Most of the ppl think that play as a scourge will make them good but everytime theres a fight only 2-3 scourge are doing a proper job the other are just meat wall (was the same for guard before the staff 111 was nerfed). Also ele can do easily 25-50% more dmg than a scourge but again if they dont know where they need to stay they are completely useless and the same is for hammer rev. If there are 2-3 hammer rev that can coordinate their CoR than you will have 5 ppl down every 5s and that 5 should be scourge, ele or other rev (good thing the next CoR nerf. 3y that were waiting for that in wvw but good spike dmg will still kill ppl like it should do). You can even focus the enemy melee train so they will not push but most of the time theres no coordination so melee train can just continue to push.Problem in wvw are numbers. Do you rly think that a blob with 30 ele spamming their skills is less cancer than 30 scourge? Btw for fps and my eyes scourge are sure totaly kinnen. But yeah, should be so fun die in 0.1s cos you just run in 10 meteor while all the ground is full of chill field, lava font, static, etc...Also so many ppl are still running through all the red circle without using their dodge and they come here and cry cry cry while the only problem is that they are bad players.Balance a bvb is impossible but they should try at least to balance the game for 20v20 or max 30v30 (even if here there will be too many random kitten going here and there) and look how guilds are playing and not just join wvw and follow a blob and than "balance" the game after they got focused but all the enemy blob cos they have the anet tag over their head...