It is better not to interrupt an enemy stomp — Guild Wars 2 Forums

It is better not to interrupt an enemy stomp

James.1065James.1065 Member ✭✭✭

I saw some discussions about your ethical responsibility to try by all means to ress a downed team mate and interupt the enemy stomp. I agree with this.

However in a 1v1 when you get downed. Why interrupt the player stomping you? I always try to stomp a 1v1 as a sign of respect to the enemy to finish him quickly and get him back in the game, as leaving him to bleed out slowly is unethical to me and makes a toxic atmosphere. However I get super irritated when I am trying to stomp the downed player to help him re-spawn quicker, and he interupts me. I mean he is only wasting his own time, so I teach him a lesson by dotting him up and walk away....

How do others see this, or should we just remove the downed state from SPvP?

Why interrupt a person helping you!? Even if it's the enemy you can still show sone respect

Comments

  • Megametzler.5729Megametzler.5729 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Haha, I agree. While I let people bleed in more serious matches, after a good fight I stomp or kill them quickly (usually).

    However, if he tries to interrupt or anything, I leave them...

    Would it be a solution to revive downed players more quickly if they get out of fight? Or the opponents he fought? This way the stomp would become necessary and bleeding out would stop... it really is an awful mechanic of an otherise nice idea (the downed mechanic itself).

    Hmm, people could still atack with weak skills to prevent ressing... not a good idea, I guess.

  • bravan.3876bravan.3876 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Depends on the situation. On duel server or WvW it might be faster to let ppl self ress because otherwise they have to run back through the whole map for the next duel. In ffa arena let ppl bleed is more a troll move than useful.

    "playing revenant is borderline exploiting" - up condimirage 2k18

  • Ashkew.6584Ashkew.6584 Member ✭✭

    i interrupt stomps if i see a teammember coming, or i interrupt some classes to proc possible passives on cc just to waste some cooldowns on him

  • Vague Memory.2817Vague Memory.2817 Member ✭✭✭

    Well not all classes have a downed interrupt, but the one s that do are just trying to buy more time, and sometimes it works. They are hoping and that a team mate will come along and save them and better yet they then get to stomp you. Sometimes when you think you are bleeding someone out a team mate comes along and revs them. Either way you just lost 5 pts for your team. You can look at it that way too.

  • bravan.3876bravan.3876 Member ✭✭✭✭

    He was only talking about duels or not? Otherwise it would be pretty weird. In conquest there is way more tactical thoughts behind when to let ppl bleed and when not than being kind to a player or not... rofl

    "playing revenant is borderline exploiting" - up condimirage 2k18

  • aymnad.9023aymnad.9023 Member ✭✭
    edited June 15, 2019

    Sure bleeding is annoying but I also do it because there are times where I cannot win without it.
    Why interrupt someone "helping" ? Well did you know that even in downstate you prevent people from capping ? It is better to die on a point and gain a few seconds for your team. You get more points and you give time for someone to replace you. If you are outside of a point and noone is coming then yes, accept it to respawn faster.
    Also if you are talking about 1V1 only I still think some classes should not be considered "defeated" once they are in downstate. Ranger beeing the best example for this. I did end up winning a lot of "downstate fights" because I get an owl F2 + taunt + stun once in downstate and the fast rez from the pet. Thief damage is also high, or necro lifesteal or even a warrior second chance.

  • Ovark.2514Ovark.2514 Member ✭✭✭

    @James.1065 said:
    I saw some discussions about your ethical responsibility to try by all means to ress a downed team mate and interupt the enemy stomp. I agree with this.

    However in a 1v1 when you get downed. Why interrupt the player stomping you? I always try to stomp a 1v1 as a sign of respect to the enemy to finish him quickly and get him back in the game, as leaving him to bleed out slowly is unethical to me and makes a toxic atmosphere. However I get super irritated when I am trying to stomp the downed player to help him re-spawn quicker, and he interupts me. I mean he is only wasting his own time, so I teach him a lesson by dotting him up and walk away....

    How do others see this, or should we just remove the downed state from SPvP?

    Why interrupt a person helping you!? Even if it's the enemy you can still show sone respect

    Letting them bleed out doesn't teach them a lesson. They are merely playing the game as it is meant to be played. All you're doing is being a [email protected]

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    when I interrupt stomps i'm in try hard mode and i'm salty.

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ovark.2514 said:

    @James.1065 said:
    I saw some discussions about your ethical responsibility to try by all means to ress a downed team mate and interupt the enemy stomp. I agree with this.

    However in a 1v1 when you get downed. Why interrupt the player stomping you? I always try to stomp a 1v1 as a sign of respect to the enemy to finish him quickly and get him back in the game, as leaving him to bleed out slowly is unethical to me and makes a toxic atmosphere. However I get super irritated when I am trying to stomp the downed player to help him re-spawn quicker, and he interupts me. I mean he is only wasting his own time, so I teach him a lesson by dotting him up and walk away....

