The people here using ESO as a reference are completely clueless to what they're saying and should not use it as an example.I've played over 3,000 pvp matches of Thief on Gw2 and I played ESO as both of Magicka Nightblade AND Stamina Nightblade for about a year, allow me to educate you: First of all it takes 0 effort at all to stealth in ESO compared to having at least a minimal setup to do on Gw2 for the most part, stealth also works as an "iframe" on ESO where if theres a hit being thrown at you while you stealth, it counts as "Immune".To the part of "Aoe damage will unstealth nightblade", you are absolutely correct, but at the same time nightblade has about 20 times more ways to avoid taking damage compared to a thief with two or three dodge rolls. You can spamm dodge rolls with are a prolonged iframe into stealth, you can reposition yourself with your shade, you can sprint into dodge roll/s into stealth, there are several different ways to avoid that situation where a shadow arts core thief would have only two dodge rolls. When it comes to Magicka Nightblade the class can perma stealth by simply pressing 1 single button every 3 seconds. "But bla bla bla aoe damage unstealth", k press shade port away and back to perma stealth... ???? Those ESO references are really ridiculous, try to suggest constructive ideas towards reworking stealth in Guild Wars 2 that will not completely gut the classes that need it instead of pulling some pathetic comparasion to other games where you are clearly clueless and have no idea wtf youre talking about. Cheers