Can we talk about Rune of Earth and why it’s so bad?

JusticeRetroHunter.7684 · June 30, 2019

I actually really like the change in mechanic... it’s unique in that it’s the only thing that increases incoming healing.

However it’s only...5%. Why is it so low?

Rune of sanctuary does the same thing, except it’s 20%.

Can we increase the percentage so that it can be competitive with sanctuary at least?

praqtos.9035 · June 30, 2019

No. Besides that there is a lot of runes that never used and most likely will never be

Koen.1327 · June 30, 2019

rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Lilyanna.9361 · June 30, 2019

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Rune choices? Diverse? Where? People still run the same set of runes once earth got nerfed. More than half of the runes are garbage, and the rest are barely functional because of the sole fact they fill in a particular role where the class can't cover it themselves.

The only runes that are decent:
Strength
Hoelbrak
Traveler
Scholar
Scavenger
Monk
Balthazar
Leadership

Ah man, such diversity when you break the classes down further between power, condi, and support/tank.

Dirame.8521 · June 30, 2019

@Lilyanna.9361 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Rune choices? Diverse? Where? People still run the same set of runes once earth got nerfed. More than half of the runes are garbage, and the rest are barely functional because of the sole fact they fill in a particular role where the class can't cover it themselves.

The only runes that are decent:
Strength
Hoelbrak
Traveler
Scholar
Scavenger
Monk
Balthazar
Leadership

Ah man, such diversity when you break the classes down further between power, condi, and support/tank.

Rune choice depends on the spec. Some specs use the more niche runes to pull off some interesting builds. Don't speak in such general terms.

JusticeRetroHunter.7684 · June 30, 2019

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

mortrialus.3062 · June 30, 2019

Rune of Earth is bad because like one balance patch ago it had to be nerfed because it was approaching 100% usage on all builds.

DoomNexus.5324 · July 1, 2019

@Lilyanna.9361 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Rune choices? Diverse? Where? People still run the same set of runes once earth got nerfed. More than half of the runes are garbage, and the rest are barely functional because of the sole fact they fill in a particular role where the class can't cover it themselves.

The only runes that are decent:
Strength
Hoelbrak
Traveler
Scholar
Scavenger
Monk
Balthazar
Leadership

Ah man, such diversity when you break the classes down further between power, condi, and support/tank.

Let's just ignore Eagle, Infiltration, Lynx, Flock, Nightmare, Brawler, Sanctuary ofc, .. just to name a few of the top of my head, depending on your class and build ofc but I guess that's obvious.
I guess most Runes are just not utilizes because they aren't used in any current meta build online so ppl don't look into them. I for example use Vampirism atm and it works very well with my current build.

Koen.1327 · July 1, 2019

@Lilyanna.9361 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Rune choices? Diverse? Where? People still run the same set of runes once earth got nerfed. More than half of the runes are garbage, and the rest are barely functional because of the sole fact they fill in a particular role where the class can't cover it themselves.

The only runes that are decent:
Strength
Hoelbrak
Traveler
Scholar
Scavenger
Monk
Balthazar
Leadership

Ah man, such diversity when you break the classes down further between power, condi, and support/tank.

ye, first for sustain sidenoders the rune of choice was earth and now you have multiple choices, seems more diverse to me
btw there are more decent rune choices not to forget that hoelbrak and scavenger are total trash

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

praqtos.9035 · July 1, 2019

@Koen.1327 said:

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

A comment of someone who never played before rune was nerfed

Koen.1327 · July 1, 2019

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

A comment of someone who never played before rune was nerfed

could you elaborate? i never played before what was nerfed?
not sure if you quoted the right part or even person but what you quoted is 100% correct

Crab Fear.1624 · July 1, 2019

@Koen.1327 said:

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

A comment of someone who never played before rune was nerfed

could you elaborate? i never played before what was nerfed?
not sure if you quoted the right part or even person but what you quoted is 100% correct

you got magnetic aura and protection for 4 secs after being struck on 60 sec cd

Koen.1327 · July 1, 2019

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

A comment of someone who never played before rune was nerfed

could you elaborate? i never played before what was nerfed?
not sure if you quoted the right part or even person but what you quoted is 100% correct

you got magnetic aura and protection for 4 secs after being struck on 60 sec cd

ye but i was all i was saying is that rune of sanctuary doesn't work with healing signet or rugged growth passive healing
sanctuary was never competitive with earth and not because earth just had magnetic aura on it

Megametzler.5729 · July 1, 2019

It also doesn't work with regeneration. Sanctuary doesn't work with lots of passive healing effects.

Earth is also a rather boring rune, but... well. Wouldn't mind it being rebuffed in some way.

