Blood.7254

What's the matter, dragon helmet skin not enough for you?

Yeah, it was a wild shot in the dark that theory 😆

I was thinking along the same lines. However, I was more of a doomer lol. Arenanet is not profitable apparently. Which is absolutely crazy to think about. At least to an outsider like me. Their financial reports show GW2 is currently in a solid place when compared to the past 8-9 years. Meaning the overall income has been about the average, with a smaller studio since the 2019 layoffs. We know that since covid GW2 has had a steady income of new players and Arenanet actually said their playerbase increased by a lot at some point during/after EoD. During this shareholder meeting the CEO starts explaining how you know "we've reshuffled some studios in the US and now we have one big one. And it's to increase competitiveness, so even though this one big studio is not profitable it IS making us competitive in the western market which is great. And Arenanet is like a family business and the totally right people are in charge." Which CEO actually thinks like this? This is absurd from a business perspective. Am I wrong on this? I am honestly open to be explained I am wrong, I've no business experience personally. If your western division has been operating at a deficit for over a decade then something is terribly wrong. What if (let me put my doomer glasses on) the CEO did this premature GW3 "announcement" intentionally as a way to bury Arenanet. Knowing that players who subscribe to sunk-cost mentality will flee GW2 and tank revenue even more - to a point where NCSoft will just "have to cut their losses" and close Arenanet. Maybe they just want to get rid of it? These are just random ramblings of a degenerate mind. Bear in mind I am wearing 20 tinfoil hats rights now.

The reactions here honestly made me chuckle. GW3 isn't real. GW3 can't hurt you. He didn’t say it's being made. Just greenlit. They said they are only still considering if they're going to make GW3. NCSoft shareholder meeting was a Russian psy op. "Arenanet has a meaningful IP called 'Guild Wars', and after Guild Wars 2, they are currently working on Guild Wars 3." "“NC West has recently been concentrating on developing Guild Wars 3 by integrating several affiliated studios,” he said. You don't shuffle around studios for a "maybe" project. Also, Arenanet has already confirmed they are working on a known IP fantasy mmorpg. And people still refuse to connect the dots lol. I give up.

That's a brilliant piece of information. I did not know that. So a lot of those millions in demand are pretty much fake somehow... I'll have a look at this on the Bltc website when I get home.

"Yes, mystic coin supply hasn't changed that much on TP lately. Demand definitely has. " This wasn't me talking about the expac launches. But the last growth spurt of MC prices. Eod launch and Soto launch are kind of comparable. "February 2022 on EoD launch we had 63,000 supply, 12,950,000 demand but the cost of MC was 1.8g" "August 2023 SOTO is released, along with the Wizard's Vault. At launch we had 76,500 in supply, 9,770,000 in demand and MCs were 1.6g on the TP. " "February/March 2023 demand started going up again, and it shot up by about 7,000,000. Why? Well because Secrets of the Obscure was announced. " Even if supply dropped by half, the difference doesn't come anywhere near the increase in demand.

