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  1. Hi, Regarding FF(Fervent Force) Power Untamed 41k dps: “in this update we're making a slight adjustment to its cooldown reduction in order to bring down the damage output of builds that utilize it.” This is anything but a ‘slight’ change, going from 4s loops to 7s loops, or even 7s loops every other loop with an extra reset from Storm Spirit, will add so much auto filler uptime that Power Untamed is likely to drop to ~34-36k dps. There is a non-grinded, unpublished FS(Ferocious Symbiosis) bench of 35,5k which can definitely be pushed to 36k+ and would likely outperform FF. And for the record, FF is exponentially more interesting than FS, the extra dimension the cd resets bring over a boring 20% modifier is incomparable. This will effectively kill the already abysmal play rate of Power Untamed, since it will go from barely competitive dps with an unforgiving rotation to pDD level of DPS with an unforgiving – and now less enjoyable – rotation. Power Untamed isn’t BiS on any encounter either. Besides the unforgiving rotation, it is reliant on very high melee(!) dps uptime and it isn’t as traditionally bursty like other classes. Considering most old content encounters favor burst and most new encounters favor atleast some ranged dps uptime, Power Untamed is simply nowhere near overperforming. On a sidenote, considering the aforementioned downsides of Untamed I would earlier suggest that Power Untamed needs a small dps buff if it wants to compete with the current, and the projected, status quo. But I digress. I know less about Condi Untamed, but I have been told it would also take a more than substantial hit from this nerf, effectively killing it. This build is similarly fragile to Power Untamed in terms of being able to reach optimal damage output. Condi Untamed is arguably BiS for Q2, maybe great in some lowman content, but as it stands I wouldn’t consider it an outlier – especially not if you consider Ele being fine at 43k considering the burst it has, or Bladesworn being okay at 40k considering the insane burst it has, or idk basically all the other classes that are being pushed to 40k+) To be honest, I suspect this change to be primarily aimed at the damage output of Power Alac Untamed and the effectiveness of Untamed solo builds. To touch on the latter one, realize how broken the interaction of Fortifying Bonds + We Heal as One is: you are effectively sharing boons back and forth with your pet. It shouldn’t be that hard to kill that interaction, solo Untamed builds would take a substantial hit. Fortifying Bonds also plays a role in the damage output of Alacrity Untamed builds, because it gives your pet full boons for free. Still, I suspect you want to hit these builds a bit harder, so reduce the base Alac duration Untamed can give with their spirits, i.e. force Untamed to take an utility skill Spirit to maintain 100% Alac uptime. Being forced to drop Frost trap (~10% dps) – or to take more BD - in conjunction with some kind of nerf to Fortifying Bonds will bring Power Alac Untamed down to the 30k dps region. Another bonus to this approach is that the extra spirit would either give ~60% Prot/Vigor uptime, ~6-7 Might. Don’t mistake the lack of feedback for the Untamed change to people being okay with it. It is a borderline niche class and the suggested change doesn’t really instil hope in people that Untamed is in good hands. At least to me it feels like you are implementing a change with the intent to see what the community can still make of it and then go from there, because you are unsure of the impact yourself. Untamed is a wonderful, relatively unique, specialisation with a high skill ceiling, fast-paced playstyle and tons of flexibility. Please don’t kill it, I have enjoyed it a lot the last 6 months and it’s my biggest surprise of EoD. TL;DR: The proposed Untamed change will most likely nuke every Untamed build back to November 2022 levels of dps with a less enjoyable rotation to boot.
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