New PvP Titles - Season 17 — Guild Wars 2 Forums

New PvP Titles - Season 17

edited April 9, 2019 in PVP

Hey folks!

After the recent vote we had, and looking through the suggestions, we've decided to go with the nobility theme, but replace "of PvP" with "of the Arena."

1st: God/Goddess of the Arena
2nd: Demigod/Demigoddess of the Arena
3rd: King/Queen of the Arena
4th-10th: Prince/Princess of the Arena
11th–25th: Duke/Duchess of the Arena
26th-100th: Baron/Baroness of the Arena
101st–250th: Knight/Dame of the Arena

The current plan is to have this in place for season 17.

If you earned the current titles, they will not go away.

Thanks!

Ben Phongluangtham
Senior Game Designer

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  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    cool deal man

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • I'm guessing the titles will stay for later seasons or are there any plans for minor changes along the way?

  • @phoenixXx.9105 said:
    I'm guessing the titles will stay for later seasons or are there any plans for minor changes along the way?

    No current plans to change them again for later seasons, but it's always possible.

    Ben Phongluangtham
    Senior Game Designer

  • Meteor.3720Meteor.3720 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Will there be any incentive to get a title more than once? Or at least will such an incentive be introduced in the future? I like the new titles but a pre-existing issue is that once you've achieved a certain rank and got the associated title there isn't any particular reason to push for that rank again.

  • sarkysek.1085sarkysek.1085 Member ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the heads-up, Ben! New titles sound pretty cool, will definitely try to get at least top 100 next season!

  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'm glad you went with "Nobility of the Arena'. That was my favorite option.

    The Psychomancer: Mesmer Elite Specialization Suggestion

  • Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭

    So now no one is going to think im cool because of my ruthless legend title? (Dude no one ever thought that you were cool)

    ...harsh

  • @Meteor.3720 said:
    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Will there be any incentive to get a title more than once? Or at least will such an incentive be introduced in the future? I like the new titles but a pre-existing issue is that once you've achieved a certain rank and got the associated title there isn't any particular reason to push for that rank again.

    It's something we talk about from time to time. 1st place has a good motivator to try to get it again as you can prevent others from getting it. Which has some value to some types of players.

    We have some ideas of other things we can do. However, I think it's going to be quite a while before we have time to put more thought into it.

    Ben Phongluangtham
    Senior Game Designer

  • Doctor.1905Doctor.1905 Member ✭✭

    I wanna be a princess!

  • Chilli.2976Chilli.2976 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Can we include Pepega of the Arena?

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Eh not into something that will just be hard to get due to duo wintrading. Wintrade wars season 13 wont be worth much again. Least when it was team if I went in solo (most of the time) I didnt have to worry about someone on my team throwing the game.

  • Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭

    @Doctor.1905 said:
    I wanna be a princess!

    I like playing dress up too

  • Balsa.3951Balsa.3951 Member ✭✭✭

    Ahh not sure they sound not like fighter more like the people who watch the fights and sipping their tea

    God and demigod is strong

    The rest is Like the British Yellow Pages

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Need to add the title of "Serf of the Arena" for the absolute lowest ranked person, that way I get a title.

    they probably won't because people would try to be lowest ranked. also, try to get less than 50 rating. that is the real challenge (without decay)

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • mrauls.6519mrauls.6519 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:

    @Meteor.3720 said:
    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Will there be any incentive to get a title more than once? Or at least will such an incentive be introduced in the future? I like the new titles but a pre-existing issue is that once you've achieved a certain rank and got the associated title there isn't any particular reason to push for that rank again.

    It's something we talk about from time to time. 1st place has a good motivator to try to get it again as you can prevent others from getting it. Which has some value to some types of players.

    We have some ideas of other things we can do. However, I think it's going to be quite a while before we have time to put more thought into it.

    Make it work like exponents... if you have gotten top 250 twice... x2 next to title

  • mrauls.6519mrauls.6519 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 10, 2019

    Both happy & sad about new titles. Happy, because I like the theme. Sad, because now I have to grind for top titles again.

    Hopefully I can escape the MMR demons!

  • meowmeow.9125meowmeow.9125 Member ✭✭
    edited April 10, 2019

    What are these miserable supplements "... of the Arena"?
    Okay, leave the medieval titles aside, it's smth already, but there are easy ways to make titles not just distinctive for just PvP but at the same time make them enjoyable and so being kind of worthy for the efforts. I think most of players in top-250 are for quite a while playing in the same leagues and wont improve or regress much so just after one season with your system these new titles will become out of dated. Not telling they are just dull and not worthing it now.

