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Extremely underwhelming. But keep the obligatory cope posts coming... I just hope they dont screw up Necro weapons

It just blows the mind that since Path of Fire we have been extremely consistent in the weapons we wanted. The community asked for Longbow/shortbow for years now. Before EoD or SotO where even a concept. There was also a push for greatsword over hammer... I know typing in these forums is pointless but please read this and move away from pistol... Just do it

Who supported pistol? Has anyone actually given feeback that pistol is desired? Its not too late to change or fix this!!

I never asked for 42k. Hyperbole and lying is not doing anything for our argument. I said give it alac if its only doing 34k like it is now. If you going to comment at least get kind of close to addressing this issue... Full dps scourge doing 38k dps is not op... If it is what is your stance on qFirebrand/cFirebrand/Virt/3 specs of Mech/any other 40k dps spec..... Braindead

Lying is not a good way to start a post. Scourge does not do 1.2k barrier a second in FULL VIper gear anymore.. It hasnt in 2 years. In full ascended viper gear right now on live tooltip on barriers are 1.1k and 500! What alternate reality are we living in? These tiny barriers also have a 10s and 8s cooldown respectively! Using the 10s shroud barrier also is a dps loss and consumes lifeforce, WHICH you dont have alot of if your in actual blood support spec. If you instead blood support with soul reaping instead of curses your dps goes down to like 5k... Scourge might have that much SELF barrier if you count in pressing shroud 5 off cd. There are full ranged specs or "simple" rotation specs like scourge doing 38k+ dps while also giving barrier and boons. You do not address this at all. Dont just drop lies and then peace out without touching on a single issue. You dont address any of the 21 classes doing 38k+ dps while giving arguably more valuable support than scourge does if its full dps viper gear. BTW throwing in cVirt and not mentioning 80% uptime on distortion, perma fury and a braindead rotation points out your not putting any thought into this at all. Cmech gives barrier/might/vuln/fury has a braindead signet rotation doing 39k. There are 6-7 specs like this.. Your argument is either ignorant or straight trolling if there is a single class doing what you are afraid scourge will do. Much less 6 specs doing it already..

LOL most specs doing 38k plus dps right now bring more support than scourge 1k barrier............ Most bring high might/vuln uptime plus perma fury or alot of self quickness. Firebrand has a stupid simple rotation does 40k dps, perma stab, 5 rounds of aegis, access to 6k and 8k AOE burst heals, and it can provide 12 stacks of might and perma fury..... 1k barrier obviously too much support........ For the last year or 2 now after the gutting scourge barrier in dps build is like 1k every once in a while. What a joke. Without blood scourge is not a real support class unless its stacked 3-5 deep. With blood it does zero damage. Wake up folks. Not sure if people just comment on forums and dont actually play the game or what. Scourge does not provide 4-5k barrier in full viper gear anymore. It cleanses condi's yes but so do have the classes in the game. If you havnt played scourge in group content, especially raids you probably should try it... Rude awakening incoming if you dont get insta kicked.

Alot of clueless comments sadly. Scourge has been gutted across the board since its "OP" phase. Also the game is much different from the time when scourge was overtuned. Back then there was only 1 spec doing 40k dps or higher. So yes when scourge was doing that much damage there were no other classes to compete. IF pure dps scourge was buffed back to 38-40k it would not even make top 5 dps specs and in the case of 38k it would not even make the top 10 in todays power creep. Its difficulty means nothing. Condi mechanist has a faceroll rotation doing 39-40k dps and no one bats an eye. The fact that there are quick/alac classes doing more dps than FULL dps scourge is hilarious and that there are multiple comments defending that shows how poor of a community this game has nurtured. Scourge support is not even possible in its full dps build as well. Taking blood for actual support and rez support drops benchmark from 35k to 20k... LOLLLLL. There is a reason no one takes it anymore unless you plan your group around having multiple scourges, because a single scourge in a group provides no barrier worth mentioning. A 35k dps spec that can has nice condi cleanse... GG Also jesus people talking about harbinger as if dropping to one shot territory nonstop in PVE fights with massive aoe damage constantly like that isnt a problem. Harb is a meme. None of the other 10 specs doing 39k plus have to hamstring themselves just to do damage..... Edit: Looks like I was wrong. If you do less than 38k dps you wouldn't be in the top 21 dps specs not 10...... LOL 3 alac specs and 2 quickness specs doing more dps than full dps scourge. Does scourge need 42k dps no... but can it do 38k? No argument here says why not. Edit:2 I can see we already have some confused people. Sad. If you dont afk in LA or take a break from meta training to do a bit of group content you will quickly see how "in demand" the extremely "OP dps/support" scourge spec is these days...