Great job with the breakdown. I'll add some of my thoughts. Yes, mystic coin supply hasn't changed that much on TP lately. Demand definitely has. Game did not compensate for this change in any way whatsoever so the price is high. But when did this all start, also when did the latest price growth start? We all want to know what drove this increase in demand. Did it it begin during the EOD days? February 28th 2023 is when "What Lies Beneath" was released and it marked a huge spike in MC demand. Let's have a quick look back at the complete history of MCs on the TP and try to decipher what drives the market. EARLY GAME AND FIRST BIG SPIKE AROUND 2015/2016 HEART OF THORNS LAUNCH Mystic coins were a cheap material pre Heart of Thorns Expansion. In fact bar two price spikes at 15 silver and 10 silver, mystic coin retained it's price at around 1,5 silver or 2 silver for the most part. Other than gen 1 legendaries, the mystic coins were not really being sunk into anything except some exotic weapons with nice skins (feel free to correct me I did not play from launch). With the release of HoT in November 2015 we got our elite spec weapon collections that used Mystic Weapons as their base (30 MCs each), first gen2 legendary weapons (each needing 500 MCs, in contrast gen 1 needed only 123 MCs) and we could start our Envoy armor journey in the raids (just the Spirit Vale at the time). From there, mystic coins went from cca 10 silver to 75 silver in a span of 7 months. A massive 7.5x growth in price by June 2016. We went from 200,000 supply & 55,000 demand to 26,000 supply & 102,000 demand. 77% drop in supply, 200% jump in demand and 750% jump in price. 2016 AND 2017 LWS3 UP TO PATH OF FIRE LAUNCH With gen 2 legendaries basically coming out every 2 months and the Envoy armor on the horizon the demand for mystic coins was rapidly rising. In May 2017 legendary Envoy armor (300 MCs per weight class) is finally released with the LWS3 Episode 5 Flashpoint. In the following months we see a steady rise in MC price as players finish farming their Legendary Insights, our first legendary trinket Aurora (500 MCs) is also released in July 2017 with One Path Ends, and by Path of Fire Launch in September 2017 MCs are now as follows: 18,500 supply, 130,000 demand, 1.5g per MC. To compare this to where we started, that's a 90% drop in supply, 236% jump in demand and 1500% jump in price. LATE 2017, 2018, 2019. PATH OF FIRE LAUNCH AND LWS4 With the release of Path of Fire, we see a sudden drop in Mystic coin prices. No new legendaries and a ton of new content keeping players involved with the story and Elona has made people postpone their legendary pursuits. In just a month since PoF launch we have MCs drop to 90 silver on the TP. Supply is at 40,000 and demand is at 105,000. That's to be expected, with everyone playing the expansion that didn't release any new legendaries. But, players are now finished with their first playthroughs and are going back to their legendary crafting goals. Maybe they're finishing their Envoy armors, leftover Gen 2 weapons, or Aurora. MC price is very quickly continuing to creep back up, and continues to grow in the following months. New legendary weapons are being released every few months (Claw of Khan Ur, Verdarach, Xiuquatl, Pharus). February 2019 rolls in and we get slapped with the massive layoffs at Arenanet. 143 people lose their jobs and game's playerbase is in a state of panic. Next few months we get no content, just balance patches and world polish. And then we hit a minor MC spike again due to May patch. On May 14th Exordium is released followed by Vision (our 2nd lege trinket) on May 28th 2019. Mystic Coins go from 49,500 supply, 144,000 demand and 1.29g price to 19,900 supply, 145,000 demand and 1.63g price by the end of July. Not a huges pike but still noticeable. The price starts dropping back down after that. At this pooint in time less people are playing regularly due to uncertainty surrounding the game, and those that do play hesitate to commit to long term goals. This also means the studio is having it's worst financial year since GW2 launch, according to NCSoft's financial reports. Even with the release of our third lege trinket (coalescence) in June 2019, and legendary runes and sigils in July 2019, mystic coin prices are dropping. 2019 CONTINUED INTO EARLY 2021, ICEBROOD SAGA We are now in September 2019 and Icebrood Saga starts. Playerbase is still shook, and even if people are playing they are not spending the same amounts of money on the gemstore and are not really committing to long term goals. Theose that are still around are mostly waiting to see what's going to happen with the game. This also reflects onto quarterly earnings. There are no new legendaries in the game. In February 2020, we're now at 45,000 supply, 115,000 demand and 1.25g per MC. First few episodes of IBS are looking really good and promising so some players are coming back. Our 4th and 5th legendary trinkets are released on March 17th 2020 - Conflux and Transcendence. Right around this time we are going to witness the biggest spike in the history of Mystic Coins, and it will be brought on by multiple factors. As mentioned two new trinkets are added, this allows people to finish their full legendary trinket collection and probably motivates them further to get the sense of completion. But the bigger impact is sensed due to the long awaited new expansion announcement. End of Dragons is finally announced and players are coming back to the game, long term goals that have been put aside are reignited again and people start feeling some passion towards this game again. They finally feel the game is sticking around and it's worth investing into it. Little did we know DRMs are coming lol. Anyway, right around this time we start seeing some anomalous behaviour on the TP. Enter TP barons and item dupers. Cheap GW2 keys (possibly stolen) were massively acquired by some guilds/players and this started off the abuse of the daily log-in system and the 20 MCs you could get from them by simply logging in. Along with item/ and or gold duping this allowed for some guilds