    Even such easy thing as just adding its own unique epithet for each individual number in the top 250 can improve the situation.
    The Gloomy princess for number 7, the Stinking baron for the 66th, the Azure king for 3, the Dame of slaughter for 150, and etc. and etc.
    And this will be funny, this will be more interactive. Not that it will take you a symposium of creators, one part-time student with a drop of humor for just one night could be enough.

    I just hope that the last point of your "Own philosophy" - "strive for the fun", - was not just another piece of kitten. As many things you do and say, dear anet, seems to be out-of-stream.

  • Ithilwen.1529Ithilwen.1529 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Sweet Titles... well chosen. Unfortunately, I'll probably not be able to earn one.

    Mesmerizing Girl

  • OutOfOrder.3719OutOfOrder.3719 Member ✭✭✭

    I sure hope the match making system is updated for less volatile placements for fairer matches to go alongside these new PvP titles.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps get rid of the leaderboard and assign those titles to those who reach a certain rating instead

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • Rodzynald.5897Rodzynald.5897 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 14, 2019

    As long as there are so many cases of wintrading, and all those weird unpunished shenanigans between players like "afk after losing mid" then those titles are not too appealing to me.

    EDIT:
    Actually, wouldn't it be better to give such titles in 2v2 setting instead for DUO or SOLO play in a FIVE VERSUS FIVE setting? Keep it consistent.

    Casual friendly and quality pvp - these two do not work well together.

  • If you already have the old Top 25 title will you unlock the new one automatically or do you need to earn it again in the new seasons?

  • witcher.3197witcher.3197 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Keksmuffin.1450 said:
    If you already have the old Top 25 title will you unlock the new one automatically or do you need to earn it again in the new seasons?

    Obviously you'll have to earn it again.

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Let the massive relentless wintrading wars begin next season! When a shiny object is flashed in front of basement trolls then they tend to ramp up the "afks" and "random fighting" while on alt accounts.

    Yawwwnnnn. Can we get gw3 with no circlequest since gw2 is ruined by bad operation choices? Or hell gw1 remastered.

  • maxwelgm.4315maxwelgm.4315 Member ✭✭✭

    I don't want to hijack the thread talking about how we could use different combat modes instead, so just gonna say it's nice to have more titles to look forward to (at least the ones past ranking X - X being the amount of "fixed" places that season).

  • Marxx.5021Marxx.5021 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:
    Hey folks!

    After the recent vote we had, and looking through the suggestions, we've decided to go with the nobility theme, but replace "of PvP" with "of the Arena."

    1st: God/Goddess of the Arena
    2nd: Demigod/Demigoddess of the Arena
    3rd: King/Queen of the Arena
    4th-10th: Prince/Princess of the Arena
    11th–25th: Duke/Duchess of the Arena
    26th-100th: Baron/Baroness of the Arena
    101st–250th: Knight/Dame of the Arena

    The current plan is to have this in place for season 17.

    If you earned the current titles, they will not go away.

    Thanks!

    Strange humor. PvP is dying slow and painful but thanks for new titles ...

  • kodesh.2851kodesh.2851 Member ✭✭

    Not a fan of the new titles, but I only play for the sake of the gameplay anyway so whatever.

  • Reirli.3817Reirli.3817 Member ✭✭

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:

    @Meteor.3720 said:
    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Will there be any incentive to get a title more than once? Or at least will such an incentive be introduced in the future? I like the new titles but a pre-existing issue is that once you've achieved a certain rank and got the associated title there isn't any particular reason to push for that rank again.

    It's something we talk about from time to time. 1st place has a good motivator to try to get it again as you can prevent others from getting it. Which has some value to some types of players.

    We have some ideas of other things we can do. However, I think it's going to be quite a while before we have time to put more thought into it.

    it's about time to implement some "colored titles" maybe based on the amount of times we've obtained that title, our title changes color : v

  • Reirli.3817Reirli.3817 Member ✭✭

    it would also be nice to see anet implement armor skins for the top leaderboard, just another incentive for players to battle for the titles

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Keksmuffin.1450 said:
    If you already have the old Top 25 title will you unlock the new one automatically or do you need to earn it again in the new seasons?

    Ofc not. That's exactly why they are changing the titles. People that have a title already have nothing to go for anymore.

  • when does pvp season 17 start?

  • bladezero.9470bladezero.9470 Member ✭✭✭

    Meh, don't like them.

