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Let's talk about the focus pull

Atticus.7194Atticus.7194 Member ✭✭✭

I love it in PvE but lets be real in PvP and especially WvW it's almost hilariously overpowered. I was goofing around as a support chrono in wvw and I pulled a poor unlucky soul from the edge of the stairs up to the wall at mendons all the way over easily. Felt like trash doing it, I honestly was hoping to just pull him off his AC not do all that, really REALLY feel like this needs like a 50% reduction in competitive modes.

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  • Levetty.1279Levetty.1279 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm more interested in what the proposed 50% reduction would be. Like would it just make people lean towards it in PvP?

  • viquing.8254viquing.8254 Member ✭✭✭

    @Atticus.7194 said:
    I love it in PvE but lets be real in PvP and especially WvW it's almost hilariously overpowered. I was goofing around as a support chrono in wvw and I pulled a poor unlucky soul from the edge of the stairs up to the wall at mendons all the way over easily. Felt like trash doing it, I honestly was hoping to just pull him off his AC not do all that, really REALLY feel like this needs like a 50% reduction in competitive modes.

    Thanks for the laught.
    In PvP : look at other class aoe bump/grab with no ICD, less/no cast time, higher range or half CD. Not even looking to just AOE CC.
    Then lookt at mesmer pull.
    Good to know you feel op when you grab someone with no auto-antiCC on a wall in WvW.
    I didn't feel op at all when I'm running focus pull in PvP. Thanks.

  • Lincolnbeard.1735Lincolnbeard.1735 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Focus is trash, both 4 and 5 need a buff.
    Yeah yeah shorts uses focus and all, that don't change a thing.

    The degenerate

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    the pull is a bit ridiculous but its only use is in wvw so its not that bad.

    Te lazla otstra.

  • MrPhantasia.5924MrPhantasia.5924 Member ✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    the pull is a bit ridiculous but its only use is in wvw so its not that bad.

    The best mirage build in cinquest, Zeromis GS mirage, uses it. Its the only mirage build thats won an MAT since the portal nerf.

  • praqtos.9035praqtos.9035 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MrPhantasia.5924 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    the pull is a bit ridiculous but its only use is in wvw so its not that bad.

    The best mirage build in cinquest, Zeromis GS mirage, uses it. Its the only mirage build thats won an MAT since the portal nerf.

    Which is a dead weight in EU.
    This cmirage main that won monthly as scrapper is 0 on any power variation. Which is confirms that condi mirage carry bad players. How he won monthly thats a huge mistery to me. I mean I seen him in ranked, he died like potato to chronos 24/7...
    Not to mention any mesmer build being shut down by a thief ,easly

  • MrPhantasia.5924MrPhantasia.5924 Member ✭✭✭

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @MrPhantasia.5924 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    the pull is a bit ridiculous but its only use is in wvw so its not that bad.

    The best mirage build in cinquest, Zeromis GS mirage, uses it. Its the only mirage build thats won an MAT since the portal nerf.

    Which is a dead weight in EU.
    This cmirage main that won monthly as scrapper is 0 on any power variation. Which is confirms that condi mirage carry bad players. How he won monthly thats a huge mistery to me. I mean I seen him in ranked, he died like potato to chronos 24/7...
    Not to mention any mesmer build being shut down by a thief ,easly

    Sorry im not following

  • praqtos.9035praqtos.9035 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2019

    @MrPhantasia.5924 said:

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @MrPhantasia.5924 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    the pull is a bit ridiculous but its only use is in wvw so its not that bad.

    The best mirage build in cinquest, Zeromis GS mirage, uses it. Its the only mirage build thats won an MAT since the portal nerf.

    Which is a dead weight in EU.

    "The best mirage build for conquest". At least thats what its feels like here

    This cmirage main that won monthly as scrapper is 0 on any power variation. Which is confirms that condi mirage carry bad players. How he won monthly thats a huge mistery to me. I mean I seen him in ranked, he died like potato to chronos 24/7...
    Not to mention any mesmer build being shut down by a thief ,easly

    Mesmer main that won mAT being farmed by random ppl with that build :joy: (my thoughts about cmirage/thief is a side note) :P

  • Soulock.1752Soulock.1752 Member ✭✭

    I'm testing Focus for my Power Core Mesmer, please don't force us to use the same set of weapons only to create 0 diversity 😢

  • viquing.8254viquing.8254 Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2019

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @MrPhantasia.5924 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    the pull is a bit ridiculous but its only use is in wvw so its not that bad.