to manipulate the MC prices by buying up a ton of Mystic Coins from the market and then nuking the tradepost with 50,000 sell offers at super high prices. After they initially drained the market of the supply in April 2020 we went from 26,000 supply, 147,000 demand and 1.58g per MC to 78,200 supply, 378,000 demand and 4.11g per MC overnight. They hit the game at the right time as enthusiasm just started coming back, and players had 2 new trinkets to craft at the time as well, legendary armory was announced. The price then rapidly dropped to 1.6g per MC and TP barons probably realized they should play it a bit smarter so the prices started creeping steadily back up until May of 2021. Cassiano was banned after accidentally showing his guild bank on his stream. Along with his 2 guildies they were just a few dupers and TP barons, but it was enough to send shock-waves through the market. This was May 2021. MC supply was 27,700, demand broke the staggering 1,000,000 and the MC price crept up to 2.6g per MC. I am sure a lot of the dupers were now being extra careful as Anet was aware of the issue, and most of them were involved into real money trade anyway. So they didn't want to mess up their income foolishly. Makes you wonder, even with all the supposed returning players and all the "renewed enthusiasm" for the game, how come the financial reports show almost no growth when compared to the previous three quarters? And yet the demand for mystic coins has skyrocketed, probably due to Legendary Armory release in July. In little over a year supply went down by 40%, demand went up by 870%, and prices went up by 208%. How long were these guys influencing the market anyway, how long did they fill it with sell orders? Are they still doing it? For the first time the demand of mystic coins was now rising to unheard of levels. END OF DRAGONS & SECRETS OF THE OBSCURE 2022-2023 My theory is that right around this time a lot of players realized having alt accounts is the best "gold per hour" system in the game (due to coverage of the whole TP baron debacle). I think loads of players started buying up cheap accounts just for daily login system. This along with the new expansion on the horizon skewed the "active player reports" a bit. In 2022 Arenanet exec (can't remember which one) said the game more than doubled their playerbase since 2019. How much of this is "organic" growth and how much of those are players with a metric ton of alt accounts is hard to tell. Especially since that exec said they consider a player "active" if they log in daily into a map with their character. However, financial reports do show an increase in earnings in 2021 and definitely in 2022. End of Dragons released on 28th February 2022. While End of Dragons did not have the financial spike that PoF had, it held the increased income longer. Both expacs come to around €80 mil income in 5 months around launch. With EoD we had a HUGE dump of new legendaries. Not only 16 new weapons, but all of them in 7 variants. But for the first time in Guild Wars' 2 history, despite the insane amount of new legendaries being dumped all at the same time into the game, the cost of mystic coins started going down... Perhaps because new legendaries only needed 123 MCs instead of 500? February 2022 on EoD launch we had 63,000 supply, 12,950,000 demand but the cost of MC was 1.8g. And it went down, and down, until it hit it's lowest point since June 2016. In September 2022, we had 131,000 in supply, 2,848,000 demand and MCs were selling for a mere 71 silver. Lower demand for sure as the insane 12 mil demand was due to new legendary weapons in February. It stabilized around here for a while, and then in February/March 2023 demand started going up again, and it shot up by about 7,000,000. Why? Well because Secrets of the Obscure was announced. The current spike that we're experiencing is crossed over with the one happening since March 2023. Is it only due to the Wizard's Vault or is WV only a little blip in the overall picture? Let's continue. August 2023 SOTO is released, along with the Wizard's Vault. At launch we had 76,500 in supply, 9,770,000 in demand and MCs were 1.6g on the TP. Due to Wizard's Vault, people who are not into legendary crafting quickly dump 37,000 MCs onto the market and crash the price to 1.2g per MC. This drop is however temporary as demand is still super high. People are holding onto MCs or have buy orders due to the legendary relic and the three weight-classes of the new legendary armor that are yet to be released. Even with the next Wizard's Vault reset you can't see almost any meaningful drops on the TP anymore. After that WV reset the price increase continues at a steeper angle. We are waiting for the big Lege dump to bring the price down. At the moment we are looking at 43,000 supply, 10,100,000 demand and 2.33g per MC. We are not that far off to where we were just before EoD launch and the last big lege dump. The differences here that I can spot is that prior to the End of Dragons launch prices were going down while demand kept going up and it happened in a span of 2 months pretty much. Legendary weapons were revealed in December 2021, and EoD launched in February 2022. The massive demand spike only happened just prior to the EoD launch. This time around, we knew about the armour and the relic a long time in advance, and the market is stalled because of it. However, we have to factor in the introduction of legendary starter kits here as well. Plenty of 1st time legendary users around now using up mystic coins, or buying them. In short, I think the current situation is definitely going to calm down once the legendary armor gets released. Perhaps after the February patch as well to some degree after the relic gets released. It's only then that we'll be able to truly see the effect of WV and how much MCs the TP barons were pumping onto the market via alt accounts. This however won't account for the item dupers. And there is no doubt in my mind they're still around and Anet has no way of finding them. I'll go and shut up now. Hope someone finds this useful or interesting at least.

