solarisnox.8521

They are not completely different. They are two separate, but related, statements. And no, I am not getting them confused, so let me clarify: in 9+ years of playing gw2, over 13,394 hours of actual game time, at no point in any of those 13,394+ hours has anyone, at any time, in any chat channel, in any game mode, or on any VOIP channel, EVER indicated anything like: "Hey, y'know what would totally make this game awesome??? FISHING!!!". Literally said no one ever. So, maybe someone, somewhere, in china, thought fishing might be a good idea, and I would have missed that, not having access to the chinese servers. But I doubt it. And my statement is reflected in the comments I've seen on the subject since the announcement, both in the forums and on various social media platforms and video streaming sites. So, if you are the person who likes fishing and wanted it in gw2, congratulations, you got your wish. The rest of us would rather they had spent all that time and resources and manhours and creativity to create some actual elite specs that made sense.

This is what I've been saying for years!!! It's so obvious! The devs LOVE Thief, Necro, Engi. Everything else is "eh" and they hate ele and ranger.

they made catalyst so they could recycle the scrapper concept, rather than actually create something original. hammer ele makes about as much sense as dual shield ele. And the jade "gyro" is completely useless. I feel like the whole thing should just be scrapped and something actually new and interesting with a long range weapon be created. This was the item that started putting me over the edge.

personally, I'm of the opinion that catalyst needs to be completely scrapped and an entirely new elite spec developed in it's place, that's how bad it is. This will, unfortunately, never happen. Which is why I'll not be playing this game again. And that sucks.

I very seriously doubt there will be any further expansions, given the way this one is looking.

so I see a comment on "everyone is going to have gliding", in this text, which is fine. WP is the one who actually said that mounts were going to be limited. Maybe he was mistaken, but nothing I see here in this text tells me that all mounts are available. And while I've seen the dev's running around on various mounts during their livestreams, I've also seen the devs having zero cooldowns on all their skills so they can do ridiculous things to show off what the elite spec will never actually be able to do in game. So, while I admit that WP is not the final authority on the subject of mounts, his longstanding relationship with anet certainly affords him some insider information. So, if he misspoke, or if he corrected that statement in a later video that I missed, so be it, I stand corrected, and thankfully so. However, ultimately, the mounts issue was pretty much insignificant to the overall issues I'm seeing with the elite specs, and the expac in general, and was more like an extra final straw, rather than the entire bushel of crappy half assed elite specs, pointless waste of resources on fishing, skiffs, turtle mount, and so on. And yes, in all the time I've played the game, I've never seen or heard anyone say "fishing would really make this game sing". Ever. Now, that being said, I know that anet will create an incredible and innovative spin on fishing. But, it's still fishing. And no one cares. Just like literally no one wanted an ele "scrapper" with a hammer and useless unworkable jade "gyro". But that's just my thoughts. What other "exaggerations and misinformation" were you referring to?