€: Should specify.

praqtos.9035 · July 1, 2019

@Koen.1327 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

A comment of someone who never played before rune was nerfed

could you elaborate? i never played before what was nerfed?
not sure if you quoted the right part or even person but what you quoted is 100% correct

you got magnetic aura and protection for 4 secs after being struck on 60 sec cd

ye but i was all i was saying is that rune of sanctuary doesn't work with healing signet or rugged growth passive healing

Exactly what I quoted, every soulboon/spellbreaker did play rune of earth,even mirage did. Magnetic aura was stupid and sometimes saved ppl who supposed to 100% die and protection duration increase.

Koen.1327 · July 1, 2019

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

A comment of someone who never played before rune was nerfed

could you elaborate? i never played before what was nerfed?
not sure if you quoted the right part or even person but what you quoted is 100% correct

you got magnetic aura and protection for 4 secs after being struck on 60 sec cd

ye but i was all i was saying is that rune of sanctuary doesn't work with healing signet or rugged growth passive healing

Exactly what I quoted, every soulboon/spellbreaker did play rune of earth,even mirage did. Magnetic aura was stupid and sometimes saved ppl who supposed to 100% die and protection duration increase.

right, i know - i said earth was indeed the best for sustain for sidenoders and it shouldn't be buffed
i play this game longer than 6 months not sure why you said i didnt

praqtos.9035 · July 1, 2019

@Koen.1327 said:

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

A comment of someone who never played before rune was nerfed

could you elaborate? i never played before what was nerfed?
not sure if you quoted the right part or even person but what you quoted is 100% correct

you got magnetic aura and protection for 4 secs after being struck on 60 sec cd

ye but i was all i was saying is that rune of sanctuary doesn't work with healing signet or rugged growth passive healing

Exactly what I quoted, every soulboon/spellbreaker did play rune of earth,even mirage did. Magnetic aura was stupid and sometimes saved ppl who supposed to 100% die and protection duration increase.

right, i know - i said earth was indeed the best for sustain for sidenoders and it shouldn't be buffed
i play this game longer than 6 months not sure why you said i didnt

Did I miss read or something? Isnt you said its never been a choice for slb/spb? Because it was

JusticeRetroHunter.7684 · July 1, 2019

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@praqtos.9035 said:

@Koen.1327 said:

@JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Actually it does work with nearly everything. Every source of healing I know of...even lifesteal, will give you 20% of it in barrier.

One can argue that healing is better than barriers... but not by a significant margin...10 or 15% seems okay to me but 5% is just too darn low.

works with direct healing, but not with passive healing like healing signet or rugged growth, therefor it was never a choice for spellbreaker or soulbeast for example.

A comment of someone who never played before rune was nerfed

could you elaborate? i never played before what was nerfed?
not sure if you quoted the right part or even person but what you quoted is 100% correct

you got magnetic aura and protection for 4 secs after being struck on 60 sec cd

ye but i was all i was saying is that rune of sanctuary doesn't work with healing signet or rugged growth passive healing

Exactly what I quoted, every soulboon/spellbreaker did play rune of earth,even mirage did. Magnetic aura was stupid and sometimes saved ppl who supposed to 100% die and protection duration increase.

right, i know - i said earth was indeed the best for sustain for sidenoders and it shouldn't be buffed
i play this game longer than 6 months not sure why you said i didnt

Did I miss read or something? Isnt you said its never been a choice for slb/spb? Because it was

He was talking about sanctuary...

Koen.1327 · July 1, 2019

my bad i meant rune of sanctuary was never a choice for sidenoders because of not working for passive healing
to clarify: rune of earth was overpowered, so i'd favor against buffing it again

praqtos.9035 · July 1, 2019

@Koen.1327 said:
my bad i meant rune of sanctuary was never a choice for sidenoders because of not working for passive healing
to clarify: rune of earth was overpowered, so i'd favor against buffing it again

My bad as well then, I thought that you are talking about earth :<

Stand The Wall.6987 · July 1, 2019

rune of earth was nerfed cuz it somewhat countered pewbeast.

sephiroth.4217 · July 2, 2019

@Lilyanna.9361 said:

@Koen.1327 said:
rune of sanctuary doesnt work with everything
rune of earth was nerfed because it was hands down best rune of personal sustain, now rune choice is more divers so i'd keep it like this

Rune choices? Diverse? Where? People still run the same set of runes once earth got nerfed. More than half of the runes are garbage, and the rest are barely functional because of the sole fact they fill in a particular role where the class can't cover it themselves.

The only runes that are decent:
Strength
Hoelbrak
Traveler
Scholar
Scavenger
Monk
Balthazar
Leadership

Ah man, such diversity when you break the classes down further between power, condi, and support/tank.

Eagle isnt bad either.

Edit: nvm read more posts and its covered.

Can we talk about Rune of Earth and why it’s so bad?

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