  • bladezero.9470bladezero.9470 Member ✭✭✭

    This was completely unnecessary and not appreciated.

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2019

    Wintrader of the mists < for the "top" lol players

    Afk of the mists < also for the wintrader "top"

    Rage quitter of the mists < last place person

  • Nawaak.6918Nawaak.6918 Member ✭✭
    edited May 16, 2019

    Titles are nice but only few players are concerned..
    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065
    PvP is dying because it is not appealing, but also because queuing is already a pain. The waiting times are high, but you can't make the people play pvp to reduce this time, but you can make this waiting time be more appreciable to motivates the players to play pvp. And secondly I'm not sure the strategy you used to make pvp appealing worked well, tournaments are nice but meh.. too few players are playing.

    To facilitate the PvP queuing:

    • A "stay in queue" button when a match is found: Nobody wants to camp somewhere doing nothing, and it's actually annoying to do PvE while being in queue. Players actually CAN'T do PvE while waiting for PvP because they do not have to possibility to delay (a bit) the match. You end up saying no, you then forget to tag again, or you get a terrible place in queue which makes you lose time and you finally don't play pvp.
    • The second important feature for the PvE players would be a character selection to enter the queue or when accepting a match: We do not always play PvP with our PvE chars, and if we want to do so, it means 1 loading screen to get to the match, 1 loading to reroll to the PvP char, 1 loading to exit the match and 1 last to get back to the PvE char. Can't we have automatic reroll to get to the match with the PvP char and back to the PvE char after the match? This functionality would be gold for most of the players and would motivate PvE players to do more PvP, I can't believe this is not implemented already.

    To render the PvP more appealing:

    • Remove the map selection. I do understand you wanted to please the players by giving them a chance to avoid playing on some maps. But in my humble opinion is was a really BAD idea. Your just indirectly reduced the number of PvP maps, because the players always choose the same ones for bad reasons (easier to play without a team, they always hear the map is bad, or they don't want to be disappointed if the teammates do not play the map mechanics correctly). It actually kills the pvp. Strategy should be a central point, if you let some idiot pvp players betting everything on their personal skills by choosing easy maps instead of using their ability to make good strategies (even with matchmaking) , the PvP level decreases logically.
    • Couldn't we have another solo(/duo) queue that functions like the tournaments with eliminations? The problem of the tournaments is that the constitution of a team is already a bottleneck. Even thought the principle is much more appealing, the players are simply not getting into it because it is for the moment too elitist (which is not a problem) but on a mode which is not popular (which is a real problem). The tournament are now a lot a time to invest for little time of fun. If there was a queue, it would also benefit to the tournament. Having a queue would make the elimination mode more popular. This mode is underrated, it brings way more satisfaction of progression (gw1 HA). The tournaments live next to a mode which doesn't show much impact for a single loss, losing a ranked game does not impact the progression where losing the first tournament match changes everything for the current progression. Because these two ways of playing are really different, I'm not sure the tournament will ever get popular if there are no automatic queue to make this mode what it deserves to be, an appealing pvp mode via a queue, with the possibility of getting higher rewards via the tournaments.
    • The capture of points did its time, people are tired of it. On one of the maps we have the lord to kill to get 150 points, at the release the pvp players like me saw it as a hint that the GvG will come soon. How many players did you already loose just because GW2, compared to GW1, on a PvP point of view, only has its name? I do not say it has to be the SAME but you can't pretend other modes like king of the hill, flag capture or gvg by killing the enemy lord are impossible to implement on GW2. GW1 shined in pvp because it was different, gvg, HA (with the HoH 1v1v1) , arenas, AvA.. With GW2 you lacked imagination, with your esport 5 members format, and this new MOBA-like mode that nobody liked. Could we please get something which is new AND worth to play on a strategical point of view?
    • Something smart would be to mixed the 2 last points. (#BringHoHBack)

    When I talk with former GW1 pvp mates, it is not nostalgia, you get nostalgia when you had good time and moved on to something different, here I talk about mourning, because we lost something that never came back, in GW2 or on another game. GW1 pvp was really elitist on a strategical point of view but players liked it and there was a ton of pvp players. GW2 pvp is not elitist but nobody likes it. I do not say there is a connection, but as we say in French, "perdu pour perdu" (=nothing to lose) do not be scared to be more ambitious for your future pvp updates..

