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  • Goettel.4389Goettel.4389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'll have some tea with my GW2, to honor him.

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Not just him, Jawgeous too.

    Good. The less toxicity in the community, the better.

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    -Eloc Freidon.5692

  • i can understand where Teapot is coming from with the whole steaming/content creator perspective, it is really frustrating working really hard on content to not really have anyone watch it, i wouldn't say GW2 is going to die because teapot is leaving by any means, but i do think that more people that want to create content will probably leave for the same reason, eventually there wont be many creating content because its not well supported on gw2. i Love the game very much and have had my own struggles with this lately, other games, like Smite, LoL, WoW, there communities really cater to the content creators , Gw2 not so much its a game that is fun to play not really so much fun to watch, i enjoy watching people like Illithex edit but that's mainly because i enjoy watching how much time hes spent editing not really for the game. Really do wish the community supported Content creators more but also understand why we as a community don't. Overall just want to leave this 1 person does'nt make the game content creators don't make the game, the players are what make and keep a game thriving so i think Gw2 is far from dead :)

  • Goettel.4389Goettel.4389 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2019

    @sinsrock.1702 said:
    i can understand where Teapot is coming from with the whole steaming/content creator perspective, it is really frustrating working really hard on content to not really have anyone watch it, i wouldn't say GW2 is going to die because teapot is leaving by any means, but i do think that more people that want to create content will probably leave for the same reason, eventually there wont be many creating content because its not well supported on gw2. i Love the game very much and have had my own struggles with this lately, other games, like Smite, LoL, WoW, there communities really cater to the content creators , Gw2 not so much its a game that is fun to play not really so much fun to watch, i enjoy watching people like Illithex edit but that's mainly because i enjoy watching how much time hes spent editing not really for the game. Really do wish the community supported Content creators more but also understand why we as a community don't. Overall just want to leave this 1 person does'nt make the game content creators don't make the game, the players are what make and keep a game thriving so i think Gw2 is far from dead :)

    To me it really seems like the crowds playing and watching others play aren't the same. A large percentage of the people I know are gamers, and none care about watching streamers game. What little I've watched of Twitch streams, it seems (a lot of) the money is going to the streamers. Which leads me to think the loss of a streamer means nothing in terms of actual revenue for ANet, or even to marketing, to any significance.

    So yeah, this really feels like another in 7 years of doomsday tales. Which are fun too, I suppose.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Why would tea pot continue putting effort into streams etc if he's not to confident about the games future?

  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    Why would tea pot continue putting effort into streams etc if he's not to confident about the games future?

    You're assuming that is his motivation. More likely, he figures he can make more money streaming another game over GW2, since I highly doubt his streaming is pure altruism. And even if I'm correct, that doesn't mean the game is dying, it just means GW2 players aren't watching his stream, or there are insufficient players in comparison to whichever other title he plans to stream.

    In other words, if he can make more money streaming another game, it makes sense for him to switch to that game. None of that means anything with regards to GW2's future.

  • sitarskee.5738sitarskee.5738 Member ✭✭✭

    ANet should watch TeaTime to see what concerns the most dedicated players and do something about it.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:
    I agree with the OP's criticism of the game (i.e., what types of pseudo-content we have been fed lately and how LW seasons aren't ideal, either - see my sig), but the whole "doomsday" attitude is truly getting old. I doubt that's the right way to make the devs listen to their player base, by telling them their game was dead. ;)

    P.S. Never understood the fascination for watching streams, either. The only gaming streams worth watching, IMO, are the ones that live-stream competitive content from tournaments, because e-sports can be exciting to watch.

    Its a form of entertainment, which in it of it self is heavily subjective. I personally dont understand how ppl still bother watching normal tv.

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:
    I agree with the OP's criticism of the game (i.e., what types of pseudo-content we have been fed lately and how LW seasons aren't ideal, either - see my sig), but the whole "doomsday" attitude is truly getting old. I doubt that's the right way to make the devs listen to their player base, by telling them their game was dead. ;)

    P.S. Never understood the fascination for watching streams, either. The only gaming streams worth watching, IMO, are the ones that live-stream competitive content from tournaments, because e-sports can be exciting to watch.

    You usually watch for the streamer, not the game.

    Very passive aggressively chuckling, because I'm totally not mad on the Internet.

