ventress.4879

Im known for saying things people don't agree with while siding with the developers. Essentially I'm to blame for all the negative changes to the game since I like most if not all the class changes. Even the re-introduction of the second dodge was predicted by me to remove the CC immunity.

Okay? How does un-interesting make it bad? I mean they nerfed Mirage's over and over after PoF to the point where no one even uses it? Does that make it an interesting Class?

Troll as in I was right about Virtuoso DPS all along. Liking or not liking the class mechanics is kind of irrelevant. It's a piercing ranged mage, the closest any other class comes to this is Ranger.

You bait the Mesmer with auto attacks. Charge in and just hit them with 1, they can't tell the difference and will instantly go invulnerable then wait for it to finish before hitting your other skills. They have three types of invulnerability animations you watch for. One is they float which means they can't attack. The other is the shimmer which means they can attack. The last is blades circle them which will turn your attacks into boon.

I heard some of the streamers complain about it but I believe they have no market department since its all handled by the parent company. That why the lead developers and balance team leads end up doing it for them.

Yeah pretty much. I mean Virtuoso has its place and core Mesmer tends to have alot of support elements like using the Inspiration traitline and blade generation to heal other players. Thief, Ranger and Warrior in particular were really bad before this up comming patch so hopefully they have some valued support builds atleast for more casual play.

This is exactly what happened when EoD Elites came out and was the primary complaint about Virtuoso. It probably still is in the open world. They get called selfish DPS so I guess this patch is an attempt at fixing that a little, especially with something like Deadeye.

In terms of Zerg usability most of the time you want lock someone down and blow them up.this tends to be the best thing a Mesmer can do. I feel like Chronomancer will still be better at this due to Gravity Well. Maybe some Greatsword along with Axe? Tag with Greatsword and then swap for the burst on a single target.

I fell like after this update the most likely complaint will be, My X role with X class is not longer the most demanded role. When you get too end game two things happen, one you realise that your favourite class can't do something. Two it excels at a specific game-mode/role. Theif is probably the best example with it only really being used in PvE on a very specific raid bosses. Outside this it is only a PvP class at the highest level. Now I guess you can bring that same class into any game mode / role and not be booted. Or atleast that is what Arena Net is trying to do.

If we start seeing Chronomancer Alacrity take off then I would say it's more likely they will remove Mirage Staff alacrity entirely and return the weapon to a more dps one. There is a bit a gap for a more melee focused Mesmer since Virtuoso can be reflected, some PvE content prefer Mirage but it does tend to be rare.

I left becouse the class I played where getting reworked so now they have reworked Untamed I want to jump back in to try it out.

Pretty much but that is the game we have. It's very casual with the most popular PvP game mode being WvW where you can just join a massive zerg of players and get carried.

The problem was they were always mandatory buffs for benchmarks so if you where playing a Warrior and didn't want to use banners you would be kicked since it would drastically lower the group DPS.

I have been able to read quite a few posts on the topic. The most common complaint is the upcoming lack of class diversity but people rightly point out that if you mean broken builds as class diversity then this patch is a good thing.

Virtuoso especially has been a large part of Mesmer critism lately with its long drawn out invulnerabilities. To be honest playing against a Mesmer while myself knowing it mechanics makes fighting them very easy but the guess the player base as a whole still has an issue. Im all for providing feedback but some people want to jump off a cliff when they see that Mirage second dodge isn't going to come back without a nerf to the CC immunity.

It's only on the forum I would say for the most part it is received quiet well if you go to Reddit.

Again even though I come off as a troll to the entire Mesmer community isn't there still some sense in waiting for the Update to come about before slandering any changes. I have brought this up before but almost any discord I'm on people Hate Mesmer. Most players even the ones playing Mesmer let me know it's OP and generally just play the Meta Builds due to that fact. I have never come across anyone in game besides myself that defend Mesmer and this is comming from Mesmer forum troll.

I mean it is an amazing spec? Probably the single most recommended Mesmer Elite for most game modes except WvW. Even then it is definitely most noob friendly PvP Elite with its many invulnerabilities.

Pretty much, plenty of Guild groups and Zerg leaders where running Chronomancer to port players on engagement so this is not going to be as strong.

Sigh the only reason I use this account is becouse it's not cursed like the other one which seems to be on a watch lists by the Mods. Anyway good luck with shouting on the forums about stuff that will never change.

Wasn't the problem before this discord leak and all pior balance patches is that there was no vision for each class. The discord leaks proved one thing, that Arena Net was actually playing the game and the balance team did have some personal opinions on the balance. I think people have very rosey interpretation of early Guild Wars 2 which was pretty horrible. I mean prior to EoD we had some unkillable PvE builds and Necro dominated most game modes.

Lol, why don't you play another game/class. Waffles tells me that Elementalist is open if you want the OP experience.

Pretty well rounded break down. Most people on this forum won't listen sadly they are stuck in there own world where Mesmer is the only class in the game. The biggest complaint about Mirage is that it always felt like two different classes between PvE and PvP. Now players can finally dip into PvP and not change how they play. On a more positive note seems like every class got some nerfs this patch so some stuff is probably fair in relation to other class nerfs.

@Waffles.5632 I'm not mad or anything so it all good, I agree with you in alot other threads. Im just so delusional about any fix I don't know why any of you even bother trying to argue. Just let them do what they want with Mirage. Its dead and will always be dead. No second dodge will bring it back, the rest of the player base probably want more nerfs so expect that next patch.

Well Chronomancer was once the only class that could provide group Alacrity and decent Quickness so any attempt at re-imagining that Elite will never bring it back to its former glory. Being able to dodge even while stunned or rooted to avoid all the in comming damage will never come back. Atleast I can admit that and not live in the past like you lot are. How many month has this thread been going? Just play another game or OP class untill that is nerfed.