LoL So after accusing me of pulling a "no you", you're going to literally do the same thing you just accused me of doing? LoL, what an interesting and clumsy display of hypocrisy. At no point have expressed "hatred" for anet. I have never indicated that in the 9+ years I've been playing gw2. So do not think that you are in any position to understand me, my thoughts or my motivations. You're not. And again, stop with the passive aggressive gaslighting idiocy. You're embarrassing yourself with your clumsy efforts. I've stated pretty clearly, that I am pissed off about the shoddy and half assed "design" of most of these elite specs, about the ridiculously and totally unwanted addition of Fishing and the pointless waste of resources that went into it that could have far more intelligently been applied to the elite specs, and of the seeming lack of potential interesting content, Based on What I am Observing of what they are showing us. And I'm not the only one, I'm not even in the minority. The overwhelming response in forums and social media is "meh" at best and "total garbage" at worst. Do you not understand how the facts of what a person or a company shows you in the present, predicts the future of what they are Going to show you? No. Of course you don't. You have your opinion based on nothing but your feelzies, and gods forbid anyone should dare have a different opinion than yours, lol. I'm very happy for you that you have warm fuzzy feelings about the impending expansion. I'm not sure how you do that, based on the evidence at hand that they've shown us, but okay Pollyanna, you be you. Unfortunately, the fact that I am so pissed off that I am probably not going to play this game again is only serving to make me even More pissed off because of how very much I have LOVED this game, and the company that created it, the fun times I had, the friends I made, and so on. But no, I don't hate the company, I'm just disappointed with them, and saddened at the loss of my favorite form of relaxation and enjoyment. And I'm concerned that this expansion is almost certainly going to be their last. And again, with the gaslighting: "that ANet is terrible and I hate them hence why positive feedback shouldn't be a thing based on my observation" At what point did I ever suggest that You or anyone else are not allowed to have your fluffy bunny opinion which is based upon zero actual information other than you're own opinion? No, in actual fact I have repeatedly reaffirmed that we, you and I, are clearly in disagreement but are capable, I had thought, of having a rational conversation free of lame and feeble attempts at judging, evaluating, and gaslighting. See, THIS is a "you" problem. YOU try to covertly manipulate and gaslight people by literally spreading actual strawman arguments. LoL, it's hilarious to see it. But clearly you are not capable of having a rational adult conversation with someone with an opposing viewpoint. And looking back over your previous responses, it is evident that you have been covertly trying to guilt me into changing my viewpoint, and insidiously (albeit feebly) trying to gaslight me into accepting your projection of your own actions, your own viewpoint, and your own biases, from the beginning. I would say "nice try" but it was sadly and pathetically obvious, as I called you out on multiple times. have fun with the expac, I hope it lives up to Your expectations. 'ta

exactly my thoughts. cheap, poorly designed elite specs, cutting corners reusing assets like crazy, everything about it seems half assed, and exactly like a desperate cash grab before the ship goes under. Now, whether that's coming from anet, or being pushed by ncsoft, is anyone's guess.

I'm regretting my early hype train purchase and struggling to get a refund, which they are being difficult about, which isn't helping the situation for me.

you're far to gracious with your descriptions, lol

I wish I could be as hopeful as you, lol. I really do, but I could tell right away when they made the "big announcement" and it was FISHING, that this game was going over the edge. And honestly, it makes me sad and angry, or rather even MORE sad and angry, because I know that I'll probably never play this game again. And that sucks.

amp up that viewpoint to super nova level and that's pretty much me. I knew when I saw nearly half a livestream dedicated to "fishing" that I was not going to like what was coming. And now they're refusing to refund my thrice damned purchase of the ridiculously lame alleged "expansion".

thank you. I've been so angry and frustrated with what I've seen from this alleged expac I can't even express it properly. Probably never going to play this game again. And that thought just makes me even more angry.

Hmm... Pointing out specific issues with design or thematic concept is not a "strawman". You may want to look up what that term actually means. In actual fact, you, attempting to gaslight me, are conjuring up strawman arguments, as in "this is a YOU problem". And, while "piggybacking" off someone else's content might be something you would do, (projection), I was merely commenting in response. Unlike you, I have no vested interest in your commentary, or your opinion of the game. I'm not here to kiss kitten and I'm not here to destroy. I'm free to express my own observations and opinions, as are we all. You were entirely free to ignore my comment. You chose not to. so, once again, this looks more like a "you" problem.

you forgot recycled elite specs (ele-scrapper with a jade gyro...don't even get me started). and oh yes...fiiiiiishiiiing. the sad thing is, knowing anet, gw2 fishing will be the most awesome fishing implementation of any game ever, but I don't care. I didn't want fishing. No one wanted fishing. I really wish they'd spent the tens of thousands of man-hours, resources, and creativity they spent on fishing, into creating interesting, original, and not entirely ridiculous nonsensical elite specs, with coordinated thematic designs. But I'm not bitter about.