Silverpoopoo.1476 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I recently came back to the game after a long absence. Tonight every WvW map had a queue of ~20 so I decided to check out EOTM.And it was dead. I mean totally, completely, not a single active friendly player on the map dead.What is the purpose of having EOTM available if it never gets used, even during peak times when there is a 30 minute queue for the other WvW maps?Devs should improve EOTM rewards so that it's active again like it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Eotm's purpose was to have a temporary area to play it if all 4 maps were already full, which happened a lot back in the day when Eotm was first introduced. Unfortunately the population has gone down over the years and the only time you may even need eotm is on reset night, usually queues last maybe 2 hours and then it dies off for the week, but even then people would rather just sit semi afk waiting on their queue.Also, thought this was kinda funny, at reset, in tier 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 It's because of wvw reset. It's pretty much the only day when 4 map queues are a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offair.2563 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 @"XenesisII.1540" said:Eotm's purpose was to have a temporary area to play it if all 4 maps were already full, which happened a lot back in the day when Eotm was first introduced. Unfortunately the population has gone down over the years and the only time you may even need eotm is on reset night, usually queues last maybe 2 hours and then it dies off for the week, but even then people would rather just sit semi afk waiting on their queue.Also, thought this was kinda funny, at reset, in tier 1.No people stopped playing there as exp gain got stopped there, aswell no pip gain there so no rewards> no players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gop.8713 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Given anet's desire to use existing content for their 'bonus event' initiative I think eotm actually is ripe for an event one of these weeks. But they already did no downstate for wvw so idk how long it would be before they returned to wvw for another weekly event . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Getting EOTM removed from game and salavage the map for something else would be an improvement.... EOTM can have some interesting mechanics but the way Anet dev's achieved those mechanics feel cheap coded, like the scorpion transmogs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 rewards would be a simple way to get ppl interested, especially players that don't usually wvw. I think a good improvement would be to have uncontestable waypoints in all keeps and towers. I don't like how long it takes to find fights, especially when the other zerg is trying to avoid you, which is easy in this map. scoring doesn't matter here, the only reason for it to exist is for fights, so anything that promotes that should at least get a tryout. maybe instead of waypoints, jump pads that shoot you really far could get a test. idk something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 @Offair.2563 said:No people stopped playing there as exp gain got stopped there, aswell no pip gain there so no rewards> no players.Heh I know that, I was pointing out what eotm's actual purpose was, not what everyone used it for.And no it's shouldn't be made into a reward merry go round again.You want wvw rewards, earn it in actual wvw maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelJaeger.2403 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Either it's just a bug, or they sneaked some updates in we don't know about, but you gain Pips in EOTM.Last week i was bored and decided to take a break from being blobbed 24/7 so i went a bit roaming there and noticed:you gain pipsif you flip a Flag your Participation increases.you can gain Outnumbered Pips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylden Ar.3724 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Pics or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malavian.4695 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 If they take the new mount, the Wyvern and make it usable in EotM it might bring some life back to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreeak.1023 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 how to revive EOTM? make it the 4th WvW map. Like EBG .... problem solved. saidly Anet wont do nothing about EoTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 If EotM was revised do only give out rewards if played like the other WvW maps, how many of the EotM supporters would be behind that? If so, why not just play on the other WvW maps? If not, then essentially you want a PvE map to earn WvW rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nvidius.3512 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 @phreeak.1023 said:how to revive EOTM? make it the 4th WvW map. Like EBG .... problem solved. saidly Anet wont do nothing about EoTMI agree. Perhaps replacing one of the alpine borderlands with EOTM would make things interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider.5792 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 @Nvidius.3512 said:@phreeak.1023 said:how to revive EOTM? make it the 4th WvW map. Like EBG .... problem solved. saidly Anet wont do nothing about EoTMI agree. Perhaps replacing one of the alpine borderlands with EOTM would make things interesting.Map would need alot of balance changes before that could happen. Currently some sides are extremly more powerful the the others. Red has scorps, wurm tunnels/portals and turrets (OP side)Green has cannon(kind of useless), some detection turrets (useful) and... invul sparks ??Blue has damage reduction buff, slower enemies in keep and.... more guards ??.All of these must first be removed, so all sides are the same. Guards should all be turned to just default ones, no grawl/kodan/ogres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eudaimonia.8695 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 They should recycle it somehow. It served its purpose back in the day and now it's just empty all the time. Perhaps they don't mind that the map is in the state it is? Only ANet knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 this is nice that we have chill map for chill pve like players to get some www track for gift-legendary wep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinkTinkPOOF.9201 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Remove mounts from WvW, add mounts etc to EoTM, put rewards back as they were before nerfs, done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Nah, people want eotm to become the pve karmafest it was, but this time with added pips, wvw exclusive skins, and pve power levelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathPanel.8362 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 A solution could be to make a map currency unique to EotM similar to living world currencies that get rewarded in an EotM only reward track and enable full pips. This map currency can then be used to purchase skins and items specific to EotM from a special vendor from EotM. This will encourage players to play in EotM but not take away from wvw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathPanel.8362 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 To clarify this means EotM will have only its own reward track and none of the wvw ones so it will not take away people who want wvw track rewards from wvw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 @DeathPanel.8362 said:To clarify this means EotM will have only its own reward track and none of the wvw ones so it will not take away people who want wvw track rewards from wvw.It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathPanel.8362 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 @RedShark.9548 said:It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymoreThat logic doesn't follow. If a wvw player don't need the rewards anymore and plays only for the sake of playing wvw then they would have no reason to play EOTM because EOTM is very different from wvw. And if that player plays EOTM for the new rewards then it stands to reason the same player would play any other new content that comes out for the new rewards and be away from wvw because of it. Either way my idea wouldn't change the way this player in your example behaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Delete eotm from game seams a decent work arround.Useless and abandoned map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 @DeathPanel.8362 said:@RedShark.9548 said:It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymoreThat logic doesn't follow. If a wvw player don't need the rewards anymore and plays only for the sake of playing wvw then they would have no reason to play EOTM because EOTM is very different from wvw. And if that player plays EOTM for the new rewards then it stands to reason the same player would play any other new content that comes out for the new rewards and be away from wvw because of it. Either way my idea wouldn't change the way this player in your example behaves.Honestly, its not THAT different if you dont follow everybody elses karmatrain, or just look for fights etc. There are enough similarities to draw wvw player to that for the rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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