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Aurora + Vision + Coalescence: One More Stack on the Same Aura

We can see Coalescence crafted then demonstrated here, both alone and with the other trinkets: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/437561307?t=08h31m50s

Honestly I don't think anything could've been more disappointing. People complain about or praise legendaries when they come out all the time, and every one has people that have really enjoyed it. These trinkets are different in that they can't appeal to different people. They have exactly the same effects, and just build on the same aura as you get more of them. Every other legendary in the game is fiercely unique. Whether people like it or not, it's different. There's no options here. There's just these bubbles that you can slightly change the color and texture of with more trinkets. Even if we're going to have this aura with all of them combined, they could at least have different parts of its effects with each individual piece (i.e. the black orb with Coalescence, the original aura with Aurora, and some purple bubbles with Vision). Legendaries are legendary because there's nothing else like them. These feel like we should be getting the three existing trinkets then the next ring and throw all of them into the mystic forge to create the actual legendary; they're not legendary in their own right.

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  • Hesacon.8735Hesacon.8735 Member ✭✭✭✭

    At some point all high end characters would look like a fireworks show if they didn't find some way to tame the trinkets.

  • phs.6089phs.6089 Member ✭✭✭✭

    wow, that bloby blobs now with link to orbs :/

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  • Nemo.8759Nemo.8759 Member ✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:
    Would you rather they all have unique effects that stack and cause more of a mess? This is the only way they could have done it.

    They could have their unique effects and the same combination effects like now.
    Anet just dont want make unique effects for Vision and Coalescence.
    Disappointing.

  • Zex Anthon.8673Zex Anthon.8673 Member ✭✭✭

    Would have been cool if each trinket had unique effects, but still combined to form new effects. Then when you have all all 5 trinkets you can pick and choose which one you want out of the 9 effects.

  • Exactly. Them combining to form new effects instead of just visual clutter is fine. It's them all being the same thing that's really disappointing.

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Be thankful you can do raids to get the ring in the first place. There is no room in my heart to go into any elitist dungeon for the effect I witnessed yesterday. To be fair wasn't overly keen , so a good thing but still.

  • Roquen.5406Roquen.5406 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dami.5046 said:
    Be thankful you can do raids to get the ring in the first place. There is no room in my heart to go into any elitist dungeon for the effect I witnessed yesterday. To be fair wasn't overly keen , so a good thing but still.

    There are so many casual groups and training runs that people have all the time. As long as you read up and come prepared (a good build and proper gear) you can hop in for even a single boss and leave when you want. You don't have to commit to every boss every week. You can do it at your own pace. I think people overstate the difficulty/elitism that goes on.

    Yes, there are elitists and yes there are toxic people but often those are the worst groups to be in and you wouldn't want to be there anyways - they tend to fail a lot. But these people exist in every game mode and in fact every game... /shrug

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 12, 2019

    @Nemo.8759 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:
    Would you rather they all have unique effects that stack and cause more of a mess? This is the only way they could have done it.

    They could have their unique effects and the same combination effects like now.
    Anet just dont want make unique effects for Vision and Coalescence.
    Disappointing.

    Because they know that people want to stack them instead of using one for their visual effect only. Imagine they made a cool effect but because you are the intended audience of players that get everything you won't ever get to see that.

    What's cool is that we get to see the thing evolve and I want to find out what it turns into in a couple of years with a full set of trinkets. Wouldn't be too late to add special effects to other trinkets either, in ways that would also add to each other like different glows.

    Bite me.

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Roquen.5406 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    Be thankful you can do raids to get the ring in the first place. There is no room in my heart to go into any elitist dungeon for the effect I witnessed yesterday. To be fair wasn't overly keen , so a good thing but still.

    There are so many casual groups and training runs that people have all the time. As long as you read up and come prepared (a good build and proper gear) you can hop in for even a single boss and leave when you want. You don't have to commit to every boss every week. You can do it at your own pace. I think people overstate the difficulty/elitism that goes on.

    Yes, there are elitists and yes there are toxic people but often those are the worst groups to be in and you wouldn't want to be there anyways - they tend to fail a lot. But these people exist in every game mode and in fact every game... /shrug

    Thanks but it's till not my cup of tea - and I don't have the hours to put in to git gud. I can survive farming bitter frost a bit longer :P

  • Roquen.5406Roquen.5406 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dami.5046 said:

    @Roquen.5406 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    Be thankful you can do raids to get the ring in the first place. There is no room in my heart to go into any elitist dungeon for the effect I witnessed yesterday. To be fair wasn't overly keen , so a good thing but still.

    There are so many casual groups and training runs that people have all the time. As long as you read up and come prepared (a good build and proper gear) you can hop in for even a single boss and leave when you want. You don't have to commit to every boss every week. You can do it at your own pace. I think people overstate the difficulty/elitism that goes on.