    I intentionally exaggerate, which can make some of my saying too adamant. But at this point, the message has to be heard before there's nothing to be saved anymore.
    When we read "Hey folks!" followed by these new pvp titles.. It could be seen as a provocation. Anet had 7 years to improve pvp, and somehow I miss the tournaments we had post release. At some point we will think that you keep intentionally the pvp this way, not to create a hype around it because the pvp players are harder to monetize with a cashshop.
    "La Bise" from France

    Nwk

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The days of good pvp died with gw1. Even with dual classes pvp was balanced to a point and the maps were fun. There was no requirement to stand on a circle and be intentionally aoe bombed.

    Sadly it seems like those who picked circlequest as the main pvp mode have actually never played a pvp match in any game till then. Whoever decided that long ago should be fired by now.

    Now in gw2 pvp is a side joke with no real pro or top players. It's just alt account win trade wars for the "top" spots.

    Gotta wait for guild wars 3 or guild wars 1 HD 4k if they ever do Haha. As for pvp here the best place to be is in unranked.

  • Nawaak.6918Nawaak.6918 Member ✭✭
    edited May 17, 2019

    @Ziggityzog.7389 said:
    The days of good pvp died with gw1. Even with dual classes pvp was balanced to a point and the maps were fun. There was no requirement to stand on a circle and be intentionally aoe bombed.

    Sadly it seems like those who picked circlequest as the main pvp mode have actually never played a pvp match in any game till then. Whoever decided that long ago should be fired by now.

    Now in gw2 pvp is a side joke with no real pro or top players. It's just alt account win trade wars for the "top" spots.

    Gotta wait for guild wars 3 or guild wars 1 HD 4k if they ever do Haha. As for pvp here the best place to be is in unranked.

    It's sadly mostly right.. but I wouldn't be that critic regarding the point capture. First because well the mode itself isn't that bad (just doesn't work as it could with a smart map design), just that after 7 years everybody gets tired of it (and only months for most of us). The real problems do not lie there, because well, you can design other modes with gw2.

    The real challenge comes from the combat design. If you think of it 2 seconds, you can see that this game, as a MMO, has been designed as a single player game, I wouldn't fire the guy who thought of the capture mode, but the one who designed these aspects which make GW2 a hard game to work on to design real PvP modes.

    • First you have a self heal. On a 5v5 mode with 3 points to capture, the meta went naturally to duelist builds. I hate duelist builds because we are playing a multiplayer game, when the game design encourages you, in PvP, to play as a duelist (the 5 members of the team), it's a really BAD omen on the PvP level on a game. It means that you can't at the same time encourage team fights, where strategy has a more important place. Even wow arena or bg would be more interesting, and when you start to say that wow pvp is more interesting you get instantly how badly designed the game you are talking about is.
    • You cannot target allies. This is a freaking important point. There are no spells you can directly cast on an allie, only AOE. This is a tough problems, the most stupid ones would instantly say "yes but that's sufficient if the team communicate correctly" and indeed, there is nothing more annoying than casting a heal AOE spell like geyser (Ele) and the allie run away from it. But it was predictable that this design was bad, you can't design a game which provides more mobility to the characters and at the same time using game mechanics which makes you stand in a aoe for 5 seconds.

    A solution would be to design a game modes where:

    • the heal is replaced by the gw1 resurrection signet, single use, you target an allie (or the ground and it res the closest allie, I don't know how you designed gw2). What would it change. First, you can rally ONLY with a resurrection signet and a the same time you can heal yourself, It will give a hard time to the duelist build, because no team would risk to send a member somewhere on the map to cap or decap because dying would have much more impact.
    • you do not get resurrected by the timer, when you die, you die, unless there is still one signet available in the team to res you (eventually a res every 2 mins or whatever).This would bring more important to res control with interruptions on the guys who tries to res with the signet (we need at least a signet with a 600 range, otherwise it wouldn't change anything we would still have the stupid cleave on the guy to res/the guy who res). It would also bring more importance to the healers roles, and the key point of pvp is the collaboration, get rid of this kitten duelist meta.
    • Reducing the number of Objectives AND/OR increasing the number of players per team. But why? Well simple, if you have 3 objectives with a 5 players format, you can't prevent strategies where the duelists are the key points. Let say we only have 2 points, when you split you would have way more often 2v2s and 3v3s than 1v1s, and if at the same time dying is a problem, and you don't have a heal, you have at least a support on a roaming group. If the maps are well designs, you will encourage different play style, what kind of support can or cannot be played for one objective, as well as the other classes.

    Of course the signet is on a long term a cheap solution for the target allie problem, but at least it brings back some pvp spirit on a short term and it's an easy thing to implement.

