presented instead, and when I like what I see, I tend to like to talk about it. Just, people prefer me not to for a usually unspecified amount of time.

    Must... share... experience!

  • VDAC.2137VDAC.2137 Member ✭✭✭

    @Eloc Freidon.5692 said:
    That's the downside to being behind. If you want information on the content you are up to and you have a bookmark for the main wiki page, you will be spoiled. Best to just google "GW2" and the thing you want to look up. The results always have the wiki on it. Or you can use the /wiki command in game.

    That’s what I did, but the spoiler tag didn’t hide the content as it normally does in the Wiki. I believe it’s been fixed. :+1:

    Right now I’m glad to be behind and plan to get the Skyscale once it’s known how long it will take and there’s a guide to going through the process efficiently. ;)

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I am glad that the issue is fixed.

    But if you choose to be months behind in experiencing a shared live story experience, as I am actually, then the onus is not on others to preserve secrecy of plot etc.

    Still, sorry you took the hit OP.

  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ashen.2907 said:
    I am glad that the issue is fixed.

    But if you choose to be months behind in experiencing a shared live story experience, as I am actually, then the onus is not on others to preserve secrecy of plot etc.

    Still, sorry you took the hit OP.

    Yea it kinda sucks, but I’m ok with it considering. However, I would argue that because the update notes contain various fixes, important changes and notes unrelated to story, that the introduction was a bit done in poor taste. Normally I can tell if something is going to spoil the story and I can skip right over it, but in this note’s case, it was hard to miss. Still I should have known better.

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