    Yes, there are elitists and yes there are toxic people but often those are the worst groups to be in and you wouldn't want to be there anyways - they tend to fail a lot. But these people exist in every game mode and in fact every game... /shrug

    Thanks but it's till not my cup of tea - and I don't have the hours to put in to git gud. I can survive farming bitter frost a bit longer :P

    No worries, just thought I'd share. If you are ever willing to try there are many groups out there that will help you learn. And you don't always need to commit hours, I've seen people hop in for 30 min to an hour or even just a single boss. The benchmarks people post are often not great because they show best dps in a vacuum. While pugging and even with your own groups - you have to adapt a lot. As long as you can pull your own weight, you'll be fine. Either way best of luck to you and enjoy!

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Roquen.5406 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:

    @Roquen.5406 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    Be thankful you can do raids to get the ring in the first place. There is no room in my heart to go into any elitist dungeon for the effect I witnessed yesterday. To be fair wasn't overly keen , so a good thing but still.

    There are so many casual groups and training runs that people have all the time. As long as you read up and come prepared (a good build and proper gear) you can hop in for even a single boss and leave when you want. You don't have to commit to every boss every week. You can do it at your own pace. I think people overstate the difficulty/elitism that goes on.

    Yes, there are elitists and yes there are toxic people but often those are the worst groups to be in and you wouldn't want to be there anyways - they tend to fail a lot. But these people exist in every game mode and in fact every game... /shrug

    Thanks but it's till not my cup of tea - and I don't have the hours to put in to git gud. I can survive farming bitter frost a bit longer :P

    No worries, just thought I'd share. If you are ever willing to try there are many groups out there that will help you learn. And you don't always need to commit hours, I've seen people hop in for 30 min to an hour or even just a single boss. The benchmarks people post are often not great because they show best dps in a vacuum. While pugging and even with your own groups - you have to adapt a lot. As long as you can pull your own weight, you'll be fine. Either way best of luck to you and enjoy!

    I thank you for your time. :)

  • ariel.5038ariel.5038 Member ✭✭

    I used to raid, but for a variety of reasons I no longer do so. If I just needed a single w5/w7 clear to finish the collections that would be OK since I could pay for a clear . However, the fact that you need 150 LD for the gift of compassion would mean many weeks of full clears, and this is not practical for non-raiders.

    I am disappointed that I will be unable to unlock the full effects of the legendary trinket collection. I am not a casual player, but my main game mode is WvW. I can only hope Anet will add a method of acquiring trinkets in WvW/PvP/Open world that will allow non-raiders a method to complete the full legendary trinket collection. Either that or give us a means of turning off the aura from aurora/vision. I would rather be able to turn off the effects than be stuck at some half-finished stage of the final version.

  • Oogo.4083Oogo.4083 Member ✭✭
    edited June 12, 2019

    after 2 years waiting, raiding dilligently all in hope for something fancy and all i get aurora 2.0 same effect nothing special. i am sure upraor would be out of this world if 2nd generation greatsword after waiting 3 years intead of exordium they give you sunrise/twilight and said be happy or shut up.... this sucks..... every legendary is different, it cost same amount materials ( gifts/MC/ gems etc). this is very dissapointing. it just make me sad. say whaty you want But i am just sad..

  • Brosef.7852Brosef.7852 Member ✭✭
    edited June 13, 2019

    It looks like a floating toilet pudding with the combined effects

  • LucianDK.8615LucianDK.8615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I am personally going to stop with Aurora+Vision. I like the second effect. But the third? Completely terrible. I dread what a fourth or fifth level animation might look like. A second ring and amulet.

  • For the gift of compassion can we use the gift of maguuma mastery instead of the desert mastery one?

  • yusayu.3629yusayu.3629 Member ✭✭✭

    I like the idea. I just don't like the way the 3rd effect looks, why is there a black, oily blob in the middle? Shouldn't that be more like a star or something? Or just let me dye the blob, that'd be fine too.

  • vyncius.6105vyncius.6105 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dami.5046 said:

    @Roquen.5406 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    Be thankful you can do raids to get the ring in the first place. There is no room in my heart to go into any elitist dungeon for the effect I witnessed yesterday. To be fair wasn't overly keen , so a good thing but still.

    There are so many casual groups and training runs that people have all the time. As long as you read up and come prepared (a good build and proper gear) you can hop in for even a single boss and leave when you want. You don't have to commit to every boss every week. You can do it at your own pace. I think people overstate the difficulty/elitism that goes on.