    In 7 years, they proposed nothing to change a bit how bad the things were going for PvP. For me it's intellectual laziness. You cannot release a living world episode every 3 months with new skills/mounts/maps and so on and at the same time being unable to release a beta mode on an existing map just to take the temperature with the pvp players and see if it is going the right direction.
    What's going on at Anet? Should I do it myself? As a computer scientist, it's disgraceful that some of the functionalities I mentioned in my previous post for the queues are not implemented yet even though they are definitely no technical challenges, and solve problems really seen as freaking annoying for players who like both pvp and pve. You guys at Anet probably do not play PvP otherwise you would be aware of the queueing problem.

    Guild Wars is my childhood, seeing it die because of bad choices is hard to see. If PvE is the flesh of a game, never forget that the PvP is its backbone. Good PvP wouldn't make the game way more popular, but every player, pvp and pve acknowledge of the quality of a PvP mode. In guildwars 1 a lot of PvE players would do pvp always for the challenge, it makes a game deeper, do not let gw2 stay a caricature of its name.

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 17, 2019

    Gw1 had it all and the pvp play was amazing. I agree with everything including the redesign but I still stand by saying circlequest was the worst decision ever for gw2.

    Think about it you make a game mode where speed is required more then being skillful. If you want easy wins then just have a bow teef and hell you dont even need a second weapon just a bow and stealth. You win. You cant have a game mode based upon speed only but then have a profession that can teleport across the map in 1/5th the time of any other class.

    Circlequest = zzz zzz zzz

    Hince why I quit ranked pvp around season 7. Hell I've been in the pvp area since gw2 launch but with circlequest only in ranked with the wintrade wars going on has made it not worth the time.

    I'll stick to unranked stronghold and pvp roaming owning them in open world. Ranked isn't for real pvpers anymore it's just for the bots, afks, pve reward hunters, and wintraders.

  • Nawaak.6918Nawaak.6918 Member ✭✭

    I think you are wrong on that. Thief is actually the only interesting class to play/play against on a strategical point of view. It creates movement, dilemas, and unlock situations in a meta full of bunkers and 1v1s. Having a free electron class which makes the gameplay dynamic is not a bad thing. If you stopped season 7 you then don't have enough experience and/or interest for pvp to have an accurate opinion about it for what happened in the last seasons.

    circlequest isn't essentially bad, again it's what they made of it. I do not agree if you say that a circle quest map wouldn't have its place in a mode like HA in gw1. It would have been interesting. The problem is really the 3 points for only 5 players, which creates too few teamfights and too much duels. What you do not like it's that the thieves just have to decap to make a huge difference, not even fight (which is not true in higher divs but nvm) , and of course when there are only 3 points for 5 players such situations happen a LOT, the thief wouldn't be that OP in lower divs not even fighting if the ratio players/objectives would be higher.
    I actually did not see bots, afks, reward hunters and wintraders in 1500+ games but I'm playing in europe, it makes maybe a difference.

  • Nawaak.6918Nawaak.6918 Member ✭✭

    but your frustration is justified :/ I do feel the same

  • Falan.1839Falan.1839 Member ✭✭✭

    Imagine still complaining about conquest after 7 years.

    Falásya / Caissech

    "When you say it's gonna happen "now"
    When exactly do you mean?
    See I've already waited too long
    And all my hope is gone"
    The Smiths about Balance and PvP changes

  • Nawaak.6918Nawaak.6918 Member ✭✭

    @Falan.1839 said:
    Imagine still complaining about conquest after 7 years.

    Yea could be worse.. like having comments neither constructive nor positive ;)

  • Nawaak.6918Nawaak.6918 Member ✭✭
    edited May 17, 2019

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065
    Can I have at least an acknowledgement that Anet at least saw it? ty.

    @Nawaak.6918 said:

    @Ziggityzog.7389 said:
    The days of good pvp died with gw1. Even with dual classes pvp was balanced to a point and the maps were fun. There was no requirement to stand on a circle and be intentionally aoe bombed.

    Sadly it seems like those who picked circlequest as the main pvp mode have actually never played a pvp match in any game till then. Whoever decided that long ago should be fired by now.

    Now in gw2 pvp is a side joke with no real pro or top players. It's just alt account win trade wars for the "top" spots.

    Gotta wait for guild wars 3 or guild wars 1 HD 4k if they ever do Haha. As for pvp here the best place to be is in unranked.

