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I got my ruthless legend title playing one shot mesmer. A title that i dont deserve. I'll always be greatful for this build =)

Holo. Its the most fun out of the three.

Awesome. Keep it up. Looking forward to see how high of a rank you can get with this.

Coz with power builds u can fight back, with condi thief guess what ? nooooo (2- dodge-2-dodge....and repeat maybe a steal if u want to think ur perfect)2-3 first sec, ur health bar is almost gone :'( And we're talking about condi thief not ALL the condi builds. ;) A fresh power build engaging you has the same CD resource advantage. You can 'fight back' against them just as much. Which is...not much, but still. But if you'd like to keep things to thief - cool. If a fresh thief engages you and you have nothing left, you die anyway, and likely faster than a condi setup will take to murder you. because powerburst. really u miss the point there. ok, we gonna speak just about the thief as u want. A thief power build (sword), hit u with the 2 +3 and go back to his previous place. so u have just this 1 or 2 hits if he use the 3. (ur health bar don't move after) A thief condi build HIT u with 2 as the power build (not the same power we agree) dodge, another dodge (maybe a 3) and 2 again..... so he hit you and left you with a ton of cond.......ohh boy i don't even want to explain after this.....make ur idea. :/ If u can't see the différence, i can't help. So what are you doing when that thief is using #2 and dodging to use impaling. You are able to dodge and block and move as well. You are not a training golem.Right? Its very funny how many players let me use sword 2, back n forth, through a wall, until they are dead. Cover the sword 2 return spots, kite onto and off no port spots. Whatever you do, dont be a training golem ?

When did condi dd get nerfed recently? IIRC The recent balance patch didn't touch condi dd.

Holo shockwave range nerf is a pretty solid nerf. The 20% dmg reduc doesn't effect dps that much but it's still something. Plus rifle holo has very little cleanse.

How is elixer holo immune to condi? The only cleansing in this build is Healing turret, prismatic converter and rune of leadership.

In general when I look for a duo partner I prefer something that can handle the classes / specs that I don't deal too well with.For example, as a condi mirage you may struggle with thieves so a holo would be a good partner since it can deal with them for you. Don't condi thieves counter both mirage and holo though?

Very cool. It'll be interesting watching your progress. Curious OP, in your opinion, is the mirage version of this build better or worse than the version you're playing now?

Good patch but they forgot to buff holo oof

Good thread

Obviously playing each build is the best way to learn, but something that is also helpful is to read through these various pvp class/build guides to get a basic understanding of how the meta works: https://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

Right. I switch between both builds using the rifle turret when the other team is more tanky.

Using the metabattle rifle elixer holo build, i took someones suggestion to add more Burst Damage: Swap out elixer s for rifle turret and take static discharge. Also, take protection injection. I like it a lot. I'm wondering if there are any more viable ways to add even more burst damage to the build by changing the rune or amulet? Or is leadership/demolishers as good as it (viably) gets?

In comparison to other classes: I think holographic shockwave is on too low of a cd. I also think elixer U gives too many seconds of quickness and stability. Edit: perhaps a fair nerf would be to decrease the cooldown on elixer u but also decrease the quickness and stab time.

Played holo for a week to learn it. Now i just harrass them with condi thief and they're far from OP in my games =)

Never seen someone hack before, but tonight i did. This guy didn't even try to hide it. On kylo, he would teleport from mid to our home node over n over. Decapping/capping. Then he would vanish on the node, like stealth, but u couldn't hit/reveal him but he would still keep the node contested. Anyone seen this before? Also, this is the first time i actually went to report someone and noticed there is no "cheating" option so i selected "scamming" (closest option lol). The character played like a bot too. When you could actually hit him, hed barely do anything back. Like his hacks had cooldowns.

How do u not get hit by holo 3 tho. U have to avoid both hits.

I change my mind. Holo is broken. I just needed some sleep and then to play it again ?

Forget about this thread lol. I give up. I don't see what all the hype about holo is. Its easy to see their attacks and easy to counter IMO. Now that ive played it plenty, i know its cooldowns and telegraphs. Ill end it there.

Which 1v1 match ups does rifle elixer holo have the advantage and disadvantage in?

Doing everything thats listed on meta battle. Its got some combos listed which i use, but what to do after that ? Also struggling against targets with access to lots of stability

Pretty decent knowledge. Been playing actively for like a year and a half. Usually place in plat. Got a ruthless legend title, but i was cheesing with one shot mirage when it was good, so take that with a grain of salt. I can play rev, thief, mesmer. Learning holo now. I feel like im lacking the ability to keep up pressure without using elixer U for quickness. Is prime light beam or elixer x better? Are there any good "how to play holosmith in sPvP guides".

What are some general spvp tips that aren't so obvious to someone whose new to playing holosmith (elixer rifle) in spvp?

What trais/ultilities does one swap to become (rifle turret holo) instead of the listed metabattles (elixer rifle holo)? Drop elixer s for rifle turret. Take protection injection. Then you have some optional variations.Mortar kit and resistance rune (optional seeker rune)Prime light beam and leadership Vent exhaust vs the 3x heat bar trait. Your goal is push as much damage as possible out without becoming too glassy to survive. What about taking static discharge?