    How do others see this, or should we just remove the downed state from SPvP?

    Why interrupt a person helping you!? Even if it's the enemy you can still show sone respect

    Letting them bleed out doesn't teach them a lesson. They are merely playing the game as it is meant to be played. All you're doing is being a [email protected]

    Its a tactic.. Let them bleed out so it takes longer for them to get back into the game.

    Say Im playing GS mes on foefire (using example from tonight).. I downed a thief near home then let him bleed out while I did some face smashing against the keyboard on mid.. Meanwhile the thief thought he could self rez so I went back and poked him down again back to about 50% health... this cycle continued twice before he accepted his inevitable respawn.

    You can keep a player out of the game and reduce the teams to a 4v5 for maybe a minute.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion.
    06210311 251521 121512

  • Ovark.2514Ovark.2514 Member ✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @Ovark.2514 said:

    @James.1065 said:
    I saw some discussions about your ethical responsibility to try by all means to ress a downed team mate and interupt the enemy stomp. I agree with this.

    However in a 1v1 when you get downed. Why interrupt the player stomping you? I always try to stomp a 1v1 as a sign of respect to the enemy to finish him quickly and get him back in the game, as leaving him to bleed out slowly is unethical to me and makes a toxic atmosphere. However I get super irritated when I am trying to stomp the downed player to help him re-spawn quicker, and he interupts me. I mean he is only wasting his own time, so I teach him a lesson by dotting him up and walk away....

    How do others see this, or should we just remove the downed state from SPvP?

    Why interrupt a person helping you!? Even if it's the enemy you can still show sone respect

    Letting them bleed out doesn't teach them a lesson. They are merely playing the game as it is meant to be played. All you're doing is being a [email protected]

    Its a tactic.. Let them bleed out so it takes longer for them to get back into the game.

    Say Im playing GS mes on foefire (using example from tonight).. I downed a thief near home then let him bleed out while I did some face smashing against the keyboard on mid.. Meanwhile the thief thought he could self rez so I went back and poked him down again back to about 50% health... this cycle continued twice before he accepted his inevitable respawn.

    You can keep a player out of the game and reduce the teams to a 4v5 for maybe a minute.

    Whenever a player does such a thing to me or someone else I can't help but question their empathy. I think anet should have Bandage (self-rez downed skill) have a 1 second reduced CD for each time it's interrupted as well as maintaining the same heal-over-time level it was at at the time of interruption.

  • James.1065James.1065 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 16, 2019

    @Megametzler.5729 said:
    Haha, I agree. While I let people bleed in more serious matches, after a good fight I stomp or kill them quickly (usually).

    However, if he tries to interrupt or anything, I leave them...

    Would it be a solution to revive downed players more quickly if they get out of fight? Or the opponents he fought? This way the stomp would become necessary and bleeding out would stop... it really is an awful mechanic of an otherise nice idea (the downed mechanic itself).

    Hmm, people could still atack with weak skills to prevent ressing... not a good idea, I guess.

    This is a good idea, it just needs tweaking. For example, in downed state you are immune to all Condi damage and when out of combat self bandage is 100% faster.

    This will mean the enemy has to either cleave you down, or stomp you. No more bleeding out cause you will rezz yourself if the enemy leaves you alone.

    However back to original post, if you not downed on point and there are no team mates around to save you, why would you go about wasting time interrupting a stomp that gets you back in the game quicker?

  • shion.2084shion.2084 Member ✭✭

    I totally interrupt stomps if I own the point still and am downed. Get a couple of extra ticks that way.

  • I have a little nonverbal chart for how I usually behave when downed

    If it was GG and I am not on the point, I wont do anything to you.

    If:

    • it was GG, and I think hammer toss is gonna buy me time to vengeance,
    • I see a teammate coming
    • I'm on the point

    I'm gonna throw hammer AND junk at you.

    If it was GG but I think you're a cheeky little kitten I'm going to throw hammer at you then let you stomp me.

    [Charr Noises]
    [Plays every class]
    [JUST GIT EVEN GUDDER ITS FINE]

  • Devilman.1532Devilman.1532 Member ✭✭✭

    downstate was always a terrible mechanic and bad idea in pvp

  • Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭

    They should just remove downstate from ffa arena.

©2010–2018 ArenaNet, LLC. All rights reserved. Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, Heart of Thorns, Guild Wars 2: Path of Fire, ArenaNet, NCSOFT, the Interlocking NC Logo, and all associated logos and designs are trademarks or registered trademarks of NCSOFT Corporation. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners.