JayAction.9056 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 How do you beat a class that has higher sustain and higher damage than yours in a PVE environment while also being better equipped for PVP?Is this what we call the illusion of competition?Pun intended ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multicolorhipster.9751 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I find the best way to fight CI Mirage right now is to start playing Firebrand. Every other side-noder besides Holo has been nerfed and CI Mirage is a pretty hard matchup for Holo(Another class with way too high sustain/damage and the only other not nerfed this patch btw.)As a Firebrand, you hardly interact with the enemy Mirage, and the less interaction you have with them, the more fun and rewarding GW2 PvP is. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiipi.6750 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Don't be mad because Mes OUTSKILLED YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten.2617 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Unstoppable Juggernauts complaning against paper CI mesmers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 How do I win?On the backs of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmSole.2098 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Simple you play in NA where 90% are potato's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L A T I O N.8923 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @Multicolorhipster.9751 said:I find the best way to fight CI Mirage right now is to start playing Firebrand. Every other side-noder besides Holo has been nerfed and CI Mirage is a pretty hard matchup for Holo(Another class with way too high sustain/damage and the only other not nerfed this patch btw.)As a Firebrand, you hardly interact with the enemy Mirage, and the less interaction you have with them, the more fun and rewarding GW2 PvP is. =) Dude you a spellbreaker, 60% of the time you immune to powerdamage and on top of that your dodgeroll van hit more then half the skills of hot elite specs, you have amazing damage, above AVG regen and mobilityHow easy you want to have IT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alain.1659 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Ask a guildie to practice with you in arena. That is how I learned most of my builds. And play your opponents builds too. Learn how to play mesmer, watch videos. Then you will learn their weaknesses too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multicolorhipster.9751 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @L A T I O N.8923 said:@Multicolorhipster.9751 said:I find the best way to fight CI Mirage right now is to start playing Firebrand. Every other side-noder besides Holo has been nerfed and CI Mirage is a pretty hard matchup for Holo(Another class with way too high sustain/damage and the only other not nerfed this patch btw.)As a Firebrand, you hardly interact with the enemy Mirage, and the less interaction you have with them, the more fun and rewarding GW2 PvP is. =) Dude you a spellbreaker, 60% of the time you immune to powerdamage and on top of that your dodgeroll van hit more then half the skills of hot elite specs, you have amazing damage, above AVG regen and mobilityHow easy you want to have IT?Tbh I would love to be immune to damage 60% of the time again, but Endure Pain and defense have fallen out of play almost completely in PvP. If you're a WvW player, I feel you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rng.1024 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 You need to make sure you land more hits than they do, the amount equivalent to the difference in profession strength. Interrupting essential skills like their heal will give you a 5 second upper hand regardless of how strong their build is. Set up your bursts. You want every hit of it to land, while denying them the same gratification.Just even it out with skill. Anyone can do it, it just requires practice and conscious thinking. Just be patient and let them panic, doesn't matter how strong their build is if they start to backpedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyKoti.1928 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @Multicolorhipster.9751 said:@L A T I O N.8923 said:@Multicolorhipster.9751 said:I find the best way to fight CI Mirage right now is to start playing Firebrand. Every other side-noder besides Holo has been nerfed and CI Mirage is a pretty hard matchup for Holo(Another class with way too high sustain/damage and the only other not nerfed this patch btw.)As a Firebrand, you hardly interact with the enemy Mirage, and the less interaction you have with them, the more fun and rewarding GW2 PvP is. =) Dude you a spellbreaker, 60% of the time you immune to powerdamage and on top of that your dodgeroll van hit more then half the skills of hot elite specs, you have amazing damage, above AVG regen and mobilityHow easy you want to have IT?Tbh I would love to be immune to damage 60% of the time again, but Endure Pain and defense have fallen out of play almost completely in PvP. If you're a WvW player, I feel you. I would love to be immune to dammage at that percentage of time. Also, same thing for dammage on dodges. But I don't play Berserker stats in PvP, that is suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @everyman.4375 said:Don't be mad because Mes OUTSKILLED YOUCare, you can only write this if you're not a mesmer main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I have not lost a fight solo against Mesmer on my guardian in as far as I remember. I mainly play sage FB though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague Memory.2817 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Actually Mirage CI isn't as bad as people think. I played it before people were even talking about it on the forums. It is primarily a support build. Sure you can kill people (slowly), but staff is mostly a defensive weapon. So basically 1 of you weapon sets is for defense and other for offense, and they don't really work well together imo unless you are a very skilled player. CI in a team fight is great but the immob isn't guaranteed as the daze has to interrupt a skill to work, which really is not as easy as people are making out. You can go a whole 1v1s or 1v2s (not easy on this build) and not get an immob. I stopped using it because the damage isn't good, and you can't take out a tank with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroTheCat.2684 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @L A T I O N.8923 said:@Multicolorhipster.9751 said:I find the best way to fight CI Mirage right now is to start playing Firebrand. Every other side-noder besides Holo has been nerfed and CI Mirage is a pretty hard matchup for Holo(Another class with way too high sustain/damage and the only other not nerfed this patch btw.)As a Firebrand, you hardly interact with the enemy Mirage, and the less interaction you have with them, the more fun and rewarding GW2 PvP is. =) Dude you a spellbreaker, 60% of the time you immune to powerdamage and on top of that your dodgeroll van hit more then half the skills of hot elite specs, you have amazing damage, above AVG regen and mobilityHow easy you want to have IT?How does immunity against Power Damage help against a CI Mirage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycura.1982 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 By winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodwine.6450 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Ok so I’ve been away from the scene for some time, can someone please explain to me what a CI Mirage is and why it’s all over the forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 @"Bloodwine.6450" said:Ok so I’ve been away from the scene for some time, can someone please explain to me what a CI Mirage is and why it’s all over the forums?CI mirage is a condition mirage that uses chaotic interruption and daze mantra to immobilize.It's all over the forums because its what the "knowledgeable community" does every time mesmer has one playable build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenPants.1870 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 What's a CI mirage ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 @"GoldenPants.1870" said:What's a CI mirage ?Here (links are broken in forum so copy paste): https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mirage_-_Chaotic_Condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwolf.9571 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 @Lincolnbeard.1735 said:@everyman.4375 said:Don't be mad because Mes OUTSKILLED YOUCare, you can only write this if you're not a mesmer main.You mean because he face rolled his keyboard FTFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 @rwolf.9571 said:@Lincolnbeard.1735 said:@everyman.4375 said:Don't be mad because Mes OUTSKILLED YOUCare, you can only write this if you're not a mesmer main.You mean because he face rolled his keyboard FTFY.No, I meant what I meant because I made the same post he did and got moderated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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