    The best mirage build in cinquest, Zeromis GS mirage, uses it. Its the only mirage build thats won an MAT since the portal nerf.

    Which is a dead weight in EU.
    This cmirage main that won monthly as scrapper is 0 on any power variation. Which is confirms that condi mirage carry bad players. How he won monthly thats a huge mistery to me. I mean I seen him in ranked, he died like potato to chronos 24/7...
    Not to mention any mesmer build being shut down by a thief ,easly

    I tend to go in your direction.
    It's interesting because often we I read this forum It seems that NA is full of top skill mesmers who kill everyone with a large panel of builds/weapon set.
    It also seems that there are overall more mesmers players in NA than in EU.
    I'm in EU, I fight everyday against leg to plat 1 players (basically all players in ladder.) so what I see is :

    • 4 mesmers in top 100.
    • Only one mesmer with a focus this season who isn't in the leaderboard.
    • Last season I didn't see other mesmers except me with a focus. (That I put aside this season.)
      So ok, I could forget some players in my analysis, of course there is mesmers which I only see in At but I'm very surprised to read that someone win a mAt with a focus (I do not follow NA tournaments actually, maybe I should.).
  • praqtos.9035praqtos.9035 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @viquing.8254 said:

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @MrPhantasia.5924 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    the pull is a bit ridiculous but its only use is in wvw so its not that bad.

    The best mirage build in cinquest, Zeromis GS mirage, uses it. Its the only mirage build thats won an MAT since the portal nerf.

    Which is a dead weight in EU.
    This cmirage main that won monthly as scrapper is 0 on any power variation. Which is confirms that condi mirage carry bad players. How he won monthly thats a huge mistery to me. I mean I seen him in ranked, he died like potato to chronos 24/7...
    Not to mention any mesmer build being shut down by a thief ,easly

    I tend to go in your direction.
    It's interesting because often we I read this forum It seems that NA is full of top skill mesmers who kill everyone with a large panel of builds/weapon set.
    It also seems that there are overall more mesmers players in NA than in EU.
    I'm in EU, I fight everyday against leg to plat 1 players (basically all players in ladder.) so what I see is :

    • 4 mesmers in top 100.
    • Only one mesmer with a focus this season who isn't in the leaderboard.
    • Last season I didn't see other mesmers except me with a focus. (That I put aside this season.)
      So ok, I could forget some players in my analysis, of course there is mesmers which I only see in At but I'm very surprised to read that someone win a mAt with a focus (I do not follow NA tournaments actually, maybe I should.).

    In short, they just have a "team" that always faceroll over everyone close to 500-0. Highly doubt that will change if they throw away the mesmer from their comp :joy:

  • Simonoly.4352Simonoly.4352 Member ✭✭✭

    I don't think pulling the odd poor fellow off a wall is much of a worry compared to staff Eles being able to clear a wall of defenders and siege in a single meteor shower or Necros and Guardians lining the lip of a wall with so many AoE circles that the defenders can't actually...defend.

  • Heartpains.7312Heartpains.7312 Member ✭✭✭

    Some people just wanna see Mesmers burn :angry:

  • Blue.1207Blue.1207 Member ✭✭✭

    Ah yes, the best pull in the game being countered by aegis or stab (which you should always have on you before engagements).

    So absolutely broken, top kek, delete post.

  • Daishi.6027Daishi.6027 Member ✭✭✭✭

    You have to place it in just the right way to fully pull someone off compared to it's original design. If you are on the cliff with the guy to be able to target over the ledge to pull them off is something that should be rewarded with a kill, not punished with a nerf.

    If anything power builds (whom are the ones typically running focus) needs a buff.

  • MiniMe.1960MiniMe.1960 Member ✭✭

    @Atticus.7194 said:
    I love it in PvE but lets be real in PvP and especially WvW it's almost hilariously overpowered. I was goofing around as a support chrono in wvw and I pulled a poor unlucky soul from the edge of the stairs up to the wall at mendons all the way over easily. Felt like trash doing it, I honestly was hoping to just pull him off his AC not do all that, really REALLY feel like this needs like a 50% reduction in competitive modes.

    You're trolling right? On the contrary, the skill needs a buff!!!

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