Spoiler Alert! Condi Scourge and Power Reaper are doing less dps than quickness/alac support dps... Sad day to be necromancers. If scourge is not buffed dps wise up to 40k next patch for pure dps build they need to add alac or something to the spec. As for reaper I really dont know what to do for you poor folks. Some want damage and some want shroud to not get recked by damage. Something needs to change for necromancer. Every other spec in the game is has a spec doing ~40k dps or more.

So we left 21 pages of feedback and out of all of that feedback there wasn't a single thing that the Dev's "promised that they would read" that they thought was good for the game?................ I didnt agree with alot of what was posted for sure but there was feedback on DH, reaper, engineer, scourge, thief.... that were braindead asks that needed to happen. The only change from the original post was some reaper shouts being lower cd... which still didnt solve reaper or necro issues. Why should we bother giving feedback and you promise to read it and yet we dont even see one change from the first iteration? Like I said only good feedback should be accepted but your telling me out of 21 pages of feedback there was nothing?!?! I know for a fact there are 7-8 posts on the abysmal state of berserker in there that hit the nail on the head for you.

This right here. Why is a spec that is only bringing its dps and some vuln/might only able to do a bit of power dps? Why cant it do good Power AND Condi dps? Dont we want Holo to be good?

I did. Read you comments about numbers and supposed huge utility... Apparently you didnt read and comprehend my post..

Its pretty dishonest to throw numbers around like this. One of, if not the best, Holosmith player with perfect boons and scenario hitting a single target dummy barely gets 38k. So to say that someone who masters the classes pushes 40k+ is really terrible. First of all only power holo can get above 35k on a perfected scenario benchmark. Given than both condi and power holo were good specs for 5 years and are now shadows of themselves I would be false advertising the strength of a pure dps class that doesnt do good dps... Before anyone freaks out about ALLLL of the great kit utility engineers bring. Stop. Boons are all that matter in groups for the last 7+ years now as far as aiding a group. Holosmith does not bring any of the important boons to the group under any loadout or kit. It needs to do damage and it doesnt. Now as far as gameplay goes I think Holosmith is one of the best specs in the game. Near perfect. Thats why I advocate for it so much and try to bring it the buffs it needs to get back to its old glory.

Holosmith is not a 'power' spec. That is scrapper. Scrapper can ONLY be power. Over half of Holo traits are condi based. Holosmith only became a pure POWER spec recently because of ANET patches. Condi engineer in general was overnerfed years ago and condi holosmith has never recovered. Power holosmith was terrible too until the last two patches buffed it up to just barely sufficient. The meta for the last 3 months doesnt define Holosmiths 6 years of history........ Condi holosmith is down bad compared to its competition. Power holosmith really isnt shining too bright either.

This is not how it performs in actual fights. Condi Reaper has a 39.5k benchmark.... It doesnt get posted on any meta site because that dps is not actually possible outside of the dummy. Holosmith is not ok, if it was really doing high damage in raids you would see it on any of the leaderboards/meta/snowcrows. Boon support dps classes do more damage than condi holo does.... Holosmith is like weaver/deadeye/dragonhunter/soulbeast/virt ALLL it does is damage and gives none of the main core group dps boons. If it isnt doing the damage that classes like deadeye and weaver are doing then it is failing terribly. In real fights condi holo is doing 34-35k benchmark potential. Which is woefully behind its peers like both weaver specs doing 40-41k, soulbeast at 39k, virt at 38-39k, and meme spec deadeye at around 40k(the 45k benchark is not reasonable just like the benchmark shown in the poor example video you posted is not a true example.) Some classes perform how they bench. Condi holo does not. Another thing you completely ignore is that Mech which can do every role in the game besides quickness boon support does more damage than a pure dps spec holosmith... Figure that one out for us. Mech can heal/boon support/dps.... Please form a complete argument instead of pulling a single benchmark video out of context. If 36k was actually possible in fights Snowcrows would have it up there. You cant just look at it in a vacuum you have to look at what its up against. What are the other pure dps specs doing? Other specs are hurting just like holo, for example dragonhunter and reaper were doing very badly. Both of them are getting back to back buffs to get them up to 38-40k dps. I am pointing out that condi holo even if it could hit its supposed benchmark of 36k is still 10%+ behind with almost no support outside of vuln and a bit of might.

I am just sad that the only pure dps elite spec of engineer (Holosmith) does less damage than quickness support specs and mech... Specifically condi holo.