    Yes, there are elitists and yes there are toxic people but often those are the worst groups to be in and you wouldn't want to be there anyways - they tend to fail a lot. But these people exist in every game mode and in fact every game... /shrug

    Thanks but it's till not my cup of tea - and I don't have the hours to put in to git gud. I can survive farming bitter frost a bit longer :P

    I am curious what do you actualy do in this game if farming berries for 30mins for you is already hardcore

  • Zaxares.5419Zaxares.5419 Member ✭✭✭

    So if I'm getting this right, if you wear Coalescence on its own, it ALSO just has the base Aurora effect? That... does seem very unimaginative. Each of the Legendary trinkets is supposed to represent something different (Aurora - Awareness/Curiosity, Vision - Purpose/Determination, Coalescence - Rage/Hatred), so having each individual trinket manifest the same visual effect just feels like a big letdown. I'd have preferred it if each one has its own unique appearance, that when combined with the others create their own unique effects. Perhaps the final look could be the same as what it is now, but the intervening stages just feel like a disappointment.

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:
    Would you rather they all have unique effects that stack and cause more of a mess? This is the only way they could have done it.

    Yes a big reason many people do it is prestige and if they look almost the same except when in combat you can’t tell which is which

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  • Talindra.4958Talindra.4958 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ariel.5038 said:
    I used to raid, but for a variety of reasons I no longer do so. If I just needed a single w5/w7 clear to finish the collections that would be OK since I could pay for a clear . However, the fact that you need 150 LD for the gift of compassion would mean many weeks of full clears, and this is not practical for non-raiders.

    I am disappointed that I will be unable to unlock the full effects of the legendary trinket collection. I am not a casual player, but my main game mode is WvW. I can only hope Anet will add a method of acquiring trinkets in WvW/PvP/Open world that will allow non-raiders a method to complete the full legendary trinket collection. Either that or give us a means of turning off the aura from aurora/vision. I would rather be able to turn off the effects than be stuck at some half-finished stage of the final version.

    Unfortunately, similar to leg armour you do need to grind a bit for the item. Imo 150 ld isnt much. I hardly do w6 as i stop raiding since i cleared the wing and completed all achievements. I tried and couldnt bring myself back to raid again after a nice break from raid and breath better air without raids.
    Tbh with the aura, i prefer aurora.. the third one looks silly dark blob floating..... 💩💩😅

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  • Talindra.4958Talindra.4958 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @LucianDK.8615 said:
    I am personally going to stop with Aurora+Vision. I like the second effect. But the third? Completely terrible. I dread what a fourth or fifth level animation might look like. A second ring and amulet.

    Yup totally agree.. i know its personal preference and each has thier like but the 3rd effect really look silly.. doesnt suit my character.. i like aurora

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  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @vyncius.6105 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:

    @Roquen.5406 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    Be thankful you can do raids to get the ring in the first place. There is no room in my heart to go into any elitist dungeon for the effect I witnessed yesterday. To be fair wasn't overly keen , so a good thing but still.

    There are so many casual groups and training runs that people have all the time. As long as you read up and come prepared (a good build and proper gear) you can hop in for even a single boss and leave when you want. You don't have to commit to every boss every week. You can do it at your own pace. I think people overstate the difficulty/elitism that goes on.

    Yes, there are elitists and yes there are toxic people but often those are the worst groups to be in and you wouldn't want to be there anyways - they tend to fail a lot. But these people exist in every game mode and in fact every game... /shrug

    Thanks but it's till not my cup of tea - and I don't have the hours to put in to git gud. I can survive farming bitter frost a bit longer :P

    I am curious what do you actualy do in this game if farming berries for 30mins for you is already hardcore

    Not quite what I meant.
    To get the ring you need to goto raids - I don't raid - so will never get the leggie ring.
    THEREFORE if i want another ring for another stat i would need to farm berries etc.
    Hope that clears this up for you.
    love.

  • Asum.4960Asum.4960 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:
    Would you rather they all have unique effects that stack and cause more of a mess? This is the only way they could have done it.

    It does look like a complete mess already though.
    If you play with multiple people all having these trinkets be it 1,2 or 3, you can barely see the game, especially in tight spaces.

    Anet has always been about finding a creative solution to things instead of taking some easy route to get things done, sometimes to a fault, with it resulting in slow content releases.
    But then when they take the easy route, they do so when they really shouldn't have.

    Now we have this imo pretty awful and obstructing visual effect on top of characters heads that everybody who will ever make any Legendary Trinket will have, with no option of disabling it.
    Now sure, if you mostly run around in open world surrounded by mostly casual players who rarely have such trinkets in wide open spaces where they don't obstruct much, it maybe wont be that annoying, at least not yet.
    But once every group in hardcore content has 5-10 players with these balls floating above their heads obstructing your view, trust me, it gets pretty old pretty quick.

    That aside, due to infusions, people can already look like glowsticks if they want to, and the visual integrity of the game has been going downhill since years.
    If anything had the right to have cool unique visual effects, it should have been the Legendary Trinkets, no?

    I wish they would have made them at least body centered auras, instead of the distracting and obscuring overhead visual effects, which then, if need be to avoid visual overcrowding, could combine into a new unique aura.

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  • LucianDK.8615LucianDK.8615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    tbh the most obscuring thing I find is the nameclutter in zergs. Extremely difficult to see what goes on because of the big blobs.