GenerationX.9178

would be good motivator to get better and you will get better in long term for sure, sadly doubt it will happen. most people just tell you to go to 1v1 server.

I dont think guardian and elementalist need those buffs.

Great to see some changes. I think condition and power damage needs to all get toned down. Condition Spam is annoying to deal with and Power one shot isn't fun to deal with. I always get kick out people crying about nerfs because class is there main. If you knew your class well you would acknowledge what is over powered about your class. Most the nerfs always apply because someone is abusing it course if your the abuser you will never notice it unless you knew game. Good example is permeant invulbunrablitly on virutoso. There is lot skill interaction people do not notice unless you play it a while. Here are something things we should really question. Unlockable CC's good example is I am blocking my team mate triggers full counter on warrior close to me I get punished why? Getting pulled out of an evade frame/ block shocking aura or pulls. Boons the amount boons in this game are wild. Celestial is not broke its the combination of power damage with condition damage and boons. Getting hit with conditions now days is like playing power builds they dont really damage over time they just stack 20 confusion and you die casting a condition cleanse skill.

honestly its the match manipulation and low population/alt accounts.

After attempting to play the scepter agian. I think, for 2023 weapons just way to slow over all over and just under preforms because skills cant be excuted. Auto attacks are pretty good in animation art and idea. How ever the scepter 2,3 felll extremly bad with the amout of mobility in pvp/wvw. Possible Fix Scepter 1 make the stacks apply per target hit idk 3-5 people (stack building for 2,3 more manageable) Scepter 2 is aoe appliction to the target. Scepter 3 -1 energy on offensive tether.

I understand how it should work but its not fleunt. to short ranged, the 3 skill takes way to much build up. the 2 cancels or gets block blinded. It just feels really underpowered

Great post, I think for pvp/wvw the dodges shouldnt do damage would be start to making vindicator more fluent. Just having normal dodge animation with trait buffs mabye add back the chill on Vassals of the Empier dodge.

Here's how I think the vindicator dodge should be from playing vindicator myself and my experience with it. I would also make it regular dodge because amount times it glitchs and its actaully really hard to see. I'd say theres lot classes that evade lot but they dont have damage vindicator has on dodge is pretty crazy. Forenunner of Death- keep damage buff and take the damage off of it. Vassals of the Empire- keep buff to boons, prot and take the damage of it. Saint of Zu Heltzer- keep it the same.

As long time vindi player. I could see the nerf to the auto attack chain. I dont see why gs 4 block followed by true stike got hit so hard...its really akward skill in pvp/wvw was easy to counter. I cant speak for pve. If you want to balance rev anet should look into the salvation trait line because it is what really busts lot rev builds. Whole time ive played vindi the dodge skills so clunky and glitchs lot for me personally. Stuck in animation while people still attack me. I think dodge would be better off looking like a normal dodge, not just for vindi but people fighting vindi. Also to people that are commenting on why pvers should not have word, this rev form for everyone not just pve or wvw/pvp. Lot players pve/pvp/wvw

great! vets have something to spend currency on, and stand out without everyone having for now

what does applying chill to thief do other then effect 6,7,8,9,0? does 1,2,3,4,5 not get effeceted like other classes? If so thats busted.

the counter can be a 1 shot if you dont pay attention to the stacks

I dont mind the damage, the supperspeed+barriar it gains from damage is a problem. There's lot meme builds doubt it will get fixed because this game is made for new players that can press 2 buttons with no knowledge of the game and win. If you dont like game just take break or quit because nothings changing lol

I dont know if youve watched some the top pvp streams that people look up to. they call players bad, call people monkeys. pvp its toxic I just play without chat. block the player on pm if they want to be a kitten. pvp so small you get matched with same toxic people. I am not sure reporting even work since most the toxic turds are on a free to play account.

you know whats missing is a foefire collection 1 handed sword skin =3

agree with down state, just remove down state skills at least Id be ok with a slow bleed out. Celestial is boring to fight it long fight I dont want to fight and most the celestial players will chance you to end the earth to get a 1v1 from my experiance haha. Long fight doesnt make fighting fun because you are probably then going to get outnumbered then your not having fun lol

I know but you dont get buffs to everything. boondruation, healing, toughness,power it makes a huge difference

with full cele and fury and might you smack people still. you have 50% critical doesnt even include traits / skills not included. Its really strong.

agree with boons, but problem be easier to remove cele or nerf it then mess with all classes. the necro trait does need looking into, it gives way to much toughness passively lol

Problem is celestial does to much, you get all the pros no cons. I rather fight a player that can either condtion,power or is support. Not all of the above...If you decied to spec more tanky you should lose something. Balance to me. @Sahne.6950 I know the difference in stats but somehow people still are able to burst on cele willbender for example can hit for 15k whirling. Revanant, Ranger, Necromancer ect still hits high for a celestial build.

@RazieL.5684 Problem I is cele hits like zerker and condition because the stats are to strong.

@RazieL.5684 we dont all roam or small scale thief....stealth is abused one 1 class. thief. also youd be suprised how easy it is to shut down a power build. you litrally need weakness protection and some food. which is pretty easy to do. also if you know whats happening you can dodge.

Celestial gear in wvw. It was removed from pvp and needs to be done to wvw. Its ruining roaming even more and even small scale fights. Celestial fights last for ever and if they are running a support well see you next match up. If you take burst or condition builds to counter it gets shut down because agian they have more sustian. I dont enjoy being pressured to play celestial because its (meta) and easy to play. I am pretty sure new players try wvw run into celestial cant obtian it yet because they are new and are overhelmed and dont try wvw agian. I am not the best player in the game but I can fight a decently vs celestial build but in experianced players hands different story. Normally I try +1 or more a celestial build then they get mad dm me about how bad I am and they were 1v3ing LOL. I am not sure why id willing want to 1v1 celestial build. It hard to kill celestial builds why do you think so many people play them. At some points me and my roamer friends or small groups have had enough fighting and most them leave. I tend to still roam around, run into those builds and try to not fight and since I am only content they chase me down even though I dont even want to fight them. I dont exactly know what do about it, but its really frustrating. This I dont think is such a problem for zerg groups, but small scale and roaming its terrible. I fail to unstand one thing from the game, you have amazing skill animations and design why wouldnt you promote small scale battles where you can see whats happening and admire the awesome battle. Rather then oh dodge all red circles. Probably wont get heard and all celestial players will tell me to just play celestial but worth try. /end rant

yes good player knowning how to play the game! wow! exp shouldnt mean anything!

thanks for opening a feed back thread for the stealth nerfs. lets keep all stupid stuff on other classes but vindi is the offender of it all. might well just roll back vindi to 1 good dodge at this point. .5sec......wtf 2sec for wvw and pvp would been nerf enough. tree song more energy cost and icd increase.... about only 2 things id complain about. Reaver's Rage please make instant =3