No, you're a dopamine junkie.

Are you talking about the old daily system or the Wizard's Vault? Because Wizard's Vault will only give you dailies/weeklies/specials from the content that you own. Heart of Thorns only? No worries, all your WV achievements are core and Maguma based.

Just did the explaining earlier in another post. Fastfarming community has you covered on the salvaging and identifying part. https://fast.farming-community.eu/salvaging/unid-gear

On 10/16/2023 at 3:02 PM, Iyam.1497 said: Thanks a lot for the replies! I have 2 level 80 char before, they're still here. I am just cleaning inventory but I am afraid that if I sell the items I might be selling something that will be useful along the way. Will try to google to get up to speed on the game. Really been a while. Missed playing the game tho so LFG! When it comes to not knowing which item is important, you probably don't have anything super important. A general rule is to always deposit all materials into your material storage. In your inventory you can click on a button at top right that will offer to deposit all materials. Your material storage only has 250 slots per material available. When it's full, the mat you're trying to deposit will remain in your inventory. You can expand mat storage through gemstore upgrades. You can sell excess materials on the trading post (always place a sell offer, never insta sell) or put in in your bank. You will accumulate salvagable stuff in your inventory. GW2 gear has tiers of rarity. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Item#Rarity You can safely salvage most items, the exotic ones sometimes are worth salvaging with a black lion salvage kit. For more salvaging info check below. https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/wirpkl/a_quick_easy_guide_to_unidentified_gear_and/ Infinite salvage kits are handy from gemstore. If you can't get them just yet, you an use the ones sold by NPC vendors. If you have items that say they are valuable only as part of the collection it's worth checking on wiki to see if they can be salvaged. Generally speaking they will be. Green and yellow sigils are usually worthless. Most of the times you get more money for selling them to the NPC vendor than on the trading post. Which brings me to the NPC vendors. Most if not all will have a tab on the left enabling you to sell them your items. ONLY sell them your junk items, and do it via the "sell junk" button. Don't sell them anything else unless weapon sigils I mentioned above. For all other items, if you are not sure, right click the item, click "sell on trading post" and before placing it on the tradepost see what the price of it is. If the price is high, ofc there's value. Items that are soulbound to your character cannot be used by other characters. You soulbound items that you equip if they are anything under ascended in rarity/quality. You might think you don't need that lvl 80 helm with viper stats because you have changed your character to a power build that uses berserker stats... well... keep the viper helm too. Maybe you'll want to have a condi build again on that character soon, and it's not very cheap to get some of these stats. You can check how to get equipment by stats and their rarity on gw2wiki. An example is below for vipers. At the bottom of that page you can see links for vipers exotic weapons, armor, trinkets etc. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Viper's Also, whenever you want to check what that specific item in your inventory is for you can directly check on wiki by using ingame chat. Type in "/wiki" (without brackets) followed by space, than hold SHIFT on your keyboard and click the left mouse button on the item in your inventory. This will "ping" the item into chat, only when you now hot enter you will not post this message in chat, instead you will be taken to this item's wiki page that will tell you if it's used for something important. So an example is "/wiki [Banana]" which opens up the following link in your browser https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Banana Welcome back and I hope this was concise enough.

I mean... I'm disappointed, again, but I'll still play my warrior. Maybe that's the problem. No matter how much they make it annoying for us, the class is still going to "feel" fun. It's bones are just good. Maybe we have to jump through hoops, and maybe we can't be the best at anything, but warrior is still the third or fourth most played class in the game according to GW2efficiency. The nerfs tho have become a literal meme now. The most niche of patches are now a doorway to throw another warrior nerf in.

And how many condi zerkers you saw pull those numbers in raids? Zero. This spec is not viable to pull those numbers in real fights. IRL the spec was in an ok place.

Another patch, another horrible day for warrior enjoyers 😞 I was so happy playing condi zerker for a few weeks...

God bless you