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Thank you for your explanation. It is sad that the AP system is such a mess. I think ANET can and should do better communicating. If I read what you wrote from a dev, I would have probably just accepted it. Regardless, I am no longer worrying about this.

Sigh... it's like I am talking to a child who refuses to look at the bigger picture. That's fine. You guys are only reinforcing my decision to not spend a dime more on this game. Exactly. I am literally running out of things to do and AP hunting became my thing. People attacking me for doing something I personally enjoy is just asinine. Unfortunately, A lot of people has this mentality "it doesn't bother me so it's not an issue so ANET should just ignore it completely" for FUN maybe? I am sure ANET can do it but they've been silent and ignoring this topic. To me, it is them ignoring the bigger picture because people can be turned off in any game where an individual can't even strive to be the top. It's like playing a racing game competitively and professionally; Only the 10 year old veterans can use the shortcuts and special power ups provided compared to a brand new player is stuck with a junk car and everybody telling the new player to DEAL WITH IT!

Maybe ANET should just remove it all together then? Why even bother have it in the game if it completely pointless as many people argue... There are others that care about AP as a goal, purpose, and an achievement! There are legit changes that will "fix" this issue. ANET just doesn't see this as a priority whereas I do. Example is just to have it merge with a the daily or another separate category where there is a max cap from retired achievement points. It is a simple yet elegant solution honestly.

I am suggesting a change and asking for ANET to communicate and look at it. You're saying "It doesn't bother me, so it should just be left alone indefinitely" You and I are not the same.

The fact you don't care about AP doesn't mean it should be ignored... that is such a selfish way of thinking....

The title says it all. In this game, if you don't know already, many things you do earn you Achievement Points (AP). Way before many of us joined the game, there are AP that is unobtainable now due to them being retired or no longer in the game at all. A player who has played since the beginning will always at an advantage simply he or she played more or the right time. There is no chance for new players to achieve the same level of AP for a majority of players. I believe this should be looked at and ANET should equalize AP so everyone has the MAX AP cap. Currently the gap between a 10 year veteran and a brand new player is at least ~ 3000 AP. I am basing this on what I can currently earn via gw2effciency.com compared to the highest AP person in guild. I do not believe this is equitable and it's like everyone starting a foot race at different points. Some people will never reach the finish line due to this discrepancy. Don't trick players into thinking they can compete with veterans when in reality there is literally nothing they can do to be in the same boat AP wise. ANET, please look into this in the near future or communicate with us at the very least. Until then, I will speak with my wallet and refuse to buy gems via cash. I don't see a reason to spend real life money in a system that is rigged for people who simply started before many players and myself joined GW2. Thank you for reading my wall of text and I hope this gets addressed sooner rather than later.

Maybe after the big class balance patches this year ANet can look into this more and we will get a proper response. Until then, I will continue to express my opinion/frustration with my wallet. Confuse face me all you guys want but you all know deep down AP inequality is simply bad game design.

At this point, I am way beyond the 125 lost AP. I am now fighting a bigger battle... AP equality. I am going to keep repeating it but I adamantly believe that day 1 players and 10 year veterans should have the same max AP possible. When will we see the AP system get treated with the love and care it dearly deserves? 😞 ArenaNet, please update the AP system and make it a system you can boast about instead of this gacha-esque system.

Me too. This is the bridge I'm willing to die on. Four and a half years was a good run I guess. Anet, please listen to your customer's concerns. This is not how you keep players for years to come.

This whole experience coming onto this forum to voice my concern about AP equality has been enlightening. I called someone the "D*****' word in one of my posts then I edit it out to "silly" after I realize it wasn't a classy thing to do. After talking to one of my guild mates, I was ready to move on and ignore the issue but then I saw the red banner. The post with a lot of my collective thoughts was removed because I was rude to said person. I take my back what I said in the now deleted post, maybe there are other games on the horizon that I should look at because clearly voicing my frustration on YOUR platform has to be done like I'm talking to a five year old. I really want GW2 to be successful and play it for years to come but stuff like this really grinds my gear. So please, Anet, can we please get any type of response from your decision to remove the Tutorial Mastery achievements?

Definitely the minority. I believe we have a legit concerns but most are just dismissive for all the reasons that have been said already. And yea... let's not talk about that... I have bad habit of buying extra things like "Character slots", "bag slots", "equipment templates" to save for a "rainy day" lol. Used up so many gems because I always try to buy things when they're on sale. I do hope we just don't get ignored because we are the minority. It's just a bad precedent to set and a bit stressful to play the guessing game on what could be next on the chopping block. New players and 10 year veterans should have the same max AP cap to make it equitable for all. Super high AP is only achieved right now if you played for a long time or played at the right time. Last year I got COVID-19 and was knocked out for like a few months and couldn't play at all so I missed out on some quality playtime during the summer.

What about people that didn't have years and just started the game maybe a few months ago? Your situation is not the same as everybody else. This is 100% Anet's fault. Players shouldn't be blamed for completing these achievements at their own leisure because the majority of us thought they would stay forever.

Maybe they'll randomly put them back and hope no one notices lol

I just want equity in the AP system so it means something. My motivation to grind AP has come to a halt. Why chase points if Anet is going to just randomly remove them without notice? AP hunting was my true end game but now I kind of just do dailies and log off to watch a movie. 😞

Thank you for this clear explanation. I wish people would stop deflecting or playing "What about -isms?" Many people already brought up excellent points. It just seems the people that are white knighting Anet dont want to show some empathy towards others point of view and just blame it on them because they were "lazy" 😞 Yes. Exactly this. I want to enjoy the game and do whatever feels fun. I know many people that hardcore "grind" something at the beginning end up quitting the game quickly. I enjoy doing things passively as I play and Anet should respect that (especially since this game is centered around the 'casual' experience) and not just suddenly remove a good chunk of AP points with decent rewards without any notification. This needs to stop happening. In my opinion, a sign of a bad game is where you need to constantly remove old content and replace it with new content. Anet is going have to rebuild that trust with me because I am not spending another dollar until a developer addresses this or revert the changes if possible. Why would anyone care about the "AP race" if more people know it is rigged from the very start? There are legitimate logical solutions proposed by others and it should be higher on their to-do-list since it is such a integral part of the game. This conversation should go beyond the 125 lost AP at this point...