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KRALKATORRIK'S REAL SIZE


Vyko.6953

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@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

@Amanda Whitemoon.6173 said:well, the dragons grow when they eat magic right, and primordus in gw1 was basicly at his end of the hibernation cicle, out of magic, so makes sence he is smaller.

That's just a player theory to explain the gross change in Primordus' appearance, using the fact that dragon minions grow when consuming more magic as a basis.

It is but one thata)at least makes senseb)doesn’t somehow involve Lyssa, Anise or both ?

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BIG UPDATE!After hours of playing with the model and playing actual game, I realised that my model is maybe too big. It was easy to see when I was standing on the tail and when I imported model of human and placed it on the same place. So I started to search for models of actual laying Kralk on the map. After some hours, I found it. It is acutally composed from 17 models (tail, head, neck, hand, leg, etc..).

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fB5GXmG8a-41xP4XN_JNIPYKdQ4L0i8e

Now I could compare it:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PCmfFcywbKbJUvBzxVql2Va6c0f2h0uo

A = original datamined model from actual story. Its used in flight battle with Aurene.B = actual Kralkatorrik laying on the map we can walk on.C = my resized A model according to the size of head and neck we physically fought in The auditoriumIts obvious Anet is constantly changing his size (the first head in PoF was the largest scale, larger than in The auditorium). But the real actual Kralkatorrik is the size B, because its the physically closest size to us we can walk on. So I just resized my model C to the size of B very accurately and closely by just the head, because the whole body is too deformed:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iBrbfTJ_kACIhVAjSk7mR194zyb-OP_4

Then we can compare these two and it fits nicely:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OS3skjtvmeNl2MCw1haki37tPR5T7_zc

So this is it. The real size. Wingspan is 2,2 km, he is 1,66 km long and 521 m tall.He is taller than the wingspan of Zhaitan.

Quick traditional comparison with other dragons:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1A4lP5UUxpeMLq24S0cif53n8lUH9Irxr

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LNB0FsKlfg2IUfcJL9D58r9tjAFxdwdg

I like how it fits with old Zhaitan model size. Its very shame that they remodelled Zhaitan and he is so small compated to the original and Kralk. Unfortunately the shatterer on the second render is missing, but I still need to play with textures a bit (because I found more detailed Kralks's tail so I replaced the original not so good detailed tail, but it has different lighting textures so I need to tune them to the right appearance) Soon I will post better renders with comparison with just elder dragons and with The Shatterer for use on the wiki. I also plan to rig the model to animate it for some even better renders and pozes, but that will take many many hours to do and I also want to play the game now :lol:

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@Vyko.6953 said:-snip-

That's very interesting.

I find it curious they included the left wing to Kralk's map model, since it's severed and the model is, as you say, composed of 17 models. One would think they'd ignore the left wing (or was that just you putting it back on with super glue? :P).

@Vyko.6953 said:So this is it. The real size. Wingspan is 2,2 km, he is 1,66 km long and 521 m tall.He is taller than the wingspan of Zhaitan.

He's also almost twice as tall as Edge of Destiny labeled him, which is nice. Probably wouldn't be so Elder Dragon-feeling if it was 1,000 ft tall in the end.

@Vyko.6953 said:Soon I will post better renders with comparison with just elder dragons and with The Shatterer for use on the wiki.

While you're at it, if you do another "side shot comparison", I'd remove the old Zhaitan's wing, for sake of visibility. Took me a second to figure out why it looked so off, to realize the wing and horn were meshing in and messing with my eyes.

And I think it'd be cool if we could get a comparison of all of Kralk's model, similar to your second linked image but including the PoF head.

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It was me, the models were just parts which i had to stick together. The severed wing was only wrong rotated, other fitted easily. I think that would need a hyper-ultra-mega glue to stick that much tonnes of stone xD

Quickly made that:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cGw2npiX5aCLFx6NdD2u11gViUiwf33Ihttps://drive.google.com/open?id=1dsgHynEIfeskGt_NYvVtKxBtQKudZcZGhttps://drive.google.com/open?id=1Av29vx8qpDSEGv2wLvnoBaDCccZwB1KSThe scale went hugely down. I bet they will scale down that extreme Primordus too. Thats why i wont add it in final renders because its scale is not probably final, and they can change it too.

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@"Vyko.6953" said:It was me, the models were just parts which i had to stick together. The severed wing was only wrong rotated, other fitted easily. I think that would need a hyper-ultra-mega glue to stick that much tonnes of stone xD

Quickly made that:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cGw2npiX5aCLFx6NdD2u11gViUiwf33Ihttps://drive.google.com/open?id=1dsgHynEIfeskGt_NYvVtKxBtQKudZcZGhttps://drive.google.com/open?id=1Av29vx8qpDSEGv2wLvnoBaDCccZwB1KSThe scale went hugely down. I bet they will scale down that extreme Primordus too. Thats why i wont add it in final renders because its scale is not probably final, and they can change it too.

Just for fun/curiosity, how big would Kralk be if he was scaled to the original path of fire ending head, that was partially non-solid?

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Necrothreading time!

@"Slowpokeking.8720" said:Anyone can use Jormag's tooth to measure the possible size?

So while toying around with the Elder Dragon models in 3ds Max, I decided to grab Jormag's tooth and put it up against Kralkatorrik's models. Turns out that it's an almost exact size match to All or Nothing kralk head's teeth. Then I upscaled the Claw of Jormag statue from Bitterfrost to roughly match the size, since it's a thin head shape.

Tooth to All or Nothing Kralk: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1En1T0BEhbrA1xf4kLGFy4LIRCHw-zaLa/view

Tooth to upscaled Claw: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EdxyDt2g-sfAsoEAWce5qt-cvZkRUjJ2/view

Upscaled Claw to All or Nothing Kralk: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ttv9TGC0DPNcbaBNd0XHB5u3_khyz1AI/view

No textures that aren't easily obtained for the above images but it gives a sense of size. Depending on Jormag's proportions, he'd be about as large as Vyko's Kralk from his comparison before finding Dragonfall's Kralk is smaller.

Unless Jormag's seriously bucktoothed or something.

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