  • vyncius.6105vyncius.6105 Member ✭✭✭

    @Maikimaik.1974 said:
    He has an average viewing count of around 300. I'm relatively certain that there are a few more players than that.

    nop, only wp have same or more viewers

  • Maikimaik.1974Maikimaik.1974 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2019

    @Offair.2563 said:

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    Wasn't every other 'major' MMO more popular, save maybe at release?

    Every mmo and its expansions that came out last 10 years has killed gw2. Gw2 should have the record for most killed mmo in history by now.

    I think we have a fundamentally different understanding of what "death" means. Usually death is final. Guild Wars 2 is still going on and yes, even though many people might not believe so, is still going strong.

    Additionaly, Teapot is not going to stop streaming Guild Wars 2 alltogether. He's just shifting his focus on WoW Classic, which is not going to be a "killer" of any game. WoW Classic is going to be quite huge at release, I myself am very excited to play it, but it won't last very long. WoW Classic is a completed game with no planned major updates, which will cause most of it's players to stop playing after a few months. Most people who stop playing Guild Wars 2, retail WoW or any other game to play WoW classic will return those games after a short period of time. If they don't, they would have stopped playing them regardless.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @aspirine.6852 said:
    Hmm it's never a good thing when the most famous streamer of a game quits the game. Does not matter if you watched him or not, or even if you know him in this case.

    Well, of course not, it's one less player worth of revenue.
    It's also never a good thing if you, or that other random player quits a game

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  • rabenpriester.7129rabenpriester.7129 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2019

    Imagine being so short sighted that you think* the biggest streamer quitting the game isn't a problem.

  • Warkind.6745Warkind.6745 Member ✭✭✭

    I think most of the unique content creators for GW2 are gone now. Soon all we'll have are roaming montages.

    All is vain.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2019

    I don’t understand why the viewer count on Twitch is necessarily an Anet problem nor their problem if a streamer decides to take a break. For those disappointed that Teapot is taking a break, do you even know the reasons why?

    Why don’t the existing GW2 players support the other streamers that stream the game? There’s plenty of them. Support them and help them build their channel.

  • ZhouX.8742ZhouX.8742 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2019

    @Goettel.4389 said:

    @sinsrock.1702 said:
    i can understand where Teapot is coming from with the whole steaming/content creator perspective, it is really frustrating working really hard on content to not really have anyone watch it, i wouldn't say GW2 is going to die because teapot is leaving by any means, but i do think that more people that want to create content will probably leave for the same reason, eventually there wont be many creating content because its not well supported on gw2. i Love the game very much and have had my own struggles with this lately, other games, like Smite, LoL, WoW, there communities really cater to the content creators , Gw2 not so much its a game that is fun to play not really so much fun to watch, i enjoy watching people like Illithex edit but that's mainly because i enjoy watching how much time hes spent editing not really for the game. Really do wish the community supported Content creators more but also understand why we as a community don't. Overall just want to leave this 1 person does'nt make the game content creators don't make the game, the players are what make and keep a game thriving so i think Gw2 is far from dead :)

    To me it really seems like the crowds playing and watching others play aren't the same. A large percentage of the people I know are gamers, and none care about watching streamers game. What little I've watched of Twitch streams, it seems (a lot of) the money is going to the streamers. Which leads me to think the loss of a streamer means nothing in terms of actual revenue for ANet, or even to marketing, to any significance.

    So yeah, this really feels like another in 7 years of doomsday tales. Which are fun too, I suppose.

    Twitch and streamers are a game's advertisement. To say it doesn't affect GW2 is pretty much just wrong... In fact Twitch has become one of the biggest methods of game exposure outside of Steam , which , surprise, GW2 is not on.

    These 2 things , with no market-ability through Twitch because streamers don't stream it and Steam exposure absolutely kills the game's new player retention and exposure rates pretty much almost entirely.

    It is one of the reasons why it is dying, because with no player retention and older players dropping off slowly because they get bored or have IRL responsibilities it's just bound to happen quicker than other MMO's who have these methods of exposure available (WoW is a good example, it's Twitch presence is huge even though it is technically dying as well it maintains better strictly because of this).

    GW2 has one of the best combat systems I've been able to play, and has rich content to explore for a new player but if they're not able to see it through streamers or in Steam where most people get their games nowadays, then it's just not able to be viewed TO appreciate.

    Basically Twitch and Steam for MMO's are damage control for mmo's the moment it is released continued exposure is everything.

    This is the reality of game developers nowadays as opposed to 2012 when this was released, so much has changed since then.

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ArmoredVehicle.2849 said:
    it's like they want the game to end rather than see it live.