    It's sadly mostly right.. but I wouldn't be that critic regarding the point capture. First because well the mode itself isn't that bad (just doesn't work as it could with a smart map design), just that after 7 years everybody gets tired of it (and only months for most of us). The real problems do not lie there, because well, you can design other modes with gw2.

    The real challenge comes from the combat design. If you think of it 2 seconds, you can see that this game, as a MMO, has been designed as a single player game, I wouldn't fire the guy who thought of the capture mode, but the one who designed these aspects which make GW2 a hard game to work on to design real PvP modes.

    • First you have a self heal. On a 5v5 mode with 3 points to capture, the meta went naturally to duelist builds. I hate duelist builds because we are playing a multiplayer game, when the game design encourages you, in PvP, to play as a duelist (the 5 members of the team), it's a really BAD omen on the PvP level on a game. It means that you can't at the same time encourage team fights, where strategy has a more important place. Even wow arena or bg would be more interesting, and when you start to say that wow pvp is more interesting you get instantly how badly designed the game you are talking about is.
    • You cannot target allies. This is a freaking important point. There are no spells you can directly cast on an allie, only AOE. This is a tough problems, the most stupid ones would instantly say "yes but that's sufficient if the team communicate correctly" and indeed, there is nothing more annoying than casting a heal AOE spell like geyser (Ele) and the allie run away from it. But it was predictable that this design was bad, you can't design a game which provides more mobility to the characters and at the same time using game mechanics which makes you stand in a aoe for 5 seconds.

    A solution would be to design a game modes where:

    • the heal is replaced by the gw1 resurrection signet, single use, you target an allie (or the ground and it res the closest allie, I don't know how you designed gw2). What would it change. First, you can rally ONLY with a resurrection signet and a the same time you can't heal yourself, It will give a hard time to the duelist build, because no team would risk to send a member somewhere on the map to cap or decap because dying would have much more impact.
    • you do not get resurrected by the timer, when you die, you die, unless there is still one signet available in the team to res you (eventually a res every 2 mins or whatever).This would bring more important to res control with interruptions on the guys who tries to res with the signet (we need at least a signet with a 600 range, otherwise it wouldn't change anything we would still have the stupid cleave on the guy to res/the guy who res). It would also bring more importance to the healers roles, and the key point of pvp is the collaboration, get rid of this kitten duelist meta.
    • Reducing the number of Objectives AND/OR increasing the number of players per team. But why? Well simple, if you have 3 objectives with a 5 players format, you can't prevent strategies where the duelists are the key points. Let say we only have 2 points, when you split you would have way more often 2v2s and 3v3s than 1v1s, and if at the same time dying is a problem, and you don't have a heal, you have at least a support on a roaming group. If the maps are well designs, you will encourage different play style, what kind of support can or cannot be played for one objective, as well as the other classes.

    Of course the signet is on a long term a cheap solution for the target allie problem, but at least it brings back some pvp spirit on a short term and it's an easy thing to implement.

    In 7 years, they proposed nothing to change a bit how bad the things were going for PvP. For me it's intellectual laziness. You cannot release a living world episode every 3 months with new skills/mounts/maps and so on and at the same time being unable to release a beta mode on an existing map just to take the temperature with the pvp players and see if it is going the right direction.
    What's going on at Anet? Should I do it myself? As a computer scientist, it's disgraceful that some of the functionalities I mentioned in my previous post for the queues are not implemented yet even though they are definitely no technical challenges, and solve problems really seen as freaking annoying for players who like both pvp and pve. You guys at Anet probably do not play PvP otherwise you would be aware of the queueing problem.

    Guild Wars is my childhood, seeing it die because of bad choices is hard to see. If PvE is the flesh of a game, never forget that the PvP is its backbone. Good PvP wouldn't make the game way more popular, but every player, pvp and pve acknowledge of the quality of a PvP mode. In guildwars 1 a lot of PvE players would do pvp always for the challenge, it makes a game deeper, do not let gw2 stay a caricature of its name.

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Falan.1839 said:
    Imagine still complaining about conquest after 7 years.

    Lol no I enjoyed circlequest before HoT and with the old trait system it wasn't bad even with teef (my first toon with my account name is a teef). But yes after 7 years its old.

    Good troll attempt tho. Needs more flair

  • Koen.1327Koen.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    so these titles are out already? i've seen the titles a couple times already
    i already collected the chest from last season, does consume last season's title works for it as well?

  • Gamble.4580Gamble.4580 Member ✭✭✭

    I don’t like them apart from king.

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