EpicTurtle.8571

Yes, because the amount of skill and practice that takes (and the number of edits where they don't show you where it didn't work) is totally inline with Hammer Rev pressing 2 on cooldown or Longbow Soulbeast pressing 4 and then 2 on cooldown. Don't waste your time. He's just gonna throw a quote at you and say something vaguely irritating about how Mesmer is 'toxic' then never explain what he means.

It's funny seeing people defending this lunacy that two patches ago assumed every mirage player was a delusional class carried noob.

You need a redo to your same tired argument. If you're dying to phantasms or clones at this point you need to get better. Talking about a classes design =/= talking about which class is OPAnd your perception of Mesmers design is still flawed as usual.

You need a redo to your same tired argument. If you're dying to phantasms or clones at this point you need to get better.

We've gone full circle, how impressive. I agree with the OP, either give it something back or let us slot a utility instead.

Nobody take the bait.

Mildly impressed at this bait though.

So basically nothing of relevance from this xpac or build. Thanks anyway you are rude! and should be ashamed of it I didn't think it was rude. All it did was point out a fact. what fact? telling someone to that you would be interested in sharing a read from them than ridicule them?Are you in it too EpicTurtle?You're trying too hard to be outraged. That article is from 4 years ago the absolute fact is that it has nothing to do with the game anymore. None of its points are or ever were valid.

So basically nothing of relevance from this xpac or build. Thanks anyway you are rude! and should be ashamed of itI didn't think it was rude. All it did was point out a fact.

I like your "Portal is fine now" comment. Maybe come back and explain why no one, including top mesmer players who have previously won MATs in coordinating teams, are running the skill at all anymore if its still so good. I guess you must be 500 IQ higher than the highest IQ mesmers who have ever played and if you picked up the class now you'd be better than the best mesmer players ever were with the best portal plays ever seen since you're so convinced it'd be top tier in your savy hands. You're wasting your breath (or your fingers rather). This one only argues in bad faith.

Many of thief main including mesmer main during Gw2 beta to its early release suggested this to Anet foreseeing thief and mesmer toxicity sabotaging the balance of the game. 6 years later, what have they done to the stability of the game? Sweeping their toxicity throughout the game and wrecking havoc of their toxic influence to the professions including present and new players players Their toxic influence has not only pushed away new and present players alike from playing this game but has left a horrific impact in their experience to tell others including their friends (social media) to stay away from this game. That Toxicity has run rampant throughout the game and is promoted, supported and distributed throughout the game. It has become a norm-throughout the years...... Just because you can't understand and combat stealth doesn't mean the entire class is toxic. Or if I'm missing the point actually say what the toxicity you're referring to is.

Wat? I would add that the reflect on dodge trait needs more c/d as well. But yes, I know, you really, really hate all mesmers because they're the only ones you can't "steamroll": Nice, taking a message out of context i wrote. Mesmers basically butchered my ranked score from plat 2 to almost gold 2. I climbed my way up to plat before the mesmer invasion of PvP ...right when i started seeing 2 mesmers in my enemy teams, i started streak losing towards gold 2. Now i am literally easily killing people in my ranked games because the people i am playing with right now are allot worse then what i was facing in plat 2, except for mesmers, wich keep me contained in gold 2 because they are broken. You basically stated that mesmers needed both nerfs in offense and defence. Yet after you proclaim the nerfs to offense, you automatically state because 'the offensive is nerfed' The defenses shouldnt be touched. I didn't take anything out of context. Quite the opposite considering I linked to the full post. Maybe third time's the charm: Kindly revisit my last post (which you quoted) and read the bold, italicized part as many times as it takes to see that I agreed with a major nerf to defense.You know just aswell as me people are not going to read that entire post. I clarified it for those who are reading this thread. Not the other.This is the only thing you wanted changed about defense: "dodging while CC'd should go. It's not unreasonable for mirages to be forced to spend a stun break here like others." And that doesnt even scratch the surface of how many defensives a mesmer has. It is not enough.I'm so tired of your vague, 'all these defensives' argument. So let's put you in your place. Distortion: 1-4 seconds of invuln on a 42 second cooldown. So much permanent uptimeEvades: two dodges like everyone else and lower vigor uptime. Axe evade puts clones right onto you, just cleave them or dodge the obvious shatter coming at you. Maybe extras from combat utities but that's a double standard considering anyone can pick utilities.Blocks: Maybe 2 of them. Show me a single mesmer that uses OH sword though. And before you ree about target breaks there's only 3, almost no one uses Mirage Advance so basically only 2 usable and there's better options than Mirror Images.And since you're the guy who unironically linked Mass Invisibility and Veil, I assume you can count to 5 and 2 respectively? Or interrupt the giant purple pulsar showing off Mass Invis? Are you going to rail about stealth access on other classes or is just Mesmers paltry access to 15 total seconds of stealth too much for you?And before you start arbitrarily looking up defensive traits to present as 'smoking guns' every class can have defensive traits it's not that special. Seriously stop with the ragefest we get it, you hate Mesmer. The only solid issues I've seen anyone point out is dodge while cc'ed, blinding dissipation spam, and condi output.