    Well, as they say, hate is the other side of love, and if a great game can't hold their love, it earns their scorn.

    I'm patiently in the "wait for it to get better again" camp, even if some of the game's problems are terribly embedded.

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  • bbop.9706bbop.9706 Member ✭✭✭

    @rabenpriester.7129 said:
    Imagine being so short sighted that you deny the biggest streamer quitting the game isn't a problem.

    This is so true.. People don't seem to realise the knock on effect of a popular streamer.. with him goes a lot of potential new players and their revenue, not to mention those that follow suit. I'm sure Anet are not best pleased that one of their most effective partners is leaving.

    It is indicative of a dip in popularity due to a lack of content for the more hardcore of gw2 player. Maybe they are a minority, but they keep the game alive for the rest of us filthy casuals by going deeper into the game than people like me will ever have time for.

    I learn a lot through these streamers because when i'm not playing the game i can watch the odd vid here and there and learn something or simply be entertained... Then when my kids are asleep and i have 2-3 hours to play i can do something meaningful rather than spend the hole time flapping about achieving much less.

    Anet need to do something to support the streamers and hardcore community.. more CM's special skins, weapons only available to the dedicated few.. thats all they want.. teapot said it himself.. It would not take much on Anets side and they would be happy, while the rest of us spend 5 months grinding out Aurora (ahem).

  • Euthymias.7984Euthymias.7984 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2019

    I'm sure he'll enjoy WoW classic, and I wish nothing but the best for him.
    As someone who watched his stream regularly, its pretty easy to tell that he was just getting bored of GW2 - even though he admits that the game itself is great and is doing pretty well, he seems to feel alienated and bored regarding the direction the developers (and the community) are going. At the same time, GW2 is so good (at least at its foundation, the world, the combat, and so on) that there's not really anywhere to just "jump to" in order to scratch that itch for hardcore content to tryhard in with the same kind of quality in its gameplay in the MMO Genre. WoW's just (one of) the closest bets.

    I can understand those who say "Why would I watch someone play a game that I could be playing?", For me, sometimes I just dont feel like playing the game but still want to interact with its community in some form or observe how others do things - asking questions in a forum beyond this place and reddit and even getting a wider sense of perspective from such people. Maybe when I do log in next after such sittings, I would feel some inspiration to try something new that I saw someone do on such streams. There were quite a few times where a streamer showed me an answer to a question or problem I proposed while doing their usual stuff or openly discussed such as a topic that actually helped quite a bit in how I (and likely many others) approached things ingame. Teapot was just one of such, especially for raiding in my case.

    Anyway, I dont think the game's dying just because he's leaving, far from it, in fact....but its another (major) content creator leaving for who knows how long. The good thing about GW2 has always been that its easy to just pick up where you left off, so maybe if things change he'll be back to playing for awhile. Still, I always felt that GW2's biggest blindspot is their poor advertisement, and not using people like him and many others to push their game and its content out to the wider populace vs their really weird marketing campaigns that might not totally encapsulate just how wide and varied GW2 can be as a game.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ZhouX.8742 said:

    @Goettel.4389 said:

    @sinsrock.1702 said:
    i can understand where Teapot is coming from with the whole steaming/content creator perspective, it is really frustrating working really hard on content to not really have anyone watch it, i wouldn't say GW2 is going to die because teapot is leaving by any means, but i do think that more people that want to create content will probably leave for the same reason, eventually there wont be many creating content because its not well supported on gw2. i Love the game very much and have had my own struggles with this lately, other games, like Smite, LoL, WoW, there communities really cater to the content creators , Gw2 not so much its a game that is fun to play not really so much fun to watch, i enjoy watching people like Illithex edit but that's mainly because i enjoy watching how much time hes spent editing not really for the game. Really do wish the community supported Content creators more but also understand why we as a community don't. Overall just want to leave this 1 person does'nt make the game content creators don't make the game, the players are what make and keep a game thriving so i think Gw2 is far from dead :)

    To me it really seems like the crowds playing and watching others play aren't the same. A large percentage of the people I know are gamers, and none care about watching streamers game. What little I've watched of Twitch streams, it seems (a lot of) the money is going to the streamers. Which leads me to think the loss of a streamer means nothing in terms of actual revenue for ANet, or even to marketing, to any significance.

    So yeah, this really feels like another in 7 years of doomsday tales. Which are fun too, I suppose.

    Twitch and streamers are a game's advertisement. To say it doesn't affect GW2 is pretty much just wrong... In fact Twitch has become one of the biggest methods of game exposure outside of Steam , which , surprise, GW2 is not on.

