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How to Nerf Spear/Spb Without Killing it. (Pvp/wvw)
cryorion.9532 replied to Yerlock.4678's topic in Warrior
Thanks. That's pretty hilarious. -
How to Nerf Spear/Spb Without Killing it. (Pvp/wvw)
cryorion.9532 replied to Yerlock.4678's topic in Warrior
Oh, so now it's 18k. Please post screenshot showing this damage, I would like to see it. Spear is fine, you just got skill checked, that's all. -
How to Nerf Spear/Spb Without Killing it. (Pvp/wvw)
cryorion.9532 replied to Yerlock.4678's topic in Warrior
Why didn't you avoid it? Telegraph too hard to see? Were you out of defenses? Did you tank it to assert the dominance? -
So for years nothing and now it is suddenly broken. OK. This profession simply can't have anything that disrupts comfort zone of people who complain about it... 🤡 Hopefully Anet won't listen and buffs warriors instead in other areas where it lacks 🙂
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Now, it's just dps increase. Not bad for adept trait, but nothing special. Peak Performance suffers from some physical skills being clunky and all of them not doing enough damage themselves, especially in PvP/WvW where damage on these skills is practically nonexistent. Better solution would be imo to improve Kick and Throw Bolas to be more useful. Imagine if Kick had polished animation, short daze instead of knockback so it can also do damage in competetive modes (probably reduce ammo to 2 to compensate). Now with such reworked utility skill, you could use the active Peak Performance more practically in a combo. In PvE, if Kick is fast enough and has nice damage, it could be used in more dps builds for better PP active buff uptime. Just an idea. If you want Kick to retain knockback for e.g. roleplay purposes, then well... rip. To this day, I find it stupid that CC skills can't do damage in PvP/WvW but I guess this isn't going to change anytime soon... Throw Bolas could get pull flip skill on it – when you land it on enemy, you can pull them to you. That would be pretty good. More pulls in WvW, yay!
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Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
And? The skill has insane telegraph telling you to dodge. Is the complaint that you are forced to dodge or else you die (if you are very squishy)? Oh no? -
Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
Outplay potential like you can just run away from it? That is very non-braindead... Do you think Spearmarshal is easy to avoid (evade/block/etc)? -
Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
Geeez, dude... you need one dodge to evade Spearmarshal (after you get hit with first 1-2 hits as that starts fast) and one dodge to avoid F1. And this is just 2 dodges and nothing else. You don't need 100 dodges. But if you only have 2 dodges and nothing else, then maybe the issue isn't really spear. -
Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
You type this as if target only had 1 dodge and nothing more. It is pretty obvious to expect Spearmarshal from spear warrior. You either tank it on glassy build and cry about it or you use evades to avoid warrior ranged spear burst just rifle burst. And it's not like targeted enemy can't fight back when warrior is on spear, right? Warrior is now just harder to kite, which is good. I love how it often catches those annoying thieves/guardians/mesmer who try to run away after things aren't going as planned. Burn your evades, get Spearmarshaled. If you don't react to the most telegraphed spear skill, get Spearmarshaled. Simple. Lvl3 Harrier Toss is more problematic but only in more chaotic situations with a lot players (however, in such situations, most things are hard to see). In duels, you can easily see it, but reacting to it might be pretty tight. I wouldn't be surprised if Anet adjusted Harrier's Toss, but if they nerf Spearmarshal's Support, that would only show that they listen to crybabies who can't dodge insanely telegraphed skill. Which is likely to happen. -
Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
"That means spearwarrior can do something while spearmarshal do it's thing" Like what, bursting a target that can't dodge the spearmarshal? Too bad for the target, I guess? If the target properly dodges the skill then warrior can do what? Burst target in evade frame? Time their next big hitter properly to hit the target right as they leave evade frame? What is the issue? While being unkillable monster? The skill is great for forcing enemy to use evade/defense which I think is completely fine, especially when it is properly telegraphed. -
Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
Lol, if spearmarshal is a problematic because it does 11k damage then anet should also nerf Volley, Killshot, Gunflame which all of them are way less telegraphed, can do over 10k damage on squishies and are also easy to land. In case of Gunflame and Killshot, the damage is also instant, so those should be even worse. But guess what, people don't use rifle as much as spear (I wonder why /s) so you can't really see rifle warriors spamming their Volley, KS, GF as much as spear skills. If every spear warrior swapped to rifle right now, I guarantee people would lose their kitten the same way. I think spear only needs aoe indicator for Harrier's Toss, like filling up circle to indicate the hit incoming and/or reduce its lvl3 damage by xy% I don't understand, why people think SS is problematic, when it takes 1 dodge to avoid 5-6 hits of 7... I don't have any issue avoiding it in WvW, like at all... I think the reason why it will be nerfed won't be because the skill is very strong but more like people who can't dodge it properly cry the loudest. The skill is insanely telegraphed... kittening hell. -
Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
Exactly. Even in WvW, Spearmarshal's Support can be easily avoided. It is very well telegraphed. People just like to tank it on glassy builds and then reeee about it being too strong... 🛌 -
Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
Is cele harb or willbender problematic in PvP? I assume this is for PvP, because in WvW, the balance is quite different and proposed nerfs wouldn't make any sense in this game mode. -
Solution to nerf the Warrs PvP build without deleting it
cryorion.9532 replied to Myror.7521's topic in Warrior
Geez, you really want those warrior nerfs huh... What about start with full counter cooldown and let's see how that alone will go... -
Changed my mind. Wild throw's basically unusuable now
cryorion.9532 replied to Azure The Heartless.3261's topic in Warrior
If it turns out that these builds are overperforming, then nerfs will be justified. But whether it is spear damage, traits or even attribute combinations that deserve to be nerfed, time will tell. You see, if you nerf spear damage because damage is the issue, you can't expect Anet to buff other spear skills because how would that solve anything? Bring down power level just to increase it elsewhere? I wonder why tf Anet added heretic amulet in PvP tbh. It feels like it was added specifically for warrior staff builds. Does this mean warrior can't have high damaging skills because they can just run staff, spam heals and be unkillable?