    These 2 things , with no market-ability through Twitch because streamers don't stream it and Steam exposure absolutely kills the game's new player retention and exposure rates pretty much almost entirely.

    It is one of the reasons why it is dying, because with no player retention and older players dropping off slowly because they get bored or have IRL responsibilities it's just bound to happen quicker than other MMO's who have these methods of exposure available (WoW is a good example, it's Twitch presence is huge even though it is technically dying as well it maintains better strictly because of this).

    GW2 has one of the best combat systems I've been able to play, and has rich content to explore for a new player but if they're not able to see it through streamers or in Steam where most people get their games nowadays, then it's just not able to be viewed TO appreciate.

    Basically Twitch and Steam for MMO's are damage control for mmo's the moment it is released continued exposure is everything.

    This is the reality of game developers nowadays as opposed to 2012 when this was released, so much has changed since then.

    Then all of the existing players can hop onto Twitch and support any of the other streamers. You’ll then get the viewer count up and the game will be more visible.

  • @ArmoredVehicle.2849 said:
    Never heard of Asmongold, Teapot and all the names that have been mentioned, I don't follow streaming much and none that relates to GW2. Just because a popular streamer is quitting the game doesn't mean everybody else is, there is no rule that states one must like and play GW2 forever, anyone can get bored of the same thing.

    I don't get why you wear your ignorance with pride. You declare that your voice is important because it is unheard, and your point of view matters because you see nothing.

  • @ElvenBlades.8017 said:
    All this doom and gloom...and I've just started playing. :(

    The game is very much alive. Really the only reason i think wow streaming is popular is because it's so time consuming to play that's the only way some people can experience all its content: by watching people who do have that kind of time.

  • Nea.5936Nea.5936 Member
    edited July 19, 2019

    You are our teapot
    Our only teapot
    You make us happy
    When sky's are grey
    You'll never know, dear
    How much we love you
    Please don't take our teapot away

  • IndigoSundown.5419IndigoSundown.5419 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dante.1763 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    Out of curiosity, what kind of viewership numbers was this Teapot person generating?

    The highest number of views on a single video on his twitch stream is 1.5k from what im seeing, and if thats the number of people watching that number is incredibly small.
    He does have 26k followers, but at least from what i can tell, not that many are watching his videos.

    Assuming this poster knows what s/he is talking about...

    @Maikimaik.1974 said:
    He has an average viewing count of around 300.

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  • Chichimec.9364Chichimec.9364 Member ✭✭✭

    @ZhouX.8742 said:
    ...Twitch and streamers are a game's advertisement. To say it doesn't affect GW2 is pretty much just wrong... In fact Twitch has become one of the biggest methods of game exposure outside of Steam...

    yawn - Are we still talking about this? Sigh, it seems that way. Well, the only thing I can add at this point is that people tend to project their own personal experiences as universal truths. Streamers, Twitch, and Steam may be an important part of your world and to people you know but that says nothing about how many other people they are important to.

    Personally, Twitch and Steam had nothing to do with me coming to GW2. I merely did a google search for "Best MMO 2017", looked at a variety of reviews, tried out several likely sounding possibilities, and finally decided on this one. In all the time since then that I've been playing this game I've never heard anyone irl mention Twitch. Ingame, I don't think I've ever heard anyone mention Twitch or Steam either. The only place I've heard any real discussion about Twitch is this thread. All that is just my own personal experience though and it says nothing about how many people Twitch and Steam are important to.

    What would really help this discussion is if someone could give real data about the importance of Twitch and its streamers to the people Anet is trying to reach, rather than just making sweeping, unsupported claims.

    tl:dr - Where's some actual data as opposed to endlessly repeated personal opinions?

  • Okami.7049Okami.7049 Member ✭✭

    Wow so much toxicity. I'm 50/50 on the subject: GW2 was definitely at its prime a couple of years ago and has definitely declined a little as of late, but at the same time I wouldn't say it's 'dead' or 'dying' per-say. Mostly due to lack of meaningful content, poor balance patches and very, VERY limited build options for a lot of classes (mainly looking at you Revenant and Necro). In other words: a lot of people are probably just taking a break until something worthwhile pops up (cough new expansion cough) to draw them back in.

    Now, as for the whole 'streamer' bashing that was going on: you all need to remember that content creators (streamers and YouTubers) are free advertisement. If you don't like watching 'em, that's fine, but these people are what keep games on the radar to begin with. It's also where a lot of people go to check out a game before playing it, to see what it's like first-hand before buying/downloading. Why waste the time/money when in five minutes you can see all you need to see? Or at the very least get a small taste of what to expect. Not to mention, new players can communicate with streamers (especially) directly and get immediate answers to any questions they may have about said game. Because these content creators are free advertisement, they also hold the power to make or break a game when it comes to newer players; ESPECIALLY big names. 300 average viewers, for example, is NOT small by any means. Not a 'big name', those normally have closer to 1k viewers on average, but still an influential size. I streamed for 2 years daily, most I ever saw was 40 viewers. A lot of you are just being spiteful to be spiteful and it's sad. Have some respect, if you think streaming's just a bout sitting in front of a camera, playing games and reading chat you're sorely mistaken.

    That all being said: GW2 is still alive and though not thriving, still kicking. If you love the game, stick with it. It's free, if you're new there's a Quaggan-ton of stuff to do, if you're a veteran take a break. If you want to move on to something else then more power to you and I hope you find your next big passion. That's all there is to it.

  • ZhouX.8742ZhouX.8742 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 20, 2019

    @Chichimec.9364 said:

    @ZhouX.8742 said:
    ...Twitch and streamers are a game's advertisement. To say it doesn't affect GW2 is pretty much just wrong... In fact Twitch has become one of the biggest methods of game exposure outside of Steam...

    yawn - Are we still talking about this? Sigh, it seems that way. Well, the only thing I can add at this point is that people tend to project their own personal experiences as universal truths. Streamers, Twitch, and Steam may be an important part of your world and to people you know but that says nothing about how many other people they are important to.

    Personally, Twitch and Steam had nothing to do with me coming to GW2. I merely did a google search for "Best MMO 2017", looked at a variety of reviews, tried out several likely sounding possibilities, and finally decided on this one. In all the time since then that I've been playing this game I've never heard anyone irl mention Twitch. Ingame, I don't think I've ever heard anyone mention Twitch or Steam either. The only place I've heard any real discussion about Twitch is this thread. All that is just my own personal experience though and it says nothing about how many people Twitch and Steam are important to.

    What would really help this discussion is if someone could give real data about the importance of Twitch and its streamers to the people Anet is trying to reach, rather than just making sweeping, unsupported claims.

    tl:dr - Where's some actual data as opposed to endlessly repeated personal opinions?

    So you're saying you don't think Twitch and Steam are the 2 top platforms for exposure to a game? I would give Youtube a 3rd on that list. You're basically saying this because you, yourself.. One person.. Found this game through a website? I guess I can't argue with that sample size.

    Ironic, you give a sample size of , well, yourself and then you tell me to get data for myself.

    Sure, https://blog.twitch.tv/https-blog-twitch-tv-game-creator-success-on-twitch-hard-numbers-688154815817

    Old marketing dies out and new forms take it's place and in the case of the internet the way a game is marketed evolves, rapidly.

    This is not opinion, it's fact otherwise game companies wouldn't bother putting their games into Steam's platform to begin with or partner streamers or partner youtube personalities to advertise their game and fly people out to test their game , etc.

    You focus too much on people who watch Twitch as people just watching the streamer but forget people are also there to get insight on actual gameplay in real time.

  • sarkysek.1085sarkysek.1085 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 20, 2019

    First Jawgeous and now Teapot as well!? Is this an out-of-season Christmas gift? ^w^

  • Chichimec.9364Chichimec.9364 Member ✭✭✭

    @ZhouX.8742 said:
    So you're saying you don't think Twitch and Steam are the 2 top platforms for exposure to a game? I would give Youtube a 3rd on that list. You're basically saying this because you, yourself.. One person.. Found this game through a website? I guess I can't argue with that sample size.

    Ironic, you give a sample size of , well, yourself and then you tell me to get data for myself.

    Sure, https://blog.twitch.tv/https-blog-twitch-tv-game-creator-success-on-twitch-hard-numbers-688154815817

    Old marketing dies out and new forms take it's place and in the case of the internet the way a game is marketed evolves, rapidly.

    Sorry, apparently I wasn't clear. No, I wasn't saying I don't think they were the the top 2 platforms for game exposure. What I was trying to say was that they don't have a significant impact in my world but that says nothing about their impact on other people. Rather than projecting from my own experience or listening to others project from theirs, I was asking if there was real data. You provided some and I appreciate that. It does leave me with another question. Do we have verifying data from sources other than Twitch itself?

    Let me clarify that I am not challenging you to "prove your point". I'm asking if there is real data rather than just personal opinons. That question applies to anyone making assertions on this topic.

  • Chichimec.9364Chichimec.9364 Member ✭✭✭

    Data like this though I know nothing about the academic publishing this paper.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329813250_The_impacts_of_live_streaming_and_Twitchtv_on_the_video_game_industry

  • Safandula.8723Safandula.8723 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It's not about 1 streamer with 500 viewers leaving the game, that will ruin the game. Teapot in his strim was talking about his reasons, and I agree with him.
    Gw2 is great game with very very kitten development. Now anet only cares about gemsale, but new content or/and balance has way less priority. 2h of new gameplay every 3-4 months, 3-4 raid bosses every 10 months fractal every half a year, meaningless balance patches every 3 months and no new expansion for at least next 18 months? No way, it seriously burned me out.
    This development is seriously hurting dedicated players, and I'm not gonna be treated like this.
    Sadly there are no more games with this fantastic combat system...

    make prepardness baseline plz

  • HardRider.2980HardRider.2980 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lumpy Forehead.2193 said:
    meh, we won't miss him

    Who's "We" exactly.

    A City of Heroes never die... A City of Villains will never surrender... Neither City will be forgotten.

  • Nea.5936Nea.5936 Member

    I watch these streams and for me its also the reason that sometimes I not feel like playing the game myself but I just visit the community I know and have some chats and listen to the latest gossip around. Its like every gamemode got its small community within the gw2 community. People who are not connected to one of these might not understand it. Sometimes you might want to explore something new watching the streams which you did not know before and it gives you suddenly new options to play gw2 or makes you grow into a better player yourself. Most streams are chit chat about the game, skills, meta, gamemode, personal chatting, exchange of experience, a place like every other get together.

    teapot i often watch as he is the one charismatic british guy, the streams often feel like sitting in a bar with your best friends talking about the world and such. I hope he always stays healthy and everything he has on his plans for his future will work out to be success.

    teapot do us a favor and never change who you are.

  • Goettel.4389Goettel.4389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Twitch appeals to young gamers. GW2 doesn't.
    Nothing to see here.

  • Tukaram.8256Tukaram.8256 Member ✭✭

    I have never understood why anyone would watch someone else play a game (other than tips for where to find X). So I certainly never heard of anyone the OP talked about streaming.

    I play to bash monsters. I am having fun and the servers seem pretty full. No worries, mate :)

  • Okami.7049Okami.7049 Member ✭✭

    "Why watch someone play a game when you can play it yourself?" - Simple: some people prefer television, others prefer content creators. Watching any streamer is also about the STREAMER and their community, not the game itself. It's like watching any sport: why bother when you can do it yourself? Plus, if you're having a burnout it's still an option to support the game and the community as a whole. I've met many amazing people from around the world through stream chats and through streaming, there's far more to it than 'just watching someone play a game'. Gotta open your minds peeps and look at the bigger picture.

  • SkyShroud.2865SkyShroud.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    What you talking about?
    Gw2 is already in decline for years.
    teapot finally joined the people that quit before him. That is all there is to it.

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  • Noxxi.5947Noxxi.5947 Member ✭✭
    edited July 20, 2019

    Hai Teapot's chat

  • sitarskee.5738sitarskee.5738 Member ✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @sitarskee.5738 said:
    ANet should watch TeaTime to see what concerns the most dedicated players and do something about it.

    That's a fallacy if I've ever heard one. Being a streamer doesn't make you a dedicated player, nor does it make you a player that speaks with authority on what concerns the majority of the player base.

    First thing, quote me on where I said being a streamer makes you a dedicated player.
    Second thing, quote me on where I said being a streamer makes you a player who speaks with authority.
    Third thing, TeaTime is not just about Teapot, it's about other players who have played this game from the beginning (some of them at pro level) and have done probably everything that could have been done in this game. Those players put out content online and indirectly help GW2 community grow - that's where I implied that they would see what concerns the most dedicated players. They actually talk about GW2, patch notes etc. But yeah, those who buy more mount skins are considered as the most dedicated in this community I guess?

    I wonder what is your concern then if there is any. Not enough mount skins, maybe?

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    Where are people getting the hard data that supports massively declining playerbase? I've seen no numbers other than the infograph last released.

    Other than the "usual" gw2eff data that actually show a massvely declining playerbase we don't have anything else.
    It's still better data than "I've seen players with low AP around"

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